it's so painfully obvious u guys never read the book. meleys was ridden by aerianna targaryen into the battle of sweetenerwater against taelor velaryon.
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@LakshathilOraal @subjecttidings King daeron 1 observed that the sandy dornish were even darker than the salty dornish it says faced burned brown by the hot dornish sun, It says they live in the deserts and the long river valleys.
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@Etc440 @subjecttidings I think sandy dornish aren't dark,they are likely just really tanned.
Salty are less tanned ones.Light skin but still distinctly Dornish
Stony are just white looking Dornish people. They can likely mix in well with rest of the Westeros without being seen as Dornish
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@LakshathilOraal @subjecttidings Yes the salty dornish have the most rhoynish blood. Yea the martells would have olive skin, dark hair and dark eyes. Greek, spanish,italian,portugese is how grrm described how he always pictured them.
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@Etc440 @subjecttidings I thought Martells were the most Rhoynar and had olive skin, dark hair and dark eyes?!?
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“Rhaenyra was never a queen,”the king declared, insisting that henceforth, in all chronicles and court records, his half sister be referred to only as “princess,” the title of queen being reserved only for his mother Alicent and his late wife and sister Helaena,the “true queens.”
History is written by the victors
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Raiders fans may be in a rude awakening for Linderbaum, he won’t be bad but the way the fans talk about him you’d think he’s Jason kelce
Luke@LukeG_FB
Raiders top 10.
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@LukeG_FB @nathanamir526 He is easily a top 2-3 center in the nfl it would be a huge upgrade from what the raiders had last year.
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@nathanamir526 Totally fair I was just kinda pointing out how high the fanbase thinks of him and I don’t blame him, just trying to point out that he has his flaws, but the upgrade can’t be overstated
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@JuanterRG @gulaaab__ Yea but there are also different dornish people called sandy dornish and they are described as being darker than the salty dornish. The martells are salty dornish. While house dayne would be stony dornish.
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@Etc440 @gulaaab__ Pictured them more Spaniard/Italian than central/east european rather than Arab or latinos
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@subjecttidings That moorish Spain comment was him just using a real life example to explain how Rhoynar expansion happened.
Not that Dorne is based on Moorish Spain. And I don't think Rhoynars are sub Saharan African.
Dorne is ultimately Spain+Palestine with Welsh.
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@subjecttidings @LakshathilOraal There are dornish people that are described as more darker than the salty dornish which are what the martells are. They are called sandy dornish.
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@LakshathilOraal Mediterranean doesnt equal white. It’s a wide region so it’s not just Italy or Greece
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@JuanterRG @gulaaab__ Even tho baelor could earn respect with ease and had proven himself to be a great warrior. They distrusted him because of his dark hair and his dark eyes, Because he was dornish and didn’t look like a Targaryen.
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@gulaaab__ Maybe they are. Reminder that this is a medieval fantasy story and that in those time people like the Irish,Spanish,Italians,ottomans,Russians, etc were all considered different races. The concept of "white people" is fairly new in history and ASOIAF is not based on those rules
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@JuanterRG @gulaaab__ You are absolutely correct! The salty dornish like the martells are white and the same race as northman the difference would be ethnicity. For example in the first blackfyre rebellion people were prejudice towards baelor breakspear because he didn’t look like a targaryen.
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Thinking about the fire and blood tv show we could gotten where everyone in the dance is just evil like they were written
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@EMayaturk True there was already a few clashes between daemon and daeron but he still didnt rebell for a long time even with alot of people looking at him as the rightful king.
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There is no proof of Daeron wanting Daemon on his side, it was honestly a miracle Daemon didn't rebel sooner
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@danyciris TG enjoyers desperately think that akotsk Targs hates bastards. In fact, Daeron and his fam probably hate that Daemon rebelled against them. The rebels means also accepting Daeron's bastardy allegation. Although political reasons played a major role in the background, Daeron ++
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@_propane_tank_ @TheMaynardPlumm Yes. Also dorne has other types of people other than just the salty dornish like the martells are. The sandy dornish are described as darker, and the stony dornish are described as having brown hair or blond hair with faces that freckled or burned in the sun.
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@Etc440 @TheMaynardPlumm For the vast majority of recorded history Southern Europeans would’ve consistently identified themselves more strongly with African and Asian Mediterranean peoples than Northern Europeans
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Here’s an official art of Aliandra Martell and her two siblings by Martina Fačková for Rise of the Dragon. They look pretty Palestinian or Moorish to me.
adalyn | vadernyra@saintjustedany
the only official depiction of elia martell, a mediterranean woman, btw. you can not claim racism when it isn’t there 😭!
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@lysssortizz @antivaslvr @saintjustedany With some entirely imaginary influences mixed in. But he said he always pictured the salty dornish which are the martells as being more Mediterranean in appearance, Greek,Spanish,Italian, Portugese etc dark hair and eyes and olive skin.
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@antivaslvr @saintjustedany okay so he specifically said in a blog post from 2000 that the main two influences are moorish spain (when north african and arabs controlled spain in the middle ages) and palestine
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the only official depiction of elia martell, a mediterranean woman, btw. you can not claim racism when it isn’t there 😭!
🧝🏾@luckyvickyz
the concept of hating the idea of brown woman and her children being loved so bad that you dig up an old ass tweet and accuse a lesbian being into a fictional pedophile
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@lysssortizz @antivaslvr @saintjustedany He was talking about how dorne looked and the flavor given the culture by the great rhoynar influx led by nymeria. He said it would be the equivalent would moorish influence in parts of spain. So you could say dorne is wales mixed with spain and palestine.
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@batu01_ @herrzelied I dont think aegon was infertile. I believe visenya used magic but not for maegor. Aenys was probably just sick he was just as tall as aegon but not as powerful. Also maegor and visenya never even questioned aenys father not being aegon so it likely was just a rumor.
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@Etc440 @herrzelied Evet öyle fakat kitaplarda rhaenys'in etrafında yakışıklı ozanların, tiyatroculardan bir grubun oluştuğu söyleniyor. Visenya'ninda kara büyü ile uğraştığı da bir dedikodu. Yazar bizim hayal gücümüzü bırakmış. Bence Aegon kısırdı.
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Maegor insan değildi bence Visenya kara büyü ile hamile kalmış olabilir çünkü bir süredir çocuğu olmamış ve Maegor, Aenys'in doğumundan 5 sene sonra dünyaya geliyor... garip...
Aegon Targaryen |#ElCaballeroDeLosSieteReinos 🇪🇸@King_Maegor
Maegor El Cruel Autor: @Lemzy090
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@gaelthebard @SkeptSlav I think she just really valued strength as a warrior for someone that should be king. It is mostly likely the reason she had no problems with aegon being king because he was a powerful warrior. But had problems with aenys because she viewed him as weak and not strong enough.
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@SkeptSlav I thought this too!
She is lowkey a girlboss though & idk if she’s any more misogynistic than the other women around her, but unfortunately she is a toxic boymom who’s happy to demean other women for her son’s sake.
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Visenya Targaryen kinda
trinity (fka @julezeater)@my_that79452
What do you call this phenomenon because I see it happen so much
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