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@WulfGrimTV @Sparkling_Aria I agree that GCD healing should be a much bigger focus, but I really don't see how they feel the same. I use the tools in their kits and I feel like I'm playing 4 different jobs.
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Wulfric@WulfGrimTV·
@DontEatOlive @Sparkling_Aria It's different for a DPS, Dragoon and a Ninja could both have a 1200 Potency attack on a 2min CD, and they feel very different between animations, and everything in between because rotations, Jumps, Ninjitsu, etc, all play and feel different. Healer is 1-2-2-2-2-2-2, oGCD repeat.
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Aria 🏳️‍⚧️@Sparkling_Aria·
"all ranged DPS play the same" is the single worst thing ive ever read this entire 111 vs 123 debate
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@TamamoTailFluff I mean the problem is the way things are now, ALL the tanks play identically, ALL the healers play the same, and ALL the ranged DPS play the same. Melee DPS are slightly more unique because of positionals. You need to understand why the other roles are desperate.

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DataRepublican (small r)@DataRepublican·
🚨🧵 BREAKING: Former DHS Chief Miles Taylor's prank site collected death threats against the President and 4,000+ people's personal data. Then exposed them through all an open API. 🚨 Two days ago, I showed you how Miles Taylor's GTFO ICE site exposed 17,000+ people's data on an open API. That site halted sign-ups and is still "under construction." But Taylor's organization DEFIANCE[.]org didn't just build one leaky site. They built two. On the same server. UndoTrump[.]org — launched April 1, 2026 as an "April Fools' joke" — collects names, emails, and political messages from people signing up for fictional "Removal Parties" at government buildings. The White House Ballroom. The Kennedy Center. The DOJ. Battleships. 4,000+ signup records. 3,300+ unique people. Same vulnerability. Same API. Same zero authentication. And this one has death threats against a sitting President in the database. The man who was deputy chief of staff for the department that houses the Secret Service couldn't secure a sign-up form. Again. As always, patience as I pull together the thread. 👇
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😶✨@DontEatOlive·
@Discord_Lies This is why you need to have a unique account for every server you join, and another that you use only for private communication that never joins any servers.
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Discord Lies@Discord_Lies·
This is what discord suspends you for, these days
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Wulfric@WulfGrimTV·
@DontEatOlive @Sparkling_Aria They don't really though. 2 primarily shield, 2 primarily flat heal. They still feel the same, outside of how they heal the incoming damage. Resto Druid and Mistweaver Monk in WoW are both Heal over Time based, but both heal VERY differently from eachother. Not almost mirrors.
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😶✨@DontEatOlive·
@WulfGrimTV @Sparkling_Aria The healers in FFXIV heal differently though, except for the part where they all use actions to do it.
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Wulfric@WulfGrimTV·
@DontEatOlive @Sparkling_Aria But they're all fairly GCD based, with a few oGCD here and there. Lillies for WHM is a step in the right direction, but kinda useless in the current oGCD meta, but that can all change next expanion. Adder for Sage could be way more interesting for example.
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😶✨@DontEatOlive·
@WulfGrimTV @Sparkling_Aria But if all healers are just healing with GCDs and OGCDs, wouldn't you still consider them to be the same?
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Wulfric@WulfGrimTV·
@DontEatOlive @Sparkling_Aria Probably just need to make Healers actually be Healers, instead of a weak DPS with oGCD Healers. And then make how they interact with their kits different between them, and not largely just "This is our oGCD or GCD Neutral aspect" because then everyone falls into the same bin.++
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Wulfric@WulfGrimTV·
@DontEatOlive @Sparkling_Aria I mean, I typically ended up doing the most healing of us and almost never touched a GCD, so no lol. That's just how healing in Savage and Ultimate tend to work. Unless people are making mistakes or heavily misplaying, it's just oGCDs out the butt and spam your DPS GCDs.
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😶✨@DontEatOlive·
@WulfGrimTV @Sparkling_Aria It seems like it really does boil down to the fact that they all involve pressing buttons. Are you just letting your cohealer do all of the healing?
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Wulfric@WulfGrimTV·
@DontEatOlive @Sparkling_Aria WHM and SGE play very similar, outside of one is Pure and one is Shield. Even with SGE having more oGCDs, they still have the general flow of combat to eachother, much like how DRK and WAR do outside of the 2minute window. SCH has fairy, but fairy is just 3 oGCD at this point.
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😶✨@DontEatOlive·
@WulfGrimTV @Sparkling_Aria The only way I can see them being the same, is they all involve pressing buttons to use skills. I do different things when I play different healers.
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Wulfric@WulfGrimTV·
@DontEatOlive @Sparkling_Aria I've played them for years actually. I feel like you're just heavily overthinking how they work to make them "different". Maybe Evolved will change stuff enough to make them feel different, but as they are right now, outside of AST they healers all feel the same.
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Wulfric@WulfGrimTV·
@DontEatOlive @Sparkling_Aria Yeah, those are VERY minor things, and again if you're min/maxing you almost never touch the Lillies outside of movement because it's DPS Neutral. Fairy is turned into just oGCD healing, Sage DPS's for Kardia and is still 99% oGCD healing. They don't feel that different at all.
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😶✨@DontEatOlive·
@JanFuzzball I think a lot of it comes from non-FFXIV players joining the discussion for culture war reasons, likely as a result of every criticism being dismissed with unwarranted accusations of transphobia. I don't like her, but she isn't the main problem with the MSQ story.
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Heresiarch@LeHeresiarch·
@DontEatOlive @ItoAyamiStan Yup. Prudes are going to put kids into permanent cradle-to-grave surveillance just to feel good about themselves.
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😶✨@DontEatOlive·
@RengeKurusu @carkie_oshino @JadonTheEternal @neffnaps When I said I need my mouse for targeting, that was in response to the suggestion of only using the keyboard. My mouse has two thumb buttons which I use as Ctrl and Alt. For me, a normal mouse is uncomfortable to use and causes wrist pain after a while. I need vertical.
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Renge@RengeKurusu·
@DontEatOlive @carkie_oshino @JadonTheEternal @neffnaps My mouse still does all my targeting, you can move your mouse cursor and left/right click while pressing the side buttons just fine (Also had no clue what a vertical mouse was and had to look it up and my god that looks so uncomfortable to use)
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😶✨@DontEatOlive·
@WulfGrimTV @Sparkling_Aria White mage's lilies allow you to GCD heal without a DPS loss. Scholar has the fairy and sectioned kit. Sage as a bigger focus on DPSing. They all feel different to play. There is a reason Scholar is my favourite while Sage is the least and it's not aesthetics.
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Wulfric@WulfGrimTV·
@DontEatOlive @Sparkling_Aria Not really, AST has cards to spice it up, but if you're trying to min/max all 4 Healers play fundamentally the same. Bard, Machinist and Dancer all feel very different. Every healer is mostly oGCD Healing, 30s DoT, and spamming 1 damage spell unless someone makes a mistake.
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😶✨@DontEatOlive·
@KamuriSama That's the worst part about what they're doing.
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Kamu-chan@KamuriSama·
You know, the really sad part about this is that I don’t even feel concerned when I see a post like this anymore. The boy who cried pedo has watered down the word to such an extreme degree that my first thought is never that a horrible crime might have occurred, but that “this is about anime girls, isn’t it?” (Hint: that’s exactly what it’s about)
The Lunduke Journal@LundukeJournal

Warning: Disturbing content. Drew DeVault (Open Source Dev) & Brodie Robertson (Linux YouTuber) have both been accused of distributing pornographic material depicting children. There's a pattern here. Open Source has a Pedo Problem.

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Renge@RengeKurusu·
@DontEatOlive @carkie_oshino @JadonTheEternal @neffnaps Ever heard of an mmo mouse? I have 13 bindable buttons (probably 16 if i modify the mouse settings) all accessible on one have (mostly the thumb too) Theres also ways you can play with just the keyboard if you wanted
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Wulfric@WulfGrimTV·
@Sparkling_Aria Casters and Phys Range are by far the most diverse of the classes. When people are saying stuff plays too similar, they're really talking about tanks and healers. The DPS are mostly fine. Outside basically everyone being a 2min Job, but thats an easy fix.
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Demous@Demous_Abyss·
@Sparkling_Aria The only one of these that has a genuine argument is Tanks amd even then the "all jobs play the same" is massively fucjing overblown by the community. Like they're different enough that I have 2 tanks I absolutwly despise playimg.
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😶✨@DontEatOlive·
@Sparkling_Aria The same is true for all jobs within a role, unless by "play the same" they mean "you press buttons to use skills".
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