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#IntrovertTurnOns Blocking all my followers, one by one.

@TexasTamieK I tried having a discussion in this thread with a gun person. He complained about his opponents citing fallacies. Turns out he doesn't even know what they are saying.

This is so great.

@Carbela_ship Check this out.

From a class I’m taking but it made me think about Twitter like do we know what logical fallacies are

@2ndATexan @TexasTamieK I had to screenshot that one. Mother of God... that's the meme for it, all right.

@2ndATexan @TexasTamieK How did you read that and think it means what you just said it means?

@2ndATexan @TexasTamieK You posted a graph of the total breadth of crime rates and correlated it to gun control. You can't be that dumb. You can't. Don't do that, because it makes you look like a retard.

@DoughNee @TexasTamieK But they are on my side. You're just rationalizing and trying to move the goal posts in a weak attempt at getting out of the corner you've painted yourself into. You can't refute my contentions so your only moves are logical fallacies, hyperbole and emotional blackmail.

@2ndATexan @TexasTamieK Getting lectured about whataboutisms by someone who used skyscaper suicides to justify guns deaths is a very interesting irony.

@2ndATexan @TexasTamieK If you think I've committed a strawman, all you have to do is tell me which details I have changed (with me, that's likely not a thing I've done on purpose) and I'll reevaluate.

@2ndATexan @TexasTamieK It's not a fallacy. It's a bias. Confirmation bias.

@DoughNee @TexasTamieK And you can't refute my contentions. Your only move is to run back to the shallow water of logical fallacies, hyperbole and emotional blackmail.

@2ndATexan @Mule_Whisperer @FarmBeagle @ProDemocracyy @KentuckyGoddess @TexasTamieK They do, the media loves a good shooting. Are you as easily manipulated on your end of the spectrum?

@DoughNee @Mule_Whisperer @FarmBeagle @ProDemocracyy @KentuckyGoddess @TexasTamieK Yet gun control proponents sure as shit use them for emotional currency. They use them to instill undue fear for political gain. Do they not?

@2ndATexan @TexasTamieK It looks to me like you are fixating on data that supports what you already decided.

@DoughNee @TexasTamieK You're missing the point and you're trying to move the goal posts in a weak attempt at getting out of the corner you've painted yourself into. Gun control is an abject failure at achieving anything.

@2ndATexan @Mule_Whisperer @FarmBeagle @ProDemocracyy @KentuckyGoddess @TexasTamieK You are right that it doesn't matter. Shooting sprees aren't really the kind of thing gun control trys to prevent anyway.

It doesn't matter. The criteria is applied equally across each country's data sets. The fact remains, gun control is an abject failure at ending or curtailing school shooting sprees. Canada, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Austria, Azerbaijan, Serbia, Czechia, Russia and Germany all have a tiny fraction of the firearm ownership as the USA and all have draconian gun control yet their per capita rates, in frequency and in death toll in mass school shooting sprees are HIGHER or nearly equal than the USA.

@2ndATexan @TexasTamieK All this says to me is that the parts of the country with honor cultures tend to shoot each other. There's no reason to think those shooting would t be reduced with fewer guns.

@DoughNee @TexasTamieK The areas of the country with the highest firearm ownership have the lowest homicide rates & the areas of the country with the lowest firearm ownership have the highest homicide rates. There's no correlation between the proliferation of firearms and homicides. Just the opposite.

@2ndATexan @TexasTamieK You wouldn't see a correlation here. The type and frequency altercations in Congo is independent of the type and frequency of altercations in Canada. The question is whether any of those would be reduced, not whether the numbers corellate.

@DoughNee @TexasTamieK Really? Countries with the highest firearm ownership tend to have the lowest homicide rates and countries with fractional firearm ownership and draconian gun control trend the highest. There's no correlation between the proliferation of firearms and homicides. Just the opposite.

@2ndATexan @Mule_Whisperer @FarmBeagle @ProDemocracyy @KentuckyGoddess @TexasTamieK Shooting sprees suck but they are the tiniest of drops in the bucket. Based on your previous "statistics" and how easy it is to manupulate shooting sprees, I don't trust this data. E.g: What is a "shooting spree" exactly?

@DoughNee @Mule_Whisperer @FarmBeagle @ProDemocracyy @KentuckyGoddess @TexasTamieK If gun control is the solution explain Canada Norway Sweden Finland Austria Azerbaijan Serbia Czechia Russia & Germany with fractional firearm ownership/draconian gun control having higher/nearly equal rates in frequency & in death toll in mass school shooting sprees than the USA

@2ndATexan @TexasTamieK I know, and you know, that crime rates are higher in cities for various reasons that have nothing to do with guns. And you also know that that is the reason there is a greater impotus in cities to reduce crime rates, and this guns.

@DoughNee @TexasTamieK That homicides and crime are overwhelmingly concentrated in Democrat run shitholes whether looking at raw numbers or on a per capita basis and it has fuck all to do with the proliferation of firearms?

@2ndATexan @TexasTamieK You mean ALL homicides? You didn't even adjust for the decreasing crime rate in general? Let alone specifically homicides doenllne with a gun? You aren't that dumb.

@DoughNee @TexasTamieK The homicide rate is half of what it was 35-45-55 years ago with 3X the firearms today Homicide Rate 1980-10.2/100K Homicide Rate 2025-4.1/100K Firearms 1980-136M Firearms 2025-519M There's no correlation between the proliferation of firearms and homicides. Quite the opposite

@2ndATexan @TexasTamieK This doesn't seem to be true. The best data I've seen indicates reduced homicides and crime and suicides and such in populations that have increased basic gun safety rules. We might be at a fundamental difference on this point. But...

@DoughNee @TexasTamieK The problem isn't guns. There's no correlation between the proliferation of firearms and homicides. You're either missing the point or being obtuse.

@2ndATexan @TexasTamieK I don't think these maps are making the point you think they do.

@DoughNee @TexasTamieK OK. Let's do that. Uh oh. It's even more damning for Democrats. Homicides and crime are overwhelmingly concentrated in Democrat run shit holes. It has fuck all to do with guns and everything to do with shitty Democrat governance. One rotten apple spoils the whole barrel.

@2ndATexan @Mule_Whisperer @FarmBeagle @ProDemocracyy @KentuckyGoddess @TexasTamieK If 51 kids die from dogs and 49 die from guns then we shouldn't do anything about gun safety? I'm not saying we should, just that po8ntijg at unrelated things just doesn't make any difference.

@Mule_Whisperer @FarmBeagle @ProDemocracyy @KentuckyGoddess @TexasTamieK @DoughNee Yeah. It already blocked me after making an irrational appeal to emotion about tHe cHiLdReN... After I've already demonstrated a child is more likely to be mauled to death by a dog or die being struck by lightning than be murdered in a school shooting spree.