DidacticK

@Shad0wPatriot @HiMay8TAte @TheModerateCase Yes, and you believe that anyone who is LDS or Catholic or JW or anything that is different than you are Satan spawn who burn for eternity because we are all stanic demonic cults because only you can be saved because only you know Jesus, and only you get offended by truth claims.

My OP is correct... Mormonn doctrine clearly states that it is the "only true and living church upon the face of the whole earth". This doctrine comes from an 1831 revelation to Joseph Smith (Doctrine and Covenants 1:30), and asserts that their organization holds the exclusive authorized priesthood and full doctrines required for salvation, specifically for this final dispensation... that is literally the doctrine of the Mormon faith and the entire reason it was founded... as the only TRUE faith. Furthermore, we are using two different definitions of heaven. There is a Biblical definition that I ascribe to... and the Mormon one that Mormons ascribe to.

Question for Christians: Are Mormons Christians?

@Shad0wPatriot @HiMay8TAte @TheModerateCase Yes, it is the only true and live church, that does not mean that only those who are members of it are saved. The church on earth does not save Jesus Christ saves. Only true and living = the only one directly established by command of Jesus Christ, and lead by revelation.

@ZoJubal @PoisonedFoon No, we didn't start this, the protestants started murdering us and have been hounding us ever sense. We defend ourselves and invite all to read and pray and come closer to Jesus christ (honestly, whatever that looks like were happy for you), we believe you will be in heaven.

@Didactic_K @PoisonedFoon You're insults don't bother me. I'm merely pointing out the hypocrisy of LDS whining about people criticizing their church when, basically, they started it.

If your idea of promoting your church, is to attack my church, I’m going to assume that your church sucks. Why not talk about the virtues of your beliefs, instead of tearing down what you think are the inconsistencies/untruths of mine? Yours should be able to win out on its own merits, right?

@edlars53 @PoisonedFoon If you are a christian, then you believe in the resurrection of Jesus Christ. No miracle compares to that. If you believe that God is all powerful, then there is no claim made by us that is out of the uestion or ridiculous. Unless you're not a christian.

@Didactic_K @PoisonedFoon Wow are you making giant assumptions. What have you bought into? I can guess but be honest and cough it up.

@Fattreebass @edlars53 @antiantimormon And which standard is that specifically because you once again verify the bible by the bible? This is why atheist make fun of you guys

@edlars53 @Didactic_K @antiantimormon By what standard?

Have you ever paid attention to the symbols and hand gestures of the three figures in this section of Facsimile 2? Why would ancient Egyptians use all these Masonic ritual signs? They must have had a time machine.

@edlars53 @Fattreebass @antiantimormon And i said that feeling accompanies the revelation (spoken word, visitation, thought, vision etc.) All you have is a book and circular logic. We have early christian cemeteries filled with people wearing lds temple garments

@Didactic_K @Fattreebass @antiantimormon Feelings nothing more than feelings. Smith and LDS are giant frauds.

@edlars53 @Fattreebass @antiantimormon And you know the thousands of people healed at the day of Power the thousands of people who saw angels at the dedication of the kirkland temple. The millions of miracles and manifestations and theophaneis experienced by LDS across the globe.

@Combat_History @Primary_Pianist Genesis chapter one detailing the creation is a post moses edition made by someone else. And deuteronomy itself is very possably an insertion by the scribes (lawyers) during the great forsakening. Which would have been when Lehi left jerusalem and the The Book of Mormon started.

@Didactic_K @Primary_Pianist You make no claims, just arbitrary dismissals. Of the things that can be verified, he Bible is perfect. The book of mormon is not. The Bible is inspired by God. The book of mormon may be inspired, but its not by God.

If the Book of Mormon were a fraud… it’s a strange one. Because instead of replacing the Bible, it defends it.

@Combat_History @Primary_Pianist The book of Isaiah was added to by different authors. There's the long ending of Mark. The genesis found in dead seas scrolls is missing over half of modern genesis, and that is not in one chuck either. It's spread throughout the book. Just later insertions, not from Moses.

@Combat_History @Primary_Pianist All the original autographs of the books of the bible are gone. The earliest is a tiny fragment (papyrus 52) dates appox 125 AD. And they are not sure if it is or is not from the gospel of John. There are greek manuscripts that lack certain verses and whole chapters

@Combat_History @Primary_Pianist The bible and The Book of Mormon are both compolations of earlier works. The Bible, though, was compiled by apostate Catholic Priests even as recently as the 1500s, who discarded and suppressed many valuable books. Differnt edits still have different books.

@Combat_History @Primary_Pianist Dude, you said the same thing, just mirrored. The Bible and Book of Morman are both imperfect records written by imperfect men detailing their interactions with divinity, and the hand of divinity in the lives of individuals/peoples/nations. Some of which they did not understand.

@edlars53 @Fattreebass @antiantimormon Satan can not counterfit the Holy Ghost. Revelation is always accompanied by profound peace/comfort (He is called the comforter). Satan and his devils have no peace or comfort to give. And those communications from God always lead to Christ.

@Fattreebass @Didactic_K @antiantimormon "How do YOU test them?" Consistency with biblical teaching. 2 Corinthians 11:13-15 warns us that “such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.

@ZoJubal @PoisonedFoon Do you think telling the truth is an insult? Of the shoe fits, wear it.

@PoisonedFoon And yet your prophet said about my church: "I must join none of them, for they were all wrong;... all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me..."

@edlars53 @PoisonedFoon Dude, if you think that's crazy you haven't read the old testement. What? "Things like that dont happen anymore?" Why? Because you lack faith. If you're not experiencing miracles and manifestations, it's not because God changed. It's because you did.

@PoisonedFoon Smith is a fraud. Or was used by a demon. He certainly dis not produce scripture with sear stones in a that. What crazy.

So the bible is self certifying... conveinient. "Why is the bible true?" "Because it says so, of course!" Ask of God, James 1:5. The only way to have faith is by fruits or revelation. the Bible is of God and will bring good fruits, but protestantism is an apostate group off of another apostate group (the catholics) that's at least 2 steps removed from original christianity if you dont count the all the major shifts inside of early Catholicism.

@PoisonedFoon All scripture God breathed. 2 Tim. 3:16 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,

The NT describes a church completely inconsistant with the fractured manmade protestant hodgepodge. Protestantism is a trauma response to catholism. If you left catholism, it means you agree that catholism apostatized from the truth and lost their authority. A restoration is therefore necessary. If Catholiscism did not Apostize, then you should be a Catholic. If Catholisms did apostasize, then protestantism is still over a thousand years removed from true christianity and trying to recover original christianity without divine guidance (no revelation or prophecy right, can't have it both ways, either there is or is not continueing revelation). What did catholics you who agree are apostates without divine inspiration do that you still tote arround for some reason? (Compile the bible discarding many books for political purposes, write the (Catholic) creeds defining the nature of God through helenistic philosophy, and than posthumously excommunicate the patriscan fathers because they beleived in an embodied God and his seperate embodied son and in apothiosis, all beleifs that that have been restored through Joseph smith.

@PoisonedFoon Think how dumb that sounds. LDS is not the restored church. It is a made up abberation. Not even Christian.

@thepaultheory @PoisonedFoon There is no broader gate than an alter call without a requirement to turn away from sin, or live a life of christan disciplehip and obey Gods commandments, at one of thousands of fractured, often contradictory churches that exist as a trauma response to catholism.

@PoisonedFoon The metaphor still stands. Wide is the path to destruction, but narrow is the path to salvation. Satan's trick is to make you think you're following Christ and doing good works. Problem is he have you the look-alike and you get upset when we point that out

Actually, he built the Church of God by asking people to read and pray to God and get an answer. While other churches were attacking and killing the people who learned the truth from God. There is a reason they kept migrating West: To escape pursecution, by christians murdering them.

@PoisonedFoon He built his religion by attacking all other denominations. You know that though but lack the honesty and integrity to be truthful.

Back and forth and back forth, level 1 grammar stage thinking. Easily disproven assurtion that has no reliance on the history of the bible, where it comes from, how it was compiled, or what it contains. I follow Jesus Christ, the only one who can save. I know because I have personally spoken with him many times, including today. But speaking to a modern-day pharisee is pointless. Have a nice you life, you'll find out in the end, and be happier for it.

@Didactic_K @Primary_Pianist Those same assertions can be made about Christianity, but they'd be false. There is not a single contradiction or falsehood in the Bible. There are many in the book of mormon. You are free to believe what you want, but know you can leave that religion and follow Christ.