Fisherman
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So apparently I’m embroiled in some sort of controversy. Let me set a few things strait:
1. I don’t know Sam Allberry personally. We've met in-person a total of once — back in January while I was in Nashville when I did the Shawn Ryan Podcast, where I ran into and took a picture with Sam. When I saw the news initially about his removal from leadership I took that picture down. I had already started to see people commenting that by keeping it up I was implicating myself in his sin. I do not think they were correct. But ironically, said comments were then replaced with ones telling me that by taking it down… I was hiding something and implicating myself in his sin. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
2. I believe the language in the current public statements to be potentially unhelpfully vague. From my (brief though not uninformed) understanding of the details of the situation, what Sam did that disqualified him from leadership was not due to sexual or even a romantic impropriety, but what could best be described as a sinful emotional attachment. This is not to justify it or say that it wasn't disqualifying (I think it probably was). But the lack of clarity has left room for those who desire to gossip, defame, and sinfully speculate online to run wild — which they have.
3. I am genuinely saddened with the internet’s desire to tear down and jump to harsh judgements regarding another Christian’s failing. When someone falls into sin, those who are spiritually mature should work toward their restoration, approaching them with a spirit of gentleness (Gal. 6:1-2). The motivation for restoration carries spiritual weight. Bringing someone back who has wandered from truth saves their soul from death and covers a multitude of sins (James 5:19–20). This isn’t merely about correcting behaviour, it’s about spiritual rescue. The desire to gossip and breed quarrels, which is so obviously warned against in scripture (Proverbs 17:19; 26:17; 2 Timothy 2:14, 23-24; Titus 3:9-11; James 4:1-2) is, to say the least, lamentable and disappointing to see.
4. Sam Allberry is being labelled as “Side B,” this is genuinely confusing to me. To quote Sam in his own words: “Same sex attraction is not a good thing. It is... a consequence of the fall. ...This kind of attraction is not something God designed for us, and it contradicts his design” (Is God Anti Gay, 63). Sam has expressed in multiple places throughout his written work and public talks that he holds to the biblical position of marriage, that homosexual relationships are sinful, and that identifying as a “gay Christian” is incompatible with scripture. To be clear, I don't agree with Sam on all the nuances of how he discusses the issue. But I can only conclude that this attempt to make him into an LBGT advocate comes from either shear ignorance of his public work or some sort of internet-level frothing of the mouth to jump on whoever “we don’t like this week.”
But exhort one another every day, as long as it is called “today,” that none of you may be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin. - Heb 3:13.
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@DataRepublican @mattvanswol I too use GotQuestions often. Very helpful to me.
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If you haven't already, I recommend reading the Gospel of John, 1 chapter a day. As in verse by verse, and don't let unresolved questions in your mind go unanswered (GotQuestions.org was a big help for me). This will give you a strong foundation and confidence in what Christianity actually teaches, and why people go astray.
To answer your question: When I first became a Christian, I was troubled because the Great Commission was so clear and yet preaching Jesus openly was a good way to lose my career and everything I held dear.
IMO a lot of Christians are in that situation, and these churches you mention are their way of making peace with what they know is mandated by Jesus while still reaping the benefits of institutional approval. You are doing the right thing in holding them accountable - what you are doing is a practice mandated by Corinthians.
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I could use some help...
I came back to church after years away and I'm still figuring a lot of it out... but what is going on with the "Christian Leftists"????
These are people who know Scripture better than I do... but the SAME PEOPLE turn around and tell me a kid in elementary school can know 100% that they were born in the wrong body.
That puberty blockers are healthcare.
That get flustered and extremely angry at any reasonable question I throw at them about it.
That actually to question any of it is a form of sin in someway?
These people will literally say the church is too White.
As if whiteness itself is a big problem or a sin and that we need to repent of being white, and fix it in a room full of people who showed up to worship Jesus.
Can someone explain this to me?
How on earth does this make any sense from someone who is supposed to be a Christian?
How did these Christians get to this place?
How did a faith built on the goodness of creation, the dignity of the body, the truth that every person bears the image of God regardless of skin, end up getting SO sucked into these Leftist slogans?
What I notice is that every position the Christian left holds happens to track PERFECTLY aligns with the cultural arguments of the Leftist political movement.
Every single one.
Trans kids.
Race.
Sexuality.
Borders.
Guns.
Climate.
And they'll use the Bible, in genuinely bizarre fashion and slogans to uphold these political beliefs.
Like "love thy neighbor" for example, to say that illegal immigrants didn't do anything wrong.
"The least of these" somehow means trans kids or something?
"Turn the other cheek" somehow means that criminals should never be held accountable for crimes.
It seems, and I could be wrong, that a LOT of Christians are using politics to shape their faith.
Not the other way around
Maybe I'm missing something. I'm willing to be wrong.
But from where I'm sitting it looks FAR LESS like Christians are wrestling with hard questions and more like a version of Christianity that has agreed to push forward every argument the culture wants it to...
What's going on with the Christian church??????
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@churchtalkative Psalm 46:10, "Be still, and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted over the earth."
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@lovetocook12345 @catturd2 I'm not tellin' but it's probably the closest.
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@catturd2 you agree? 3 if in the home, 2 if he’s in the yard, 1 if he’s running away after screwing with my Family or my Dog..
LadyValor@lady_valor_07
It’s 2:47 AM and someone just broke into your home. Which one will you choose?
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@churchtalkative For me, it was social media that gave me the awakening of just how much evil there is on this earth. It is no longer people with different opinions. It is good against evil. Social media led me back to Jesus. I pray for discernment every day.
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@TiffMoodNukes @Support You must be over the target. Another feather in your cap. Congrats.
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I only have ONE account on X
Do not follow these accounts, especially “the backup account”
I’ve reported them repeatedly to @Support and nothing is being done about it 🤷🏾♀️




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@S_Coughlin_DC Matthew 7:18-20,
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
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You might think that this sermon is something pondered in the moment for that week. In fact its a very heavily curated presentation that is systematically antithetical to the points she makes.
Go poke the United Church. But know this, every mainstream Protestant denomination and the Catholic Church have been severely penetrated by these impressively smooth and heavily curated narratives that have active measures all over them.
John 14 says what it says. If it says there is one way, one truth, and one life, and that no one comes to Father except through the Son, it doesn't get any more "my way or that highway" than that. And the whole rest of the New Testament doubles down on that. She knows. So maybe you should, too.
Not preaching, just observing. Know what you're hearing.
A very disarming sermon.
Protestia@Protestia
"(Saying) you have to claim Jesus as your Lord and Savior or you won't get to heaven makes no sense." Rev. Anna Flowers of the United Church in Walpole argues that "I am the way, the truth and the life" is NOT literal, & that there are many valid religions and ways to Jesus.
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@WesleyLHuff Here is the announcement from University of Glasgow:
gla.ac.uk/news/headline_…
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Today’s #manuscriptmonday is all about the recent publication of the discovery of new pages being revealed of the letters of Paul in the prominent manuscript, Codex H (a 🧵).

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Wolfman Jack. Guy had a great radio show..
Genius Tech@Geniustechw
I’m probably going to trigger some people again... 😅 Honestly, I don't recognize this one. Who is he?
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@ICEgov Why do they always look exactly how you would expect them to look
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almost like our species once had tails, long ago, before the watchers started modding our genomes
Massimo@Rainmaker1973
Innovative Japanese engineers created a wearable robotic tail designed to provide perfect balance for the elderly population.
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