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@HanaHoops Watch your mouth before I crush those dirty ass kids in your banner.
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@mygoatwardell @EVERYONEATHEEND @30sLegacy quite literally the opposite but have fun watching a team with 0 players that can dribble for the 4th straight year
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@FloaterMerchant @EVERYONEATHEEND @30sLegacy Again that doesn’t matter their point guard height. Wings are a lot harder to trade for and sign in fa, there are so many guards in fa that can run some kind of offense.
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@mygoatwardell @EVERYONEATHEEND @30sLegacy well they dont have the skill to play point guard either and u want a 40 year old steph to be the only point guard and creator on the team
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@FloaterMerchant @EVERYONEATHEEND @30sLegacy It doesn’t matter if they play “wing” they don’t have the size or the skill to play wing.
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@mygoatwardell @EVERYONEATHEEND @30sLegacy gp2 plays as a wing
will plays as a wing
moody plays as a wing and is out
seth is a free agent and wont be returning
melton is a free agent and wont be returning
we have 0 real point guards outside of steph
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@FloaterMerchant @EVERYONEATHEEND @30sLegacy Last roster it was
Steph
Podz
Will
Melt
Moody
Seth
Gp2
Everyone here besides moody are under 6’5 and even if gp2 plays wing with his athletic decline he’s unable to defend even 20 minutes a game. I don’t need another guard heavy roster around Steph get me wings who can defend.
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@EVERYONEATHEEND @30sLegacy The entire roster are guards our only wing would be gui santos next season and no wings don’t win basketball unless we wanna tank next season.
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@30sLegacy i dont even care anymore i just hope they dont draft ament or lopez
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@Sageof6turtles it works bc hes an opportunistic off ball demon while a non superstar isolation specialist with no fear is just gonna throw the game most of the time
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@Neshincognito Still had more shooters than Kd did in 2014 and Kd still shot better than him
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KD on here twice with 1950s spacing . Just imagine how higher if he had a Klay Thompson level shooter
Basketball University@UofBasketball
Highest TS% relative to league average among 30+ PPG seasons in the last 35 years… SGA is on a special run
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@MoggedByTatum @elitexeets i was being half serious lol unfortunate doe cuz i truly believe 21 was a much superior player to his 22 version
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@FloaterMerchant @elitexeets Yeah very much does not compare to the sample size in 16 and 22 though. Much tougher.
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2016 Steph vs. 2022 Steph:
Who was the better player?
When you compare 2016 Steph vs 2022 Steph, it basically becomes a debate between the highest offensive apex ever vs the more resilient and scalable playoff offensive engine.
2016 Steph clears 2022 pretty comfortably in raw regular season impact:
+7.7 DPM vs +4.8
+7.0 RAPM vs +6.2
+6.4 ORAPM vs +5.1
Even in the playoffs, while injured, the movement scoring profile was still stronger overall, but the creation profile wasn’t quite.
OffScreen:
2016 — 1.32 PPP (+.30 rPPP)
2022 — 1.13 PPP (+.17 rPPP)
Handoff:
2016 — 1.47 PPP (+.65 rPPP)
2022 — 1.22 PPP (+.31 rPPP)
Spot Up:
2016 — 1.10 PPP (+.12 rPPP)
2022 — 1.28 PPP (+.25 rPPP)
Isolation:
2016 — 1.14 PPP (+.29 rPPP)
2022 — 1.13 PPP (+.21 rPPP)
PNR Handler:
2016 — .70 PPP (-.13 rPPP)
2022 — .97 PPP (+.10 rPPP)
Transition:
2016 — 1.03 PPP (-.07 rPPP)
2022 — 1.11 PPP (-.01 rPPP)
Overall creation frequency:
2016 — 45.8%
2022 — 46.3%
Defensively, 2016 Steph also generated more events:
Higher STL%
Higher STOP%
Higher rFTOV
More deflections/activity
But once you compare the actual playoff environments and on-ball resiliency, 2022 gains ground fast.
2016 playoff defenses faced:
Rockets — 18th DRTG
Blazers — 20th DRTG
Thunder — 6th DRTG
Cavs — 10th DRTG
2022 playoff defenses faced:
Nuggets — 15th DRTG
Grizzlies — 6th DRTG
Mavericks — 7th DRTG post-trade deadline defense
Celtics — 1st DRTG
And against those defenses, 2022 Steph’s on-ball creation translated much cleaner:
Lower cTOV%
Better AST:TOV
+8.4 playoff ON/OFF in 2022 vs -1.3 in 2016
2022 playoffs:
28.6 PTS/75 on 60.6 TS%
+5.0 adj rTS%
Vs Boston:
31.2 PTS/75 on 62.6 TS%
Vs Denver:
33.5 PTS/75 on 64.1 TS%
Then the super clutch numbers:
2016:
5 super clutch shots
20.0 super clutch eFG%
-12.2 super clutch rEFG
2022:
4 super clutch shots
50.0 super clutch eFG%
+3.4 super clutch rEFG
2016 Steph probably still had the highest pure offensive apex ever because the movement gravity and regular season pressure completely shattered defensive structure.
But 2022 Steph translated more cleanly against elite postseason defenses while maintaining elite efficiency, stronger PNR creation, better turnover economy, stronger playoff portability, better lineup scalability, and much stronger super clutch efficiency.
So while 2016 Steph probably had the higher pure offensive ceiling, I lean 2022 Steph overall.
𝙈𝘽𝙏🍀@MoggedByTatum
2012 LeBron vs. 2018 LeBron: Who was the better player? 2012 LeBron vs 2018 LeBron is basically peak two-way dominance vs peak offensive engine dominance. REGULAR SEASON ▫️2012: 28.2 PTS / 7.1 REB / 6.3 AST per 75 60.3 TS% +7.6 rTS Impact: +8.4 DPM +9.2 RAPM +3.3 DRAPM +1.5 D-DPM Team impact: +10.1 on-court net +14.1 on/off +4.7 defensive on-court Defense: 2.6 STL/100 3.6 STOP% +2.3 defensive TS value +0.9 defensive TOV value ▫️2018: 27.4 PTS / 8.1 REB / 8.7 AST per 75 62.5 TS% +6.9 rTS Impact: +7.0 DPM +8.0 RAPM +8.0 ORAPM near-neutral DRAPM Team impact: +1.5 on-court net +3.2 on/off -4.7 defensive on-court Creation: 22.4 ASTPTS/75 57% creation frequency 54% TOV adjusted assist eFG 2018 clearly had the larger offensive burden + more advanced shotmaking/playmaking package. PLAYOFFS ▫️2012 PLAYOFFS: 28.5 PTS / 9.2 REB / 5.3 AST per 75 57.6 TS% +6.5 rTS +10.0 adj rORTG -4.3 adj rDRTG Playoff on/off: +25.5 (low leverage removed) PLAYOFF SHOT PROFILE: 75.4% rim 43.6% short mid 40.9% long mid NYK: 30.6 / 9.2 / 5.8 per 75 62.1 TS% Context: #5 defense Tyson Chandler DPOY elite paint defense IND: 30.4 / 8.4 / 5.0 per 75 57.1 TS% Context: #9 defense Hibbert anchor extremely physical frontcourt Bosh injured which killed Miami spacing BOS: 29.4 / 10.9 / 5.2 per 75 55.8 TS% Context: #2 defense KG anchor elite help defense one of best playoff defenses of era Game 6: 45/15/5 in arguably the greatest pressure game ever. OKC: 25.9 / 8.6 / 5.1 per 75 58.8 TS% Context: young dynasty core elite athleticism everywhere top 10 defense And through the ENTIRE run: near DPOY defense elite weakside rim protection elite transition defense elite switchability ▫️2018 PLAYOFFS: 31.4 PTS / 8.4 REB / 8.3 AST per 75 61.9 TS% +7.7 rTS +5.2 TS add Playoff on/off: +9.9 (low leverage removed) PLAYOFF SHOT PROFILE: 36.7% from 3 46.5% long mid Efficiency: 99th percentile handler efficiency 82nd percentile isolation 90th percentile post scoring 91st percentile transition scoring IND: 32.2 / 9.5 / 7.7 per 75 65.5 TS% Context: #12 defense Cavs looked dysfunctional LeBron creating every advantage TOR: 32.2 / 7.2 / 10.6 per 75 62.8 TS% Context: #5 defense elite transition/help structure LeBron shredded them anyway BOS: 31.6 / 9.0 / 9.1 per 75 61 TS% Context: #1 defense post ASB elite switching scheme Horford + Smart + Tatum defensive core And offensively this was probably his peak: 22.4 ASTPTS/75 57% creation frequency 46% playoff on-ball load But defensively: -4.2 playoff defensive on-court much lower engagement/activity near neutral impact defensively Context matters 2018 CLE had: horrible perimeter defense no consistent secondary creator constant lineup changes complete offensive dependency on LeBron 2012 MIA had: better infrastructure Wade no longer at absolute peak but still very good better defensive personnel but Bosh dealing with an injury BUT: 2012 LeBron was also the main reason Miami became historically dominant defensively. So after everything the: RS metrics PS metrics playoff matchup stats opponent defenses net ratings offensive burden defensive impact shot profile data 2018 LeBron probably reached the higher offensive peak. 2012 LeBron reached the higher overall basketball peak because the offense stayed elite while the defense was still legitimately near DPOY level throughout the entire run.
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@buklau213 @Mo3Muse tbf to boogie he shouldn’t have even been on the court, guy was literally playing on a torn quad lol
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@FloaterMerchant @Mo3Muse Easily, the amount of bums on that roster was insane. Jerebko, Cook, McKinnie, the corpse of Boogie/Bogut 🤣
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The pre KD warriors bench would get exposed crazy
TG@TommyGunnNBA
People keep saying the league keeps getting better but the pre-KD Warriors teams are getting either of these teams outta here in quick fashion lmao
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@elitexeets I think based on regular season I’d go 16’ curry sadly we don’t have a playoff run from that season to truly have both season peaks.
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I agree in spirit here, and I’m a Cam guy saying this, but we can’t not act like Curry Jokic Nash aren’t GOATed functional athleticism guys in at least some way.
pablo@lifeofpablo735
mike schmitz said recently that prospects ceilings are now more determined by their non athletic skills. their IQ, feel, processing speed. the things you can’t teach. some of the all time greats have blown past their ceiling by maximizing these other skills (jokic, nash, curry)
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@FloaterMerchant how do you think this version of Bronze fits GSW all optics / narrative / slop aside?
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They went .75/5 at best bra
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