Stephen A. Davis

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Stephen A. Davis

Stephen A. Davis

@FeetForThoughts

Author of a serialised young adult Christian fantasy novel & a thick book on theology | husband | homeschooler & graphic designer | ⛪️ @ https://t.co/54EOQQFkCf

London Katılım Nisan 2009
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Stephen A. Davis
Stephen A. Davis@FeetForThoughts·
@idrisnotes @InspiringPhilos If she was guilty she’d be stoned immediately. An accusation is made and tests are devised to prove or disprove her innocence. She was only stoned if she was found guilty.
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Idris
Idris@idrisnotes·
@FeetForThoughts @InspiringPhilos Why are you leaving the bit where the woman gets stoned to death? 😂 All for a sin she may or may not have committed before she met her husband 😬 That alone is worse than anything found in Islam.
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@idrisnotes @InspiringPhilos Checking if a woman was truly a virgin before marriage is no way comparable to: 1) Being permitted to beat your wives. 2) A woman’s testimony being worth half that of a man’s. 3) Permitting men to rape.
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Idris
Idris@idrisnotes·
@InspiringPhilos I’ll just leave this here. This is a direct command from Jesus according to Christian theology. If someone can find me anything that comes close to this level of barbarism in Islam I’d like to know.
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Stephen A. Davis
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@Masoud171389 @salahudeen33 Then it is stubbornness and arrogance that cause you not to see that Jesus is God. Still haven’t answered my question so I’m not wasting time with you anymore.
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🌙 The Voice of Truth
🌙 The Voice of Truth@Masoud171389·
@FeetForThoughts @salahudeen33 It was mentioned in the verse once that he is a prophet, and another time that he is a messenger… But my friend, do you know what is preventing you from seeing? It is stubbornness and arrogance… As God said: “Indeed, he was stubborn toward Our signs.”
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Salahu
Salahu@salahudeen33·
Muslim : Who Is God? Christian : Jesus Muslim : Is Jesus The Son Of Mary? Christian : Yes Muslim : Who Created Mary? Christian : God. Muslim : Who Is God? Christian: Jesus Muslim : Jesus Is The Begotten Son? Christian : Yes Muslim : Who Is His Father? Christian : God. Muslim : Who Is God? Christian : Jesus. Muslim : Jesus Is A Servant Of God? Christian : Yes Muslim : Jesus Died On The Cross? Christian : Yes Muslim : Who Resurrected Him? Christian : God. Muslim : Is Jesus A Messenger? Christian : Yes Muslim : Who Sent Him? Christian : God. Muslim : Who Is God? Christian : Jesus. Muslim: Did Jesus Worship While On Earth? Christian: Yes Muslim: Whom Did He Worship? Christian: God. Muslim : Who Is God? Christian : Jesus. Muslim : Did God Have A Beginning? Christian : No Muslim: Then Who Was Born On 25 Dec? Christian : Jesus. Muslim : Is Jesus God? Christian : Yes Muslim : Where's God? Christian : In Heaven. Muslim : How Many Gods Are There In Heaven? Christian : Only One God. Muslim : Where's Jesus? Christian : He Is Seated On The Right Hand Of His Father. Muslim : Then How Many Are They In Heaven? Christian : Only One God. Muslim : Then How Many Seats? Christian : One Muslim : Where's Jesus? Christian: Seated Next To God. Muslim : How Are They Seated On One Chair? This Proved That Jesus Is A Messenger Of Allah Not God. And Alhamdulillah We Also Believe In Jesus. We Respect Him As Prophet 💛😍. Only One God In The All World's Allah ♡ ❥©️©️©️
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Charles Tingler
Charles Tingler@CharlesTingler·
You’re undercutting your own position. You say Christ founded a Church, gave authority, instituted Sacraments → how do you know that → you appeal to Scripture You appeal to Scripture to prove the Church → then claim the Church is needed to validate Scripture → circular You say the Church teaches with authority → where is that defined → Scripture You say Sacraments were instituted by Christ → how do you identify which ones and what they do → Scripture You say apostolic authority continues → what text establishes the nature, scope, and transmission of that authority → Scripture So your structure becomes: Scripture tells you there is a Church → you use that to elevate the Church → then use the Church to control Scripture → circular dependence If Scripture is unreliable without the Church → then your proof for the Church collapses, because it comes from Scripture If Scripture is reliable enough to prove the Church → then it already functions as an authority you can read and appeal to You cannot escape this: You must trust Scripture first to even identify → Christ’s commands → the apostles → the Sacraments → the existence of a teaching Church That means your argument does not defeat the Protestant position → it presupposes the very thing you’re trying to subordinate
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Joe McBride
Joe McBride@McBrideLawNYC·
The idea that Christ left a Book with no Saints, no Sacraments, and no Church to teach it is low-IQ Protestant nonsense. Jesus didn’t write Scripture. Not one line. He built a Church, gave men authority, instituted Sacraments, and ordered them to teach in His name.
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Stephen A. Davis
Stephen A. Davis@FeetForThoughts·
You haven’t answered my question lol. You’ve avoided it. I answered your question. You asked me to name a prophet. I did. You responded with a ? So I asked you a question. You still haven’t answered. And of course I know why, because you have no answer if you admit that Jesus is a prophet who spoke of Father, Son and Holy Spirit. You just don’t want to concede that your challenge was met and so you’re stalling by trying to deflect the question back to me. So I’ll ask you one last time & then I think we’re done here because your silence will have proven my point. Is Jesus a prophet, yes or no?
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🌙 The Voice of Truth
🌙 The Voice of Truth@Masoud171389·
@FeetForThoughts @salahudeen33 2️⃣ Ignoring our questions is annoying, so I tried to do the opposite of what you are doing. I answer your questions and I do not ignore them. If you see the discussion as a competition, then you are mistaken. We are searching for the truth from within the holy scriptures
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🌙 The Voice of Truth
🌙 The Voice of Truth@Masoud171389·
@FeetForThoughts @salahudeen33 1️⃣ Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Messenger of Allah and the Seal of the Prophets.” (Qur’an 33:40) You say: “Give me one verse that says Muhammad is a prophet.” Don’t worry, I will give you two. ⬇️
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🌙 The Voice of Truth
🌙 The Voice of Truth@Masoud171389·
@FeetForThoughts @salahudeen33 “Good, you said Jesus multiple times. Now give me just one clear verse where Jesus explicitly said: ‘I am God’ or ‘Worship me’ or ‘God is three persons (the Trinity).’”🤷🏻
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Stephen A. Davis
Stephen A. Davis@FeetForThoughts·
@Masoud171389 @salahudeen33 It’s not either / or in Christianity, it’s both / and. You asked for a prophet who talks about God as Father, Son and Holy Spirit. I said, Jesus. You gave a question mark. So I’m asking you, is Jesus a prophet?
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🌙 The Voice of Truth
🌙 The Voice of Truth@Masoud171389·
@FeetForThoughts @salahudeen33 I mentioned that I was asking you 😄 and you didn’t answer. Now you’re the one asking me? I don’t know how that happened. Tell us, is he a prophet or God? And what does your Bible say about that?
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🌙 The Voice of Truth@Masoud171389·
@FeetForThoughts @salahudeen33 “Alright then, so you agree to that. Please, give me the name of just one prophet in the Bible who clearly declared and believed that God is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.”🤔
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Stephen A. Davis@FeetForThoughts·
Where do agents regularly speak AS God? Those who speak for him in the Bible say “Declares the Lord” or “Thus says the Lord.” The Angel receives sacrifices. The Angel has the name of Yahweh in him. The Angel is identified as the Holy Spirit in Isaiah and as Jesus in Jude. People who saw the Angel claimed they had seen God face to face. And of course there is this verse from Genesis 48: And he blessed Joseph and said, “The God before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac walked, the God who has been my shepherd all my life long to this day, the angel who has redeemed me from all evil, bless the boys” — Genesis 48:15-16
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🪨@unknownbyu33·
@FeetForThoughts @salahudeen33 Why equate the Angel of Yahweh with Yahweh Himself, when agents regularly speak for God? And if third-person language proves two Yahwehs, wouldn’t that create multiple Yahwehs elsewhere too?
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Stephen A. Davis@FeetForThoughts·
@unknownbyu33 @salahudeen33 It’s not normal Hebrew style otherwise you would see it all over the place. You don’t. Amos 4:11 is referencing back to Genesis 19. If it is as common as you claim, you should be able to find multiple references like the two above.
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🪨@unknownbyu33·
@FeetForThoughts @salahudeen33 Amos 4:11 actually weakens your argument. God is speaking and refers to Himself in the third person as when God overthrew…’ No one reads that as two Gods. It’s normal Hebrew style, not evidence of multiple Yahwehs. You’re accepting it from one chapter and not the other?
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Stephen A. Davis@FeetForThoughts·
@unknownbyu33 @salahudeen33 The repetition would be redundant if the Lord is simply raining fire & brimstone. It would simply read “The Lord rained fire from heaven.” Neither does the verse need to show “interaction.”
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🪨@unknownbyu33·
@FeetForThoughts @salahudeen33 The verse in Genesis shows no clear interaction between two Yahwehs. It’s describing judgment coming from above. If someone is being rained on, they’re below… “From the LORD out of heaven clarifies the source, not a second person.
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Stephen A. Davis@FeetForThoughts·
@unknownbyu33 @salahudeen33 What you see in Zechariah 3:2 to is the Angel of Yahweh as the one Joshua is standing before and then Yahweh speaking in the third person. Clearly this is how Second Temple Jews saw it which is why we have so many writings trying to explain the second Yahweh figure.
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🪨@unknownbyu33·
@FeetForThoughts @salahudeen33 This literary style fits hebrew patterns of describing when a subject is repeated for emphasis and clarity especially when distinguishing the source from the target. We see this same style in Zechariah 3:2. God referring to himself in 3rd person doesn’t constitute separation.
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