Emoney

@Hanbali2024 @IslamicPackers @GodLogic_GL No, zero energies are created in any sense. They are strictly uncreated 💀But you still fail basic logic an uncreated energy having a beginning in TIME (relation) does not mean it has a beginning in EXISTENCE (ontology).

@Emoneyzx @IslamicPackers @GodLogic_GL He says ‘not all are without beginning’ referring to the energies, that not all are without beginning. Can you answer the question? Can you say any of the energies in ANY sense are created ? Retard?

Popular Christian debater @GodLogic_GL gets exposed AGAIN for Defending Child m*lestation He says and I quote “Do you think it’s wrong to m*lest Children.” 💀 Christians, do you condemn this behavior?

@Hanbali2024 @IslamicPackers @GodLogic_GL You're casually strawmanning me because you can't distinguish between an ontological change in God and an economic manifestation in time.Palamas says it "has a beginning" relative to CREATION, not that it pops into existence inside God's nature

@Emoneyzx @IslamicPackers @GodLogic_GL ‘Not all uncreated energies are without beginning’ Can an energy be created? Yes or no?? You’re clearly dodging this And if you say no Then ‘not everything uncreated is without beginning’ meaning something that is uncreated has a beginning You’re fried again lmfao

@Hanbali2024 @IslamicPackers @GodLogic_GL "Has a beginning" means it has a beginning IN RELATION to us, not that it literally began to exist inside God's nature. It is uncreated, meaning it is ontologically eternal. Time has a beginning, so God's eternal energy intersecting with time has a beginning relative to creation

@Hanbali2024 @IslamicPackers @GodLogic_GL Yes, they are ontologically the SAME eternal energy, you clown💀 "Capability" is the energy at rest; "action" is that same energy moving toward creation.Nothing new begins to exist inside God's nature. Only the creature experiences it in time. You don't understand act and potency

@Emoneyzx @IslamicPackers @GodLogic_GL Oh ? Is the action itself the same thing as the capability? YIKES

@Hanbali2024 @IslamicPackers @GodLogic_GL You just destroyed your own syllogism you clown 💀If the temporal action is just the eternal energy "realized temporally" toward creatures, then nothing uncreated inside God's nature began to exist. The change happens in the creature, not God. Premise 2 of doom

@Hanbali2024 @IslamicPackers @GodLogic_GL Option 3 is why you lose💀 Palamas explicitly says it is uncreated,meaning it's God’s own eternal power intersecting with time.The relation to creatures begins, but the energy itself is God’s eternal life. If it's uncreated, it doesn't "begin to exist" as a new entity in God

Oh wow, you won’t even read what Palamas himself says. Clown. ‘We for our part know the energies of God are uncreated, not all are without beginning.’ Here you have three options An energy can be something that is a creation An energy is eternal (but he says not all are without beginning LOL) so this doesn’t work An energy can be uncreated (not without beginning) Can an energy be a creation yes or no? If no, then your only option is to say here he is saying exactly what I said. You’re an illiterate retard who can’t read the quote properly.

@Hanbali2024 @IslamicPackers @GodLogic_GL 💀 Read the next sentence: "beginning and end must be ascribed, if not to the creative power itself, then at least to its ACTIVITY AS DIRECTED TOWARDS CREATED THINGS." The energy in itself is eternal; its temporal activation toward creatures is what has a beginning. ILLITERATE

@Emoneyzx @IslamicPackers @GodLogic_GL Wait so when he says not all are without beginning and ‘not all are without beginning’ is uncreated, is that an action? It’s either in God or not in God. You’re so easy lol

@Hanbali2024 @IslamicPackers @GodLogic_GL wait what , wait you can't read is all im hearing

@Hanbali2024 @IslamicPackers @GodLogic_GL Imagine bragging about "equivocation" when you don't even know what a homonym is 💀Equivocal means the word has completely DIFFERENT definitions like a river bank vs a money bank. Different forms of the exact SAME unified uncreated class isn't equivocation it's diversification

@Emoneyzx @IslamicPackers @GodLogic_GL Retard it’s an equivocal term it seems you don’t even know what an equivocal term is prima facie you’re a bigger retard than I thought LMAO. Fyi I’ve shown this to EOs who actually read unlike you and they’re laughing at how bad you are

@Hanbali2024 @IslamicPackers @GodLogic_GL Are you actually illiterate? 💀 I literally just said the uncreated operation DOES NOT have a beginning. The operation is eternal,only the temporal EFFECT has a beginning. You keep confusing the eternal decree with the creation in time because you can't read.

@Emoneyzx @IslamicPackers @GodLogic_GL Sorry how can an uncreated operation have a beginning and it be talking about his capability to bring an effect? Retarded ape

@Hanbali2024 @IslamicPackers @GodLogic_GL You can’t read your own screenshot. The text says there are different FORMS of energy, not that the TERM "energy" is semantic equivocation in Palamism. They all belong to a single unified class of uncreated operations. Thanks for proving you lack basic comprehension moron

@Emoneyzx @IslamicPackers @GodLogic_GL ‘ENERGY IS NOT EQUIVOCAL’ HAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAA BIGGEST BLUNDER YOU MADE YET

@Hanbali2024 @IslamicPackers @GodLogic_GL You aren’t teaching anyone anything. "Energy" is not equivocal in Palamism. We strictly distinguish the eternal uncreated operation (energeia) from the temporal created effect (ergon).The action subsists in God eternally,the effect happens in time. You're so buns

Once again for the retard who had no response. Action subsists within God, which is the energy. Since you don’t know energy is an equivocal term for EOs it’s sad I need to teach you this. Give an actual response Change is just having one property at t2 you didn’t have at t2 1. Any uncreated property/action is not separate from God. 2. Not everything uncreated in God is without beginning. 3. Therefore, something uncreated in God begins to exist. 4. Whatever is in God is not separate from God. 5. Therefore, something uncreated and not separate from God begins to exist. 6. Whatever begins to exist is not eternal. 7. Therefore, something in God is not eternal.

@Hanbali2024 @IslamicPackers @GodLogic_GL Actual slowpoke

Wait you think that necessarily if there’s something separate from God that’s eternal it’s a 4th God? You’re actually terrible at Phil LOL. Take people who hold to necessary in itself vs through another where they accept modal collapse + eternalism. You’re a trashcan for making this point Remember how I fried you and you said ‘don’t use jahmi arguments’ instead of responding LOL

@Hanbali2024 @IslamicPackers @GodLogic_GL keep dreaming buddy

@Emoneyzx @IslamicPackers @GodLogic_GL I don’t expect to see you in any comments section btw after you got fried by me

@zapper_havtamo I thank God you have inquiring in your user

Holy shit Sam Shamoun was so funny in his prime lmao😂

@callitbigmana @awalzol_01 @FamilieB3 @GodLogic_GL @korrathetaymi youtube.com/watch?v=bhzU2C… dis was frying me

@awalzol_01 @FamilieB3 @GodLogic_GL @korrathetaymi She literally destroyed her own position dumbass. But I guess that takes actual IQ to realize. She couldn't even tell you what a logical fallacy is.

Ayo is this y’all’s queen forreal? @korrathetaymi Listen to how Muslims talk to each other behind the scenes 👀 W Korra

@Hanbali2024 It is a false dilemma because you don't understand the difference between an essence and an activity. The energy is within God as His eternal power. When it acts in time, it doesn't add a new "item" to His essence any more than you choosing to speak adds a new limb to your body.

@Emoneyzx You got fried in every aspect now you’re still stuck in a destructive dilemma

The fact you believe that the Holy Spirit gave her this answer shows that you just falsified Christianity 😆😆😆 let’s see why in the thread below!

@Hanbali2024 It's within God as His eternal power. The beginning" applies strictly to its activity toward creatures in time. God willing a temporal effect from all eternity doesn't change His essence when that effect actually happens. Your "dilemma" relies on treating an action like an object

@Emoneyzx Oh yet Palamas says that there’s uncreated energies that aren’t all without beginning so either There’s something uncreated separate from God Or it’s within God. Pick your poison this is a destructive dilemma