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🇻🇦 Gerald Ironfaith
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@Bennydover77 @avedis2024 @lilyjayofficial The chains are mursal which are da'if (weak), but the narrators are thiqat (trustworthy), as Al-Suyuti confirms. Ibn Hajar concludes the incident has a basis because multiple mursal chains strengthen each other (hasan li-ghayrihi). That's Sunni hadith science.
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@Ibn_abdu9 @IslamMumin30 @muslimorthodoxy @InspiringPhilos False. In hadith science, a mursal chain is da'if (weak), but not necessarily maudu' (fabricated). The narrators in the chain can still be thiqat (trustworthy), which Al-Suyuti affirms. Multiple mursal chains become hasan li-ghayrihi; that's why Ibn Hajar said it has a basis.
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@DrJohnMSmith @IslamMumin30 @muslimorthodoxy @InspiringPhilos you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. if the chain in a narration is broken then it stays inauthentic; that’s why you can’t find it in bukhari or muslim and the consensus of the scholars conclude it’s bananas. are you going to apologize for this lie now?
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Wow, I’m so happy that Christians like @InspiringPhilos & others are finally admitting there are 3 Gods.
You guys are bringing people to the Lord, best Dawah online right now
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@Ibn_abdu9 @IslamMumin30 @muslimorthodoxy @InspiringPhilos False. In hadith science, a mursal chain is da'if (weak), but not necessarily maudu' (fabricated). The narrators in the chain can still be thiqat (trustworthy), which Al-Suyuti affirms.
Multiple mursal chains become hasan li-ghayrihi; that's why Ibn Hajar said it has a basis.
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@DrJohnMSmith @IslamMumin30 @muslimorthodoxy @InspiringPhilos you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. if the chain in a narration is broken then it stays inauthentic; that’s why you can’t find it in bukhari or muslim and the consensus of the scholars conclude it’s bananas. are you going to apologize for this lie now?
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@enesovat22 Sources:
The chains are mursal (da'if), but the narrators are thiqat (trustworthy), as Al-Suyuti confirms. Ibn Hajar concludes the incident has a basis because multiple mursal chains strengthen each other (hasan li-ghayrihi). That's Sunni hadith science.
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@enesovat22 I think the Shirk Dilemma should also get more attention.
When Muhammad prayed and bowed down to the pagan goddesses Manat, Uzza, and Lat for 8 years because of satan.
It implies:
1. Muhammad did "shirk" (unforgivable).
2. Satan possessed him.
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@Ibn_abdu9 @IslamMumin30 @muslimorthodoxy @InspiringPhilos The chains are mursal (da'if), but the narrators are thiqat (trustworthy), as Al-Suyuti confirms. Ibn Hajar concludes the incident has a basis because multiple mursal chains strengthen each other (hasan li-ghayrihi). That's Sunni hadith science. Source: seekersguidance.org/answers/hadith…
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@DrJohnMSmith @IslamMumin30 @muslimorthodoxy @InspiringPhilos not a single takhreej of authenticity btw! christian apologists are desperate
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@Ibn_abdu9 @IslamMumin30 @muslimorthodoxy @InspiringPhilos The chains are mursal (da'if), but the narrators are thiqat (trustworthy), as Al-Suyuti confirms. Ibn Hajar concludes the incident has a basis because multiple mursal chains strengthen each other (hasan li-ghayrihi). That's Sunni hadith science.
Source: seekersguidance.org/answers/hadith…
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@DrJohnMSmith @IslamMumin30 @muslimorthodoxy @InspiringPhilos literally.. just read the sentence before the cute highlight
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@AbuHaroonSyed @Archetypical20 Relaaax. Breathe in, breathe out.
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@DrJohnMSmith @Archetypical20 Relaaaaaax. Don’t cry when you fail then.
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Islamic dawah spends more time trying to prove Islam is true than even on critiques of other faiths.
Whereas Christian evangelism nowadays seems to spends more time on critiques of Islam than on trying to prove Christianity is itself true.
What does this tell us?
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It’s finally here!😎💪🏽 🙏🏽✝️💝 @SCApologia @Acts17David
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@Ibn_abdu9 @IslamMumin30 @muslimorthodoxy @InspiringPhilos Ibn Hajar (Fath al-Bari 8:439) says the multiple mursal chains gives the incident a basis: "فَإِنَّ الطُّرُقَ إِذَا كَثُرَتْ وَتَبَايَنَتْ مَخَارِجُهَا دَلَّ ذَلِكَ عَلَى أَنَّ لَهَا أَصْلًا" Source: islamweb.net/ar/library/con… Image:
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@DrJohnMSmith @IslamMumin30 @muslimorthodoxy @InspiringPhilos so to get this straight, you lied in your initial meme, then you started coping by referring to a story which is considered broken in transmission and doesn’t even say the lies you fabricated to begin with. Thank God i’m not a christian!
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@Ibn_abdu9 @IslamMumin30 @muslimorthodoxy @InspiringPhilos Ibn Hajar (Fath al-Bari 8:439) says the multiple mursal chains gives the incident a basis: "فَإِنَّ الطُّرُقَ إِذَا كَثُرَتْ وَتَبَايَنَتْ مَخَارِجُهَا دَلَّ ذَلِكَ عَلَى أَنَّ لَهَا أَصْلًا"
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@DrJohnMSmith @IslamMumin30 @muslimorthodoxy @InspiringPhilos so to get this straight, you lied in your initial meme, then you started coping by referring to a story which is considered broken in transmission and doesn’t even say the lies you fabricated to begin with. Thank God i’m not a christian!
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🇻🇦 Gerald Ironfaith@DrJohnMSmith
@Ibn_abdu9 @IslamMumin30 @muslimorthodoxy @InspiringPhilos That doesn't make it false. You're confusing sahih (perfectly authentic) with mawdu' (fabricated). Ibn Hajar graded the incident hasan li-ghayrihi (good due to others) in Fath al-Bari, because multiple mursal chains strengthen each other. Source: seekersguidance.org/answers/hadith…. Image:
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@DrJohnMSmith @IslamMumin30 @muslimorthodoxy @InspiringPhilos a mursal hadith is not authentic; that’s why it’s called (mursal) the consensus is that you’re still grasping at straws. it’s like you patching verses from the bible and apocryphal books to prove the trinity 💀
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@Ibn_abdu9 @IslamMumin30 @muslimorthodoxy @InspiringPhilos That doesn't make it false. You're confusing sahih (perfectly authentic) with mawdu' (fabricated).
Ibn Hajar graded the incident hasan li-ghayrihi (good due to others) in Fath al-Bari, because multiple mursal chains strengthen each other.
Source: seekersguidance.org/answers/hadith….
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@DrJohnMSmith @IslamMumin30 @muslimorthodoxy @InspiringPhilos a mursal hadith is not authentic; that’s why it’s called (mursal) the consensus is that you’re still grasping at straws. it’s like you patching verses from the bible and apocryphal books to prove the trinity 💀
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🇻🇦 Gerald Ironfaith@DrJohnMSmith
@Ibn_abdu9 @IslamMumin30 @muslimorthodoxy @InspiringPhilos Good. You conceded it's mursal (broken) & not maudu' (fabricated). In hadith science, multiple thiqat (trustworthy) chains that are mursal strengthen each other according to the principle hassan li-ghayrihi. That's why Ibn Hajar (top hadith scholar) said the incident has a basis:
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@Sachinettiyil It's so sad that Sweden is surrendering willingly to the papist plague.
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The Archbishop of Sweden, Cardinal Anders Arborelius, blessed St John’s Church in Stockholm, one of the city’s largest churches, which has recently been acquired by the Catholic Church from the Church of Sweden to serve its growing Catholic community.
Info: Archdiocese of Stockholm
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@Ibn_abdu9 @IslamMumin30 @muslimorthodoxy @InspiringPhilos Good. You conceded it's mursal (broken) & not maudu' (fabricated).
In hadith science, multiple thiqat (trustworthy) chains that are mursal strengthen each other according to the principle hassan li-ghayrihi. That's why Ibn Hajar (top hadith scholar) said the incident has a basis:
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That the Quran confirms our scriptures:
- It confirms the scriptures WITH the Jews and Christians at Muhammad's time (S. 2:41 / 4:47)
- It commands us to follow our scriptures and judge by them (S. 5:43-47, 5:66-68)
- PARTIAL belief in these books is condemned, so it's WHOLESALE confirmation (S. 2:85)
- It teaches that the standard of truth for Muhammad is the prior revelation (S. 10:94)
- It teaches that NOBODY can change the words of Allah (S. 6:115)
- The condemnation is that we twist these books VERBALLY, not textually (S. 3:78)
So the Quran confirms the entirety of the text of our scriptures, then (unknowingly) contradicts them (example: Surah 9:30 VS John 10:36 on Christ being the Son of God) because Muhammad never read them and assumed he was in line with them because he believed he was a prophet.
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What's the #1 thing Christians should understand about Islam?
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@Ibn_abdu9 @IslamMumin30 @muslimorthodoxy @InspiringPhilos 1/ - Bazzār & Khuzaymah are 19th-century. - Qāḍī ‘Iyāḍ & Bayhaqī reject it based on ismah (the circular reasoning that Muhammad is infallable), not due to hadith science. - Kathir calls it mursal, not fabricated. His own teacher, Taymiyyah, accepts it.
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@Ibn_abdu9 @IslamMumin30 @muslimorthodoxy @InspiringPhilos 3/
- Khuzaymah doesn't bring isnad evidence and is contradicted by Ṭabarī, Ibn Sa‘d, Ibn Isḥāq, al‑Jalalayn, al‑Qurṭubī, al‑Bayḍāwī, and others.
- Ṭabarī, One of the greatest early Sunni historians He includes the story in detail with multiple chains.
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@Ibn_abdu9 @IslamMumin30 @muslimorthodoxy @InspiringPhilos 2/
- Hajar says it has a basis because of tadāfuq al‑ṭuruq (multiple independent sources).
- Bazzār only says: “We do not know a connected chain for this report.” That's not the same as calling it false.
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