@aguacelular @hypareyli2 Not my argument, if they wanted conflict they should have executed it better. Thats my point. It was never about naruto being perfect.
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DjiboutiJones
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@Dripsthetics @hypareyli2 OMG, the character isn't perfect, so they ruined him. I want a continuation where my character doesn't make mistakes, a flawless character that only farms aura against all the enemies
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State of Naruto fandom in 2026
- still shipping adult characters with minors
- still posting repeated Facebook memes
- still making misogynistic jokes
-still spreading misinformation abt the series
-still sending death threats over stan wars
What exactly did boruto ruin????
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@nrtsdattebayo Boruto ruined whole fandom
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@rccsetzer @hypareyli2 I do just later on in the thread. I dont hate boruto as a manga, I jist think the writing suffers because of those decisions made. But thats just my opinion on it.
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@Dripsthetics @hypareyli2 Kishimoto was the one who write Naruto as a Shitty father because he wanted people to sympatize with Boruto and create conflict blame him.
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@ismailasow56872 @Boltsxk Really isnt. Its just childish to attack me personally because i disagree with a characterization choice.
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@Dripsthetics @Boltsxk The insults is needed for retarded like you
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"Absent father "
Bunch of illiterates
DjiboutiJones@Dripsthetics
@hypareyli2 Boruto ruined the established story of Narutos life and personality by destroying his character and making him an absent father. Blatant character assassination. Fandoms are always filled with shitty people. But the writers for boruto right now arent helping their case
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@Fawles @hypareyli2 Thats fair. We've hit a real methodological split on what craft evaluation requires. I'm treating transmission failure as part of craft, you're treating internal coherence as the sufficient standard. Neither of us is going to move the other on that foundation.
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@hinasaralawyer Youre fine. Twitter character limits make it difficult to articulate that argument the way i intend to. I've just had multiple people do that today so I have it prepared lol
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@Dripsthetics Sorry if I misunderstood you 😭 that's just how it looked from my perspective Now I know it's not what you meant
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people when their favorite character is not the perfect prince charming but normal human with flaws
DjiboutiJones@Dripsthetics
@hypareyli2 Boruto ruined the established story of Narutos life and personality by destroying his character and making him an absent father. Blatant character assassination. Fandoms are always filled with shitty people. But the writers for boruto right now arent helping their case
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@Fawles @hypareyli2 You can be consistent and still undercommunicate. That would be a craft failure, not a logical one
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@Fawles @hypareyli2 Fair on internal logic. But craft isn't just construction — it's transmission. A shadow trait that a significant portion of the audience reads as authorial neglect rather than tragic blindness hasn't fully landed regardless of whether the mechanism is internally intact.
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@hinasaralawyer Framing a textual critique as "can't accept flaws" is a strawman. I never argued he shouldn't have flaws. That framing dismissed my actual argument without engaging it. That's not a response to the critique. That's a way of avoiding it.
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@Dripsthetics I don't want and I didn't throw insults but for me as a fan of Boruto and Naruto for years it's not cool when old fans can't accept Boruto, like okay you don't have to like it but move on, you don't have to watch Boruto
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@Fawles @hypareyli2 And the standard isn't just audience reception. It's whether the writing provides enough connective tissue between the internal beats and the specific relationship dynamic to make the continuity visible on the page, not just inferable in retrospect.
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@Fawles @hypareyli2 That's not mechanisms working under load. That's the characterization losing the thread. The question isnt whether overcommitment can theoretically produce that. It's whether the writing makes the continuity visible enough that the shadow reads as him not as a different character
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@Fawles @hypareyli2 The story asks us to read it as explaining Boruto's experience of being unseen by his father. Those aren't similar. Show me where Naruto registers Boruto's emotional state specifically, not just his own exhaustion, and the portrait is coherent. Without that the gap is still there
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@Fawles @hypareyli2 The standard isn't volume, fair. But coherence requires the mechanism to connect to the specific relationship the story is asking it to carry. The beats you cited show Naruto registering the general cost of overcommitment.
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@Boltsxk Refining an argument as evidence comes in isn't a goalpost shift. That's just how debate works. The insults didn't help your case either.
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@Dripsthetics "Only the win " you went from absent parents to shifting the goal post
My last reply to someone who can't even be consistent nor back track thier arguments
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@Fawles @hypareyli2 If so, the dominant read of that Naruto is still functional disconnection rather than visible strain. Scattered quiet beats don't equal a coherent internal portrait if the surrounding writing contradicts them.
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@Fawles @hypareyli2 Fair. if those beats are there, I'll grant the mechanism is depicted. The question shifts to whether it's depicted consistently enough to make the characterization coherent across the full early run, or whether those moments are isolated enough.
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@Boltsxk Only shows Naruto present for a win. The writing problem isn't that he's incapable of showing up. It's that he doesn't register his son's ongoing emotional state. Pride at milestones and attunement to a child's daily experience are different things. Doesn't contradict my critique
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@Dripsthetics The top panel is from chap 11 years before kawakis debut
This is Naruto congratulating boruto after he passed his test in chap 4 you're ignorant, stupid, retarded and pride yourselves in refusing to listen
Shut the fuck up you don't even read the series
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@Raghunandan_05 @Fawles @hypareyli2 The writing problem is that same Naruto somehow doesn't register that his son feels unseen. That's not a different kid making the lessons inapplicable. That's the character failing to apply his own foundational experience to his own family.
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@Raghunandan_05 @Fawles @hypareyli2 The point isn't they were model fathers. It's that Naruto internalized from them what it means to be seen and recognized. His entire emotional core. Iruka seeing him is the foundation of his character.
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