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@Fonz476again

Christian. Husband. Father. 🇺🇸✝️

United States Katılım Eylül 2023
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@Introvert314 I also refuse to engage with rage bait accounts from south asia and Nigeria
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Lisa@Introvert314·
x.com/i/status/20440… I am refusing to interact with these people. But if you want to see someone getting owned in the comments by all the people who have been adopted, follow that link. My father is someone who was born to a teenager and was adopted. Had his mother had an abortion my siblings and I wouldn't be here, my daughter, my nephews, and my niece wouldn't be here. I know people who grew up in foster care, it was hard for them but they made it and have good lives now. I know many people raised by their natural parents who were abused in unspeakable ways. They were healed through Jesus and have good lives now. You don't get to kill people because they might suffer in life. God designed them for a reason. They have purpose. Pro-abortionists have been programmed so thoroughly to hate pregnancy that they now see it as a disease. The only true disease here is the one rotting what's left of their minds.
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Hot fucking take: Forcing birth just to dump a baby into adoption is way more unethical than having an abortion.

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Horny and Vegan@Veganandhorny69·
@Fonz476again @DatRatio64 @KatelynTweeter Then tell me why I wasn’t able to get one after the abortion ban in my state? I was miscarrying, and showed signs of hemorrhage, but because it was happening after five weeks, they could not remove it and I had to go home and bleed out on my own.
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Katelyn James
Katelyn James@KatelynTweeter·
Abortion is not a right, it's a wrong.
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@BillDoesStuff2 @mama_bear71 Prove to me that you can read, and show me where I said anything about "born human"?
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William S.@BillDoesStuff2·
@Fonz476again @mama_bear71 It is not a "born human" yet, retard. There's the difference. It doesn't have "rights". The mother does though and you cult would love to squash that right.
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@BillDoesStuff2 @mama_bear71 It doesn't require a person, but a human being. Federal Law (18 U.S.C. § 1111) Murder is defined as: “the unlawful killing of a human being with malice aforethought.” Historically & in most U.S. jurisdictions that follow it, murder is the unlawful killing of a human being
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William S.@BillDoesStuff2·
@mama_bear71 No, it's not murder, retard. You actually have a "person" out of the womb for that to be true.
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DatRatio64@DatRatio64·
@mama_bear71 "Make it make sense". Abortion care is also used in medical emergencies like ectopic pregnancy, sepsis and incomplete miscarriage. Acting like every case is the same just shows ignorance of basic medicine.
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@TheSurvivors_US @UCSF It's the fundamental question, is the fetus a human being or not. If it's not, then abortion is the woman's choice and should be allowed until birth. If the fetus is a human being, then abortion is a violation of the right to life (the right to not be killed) of the fetus.
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@Unplanned_Good @HannahStrege Fair, but you need to avoid ambiguous language like " isn't able to parent". The exact meaning of that needs to be clearly stated. Much like the abortion bans that allow for "health of the mother", yet don't explicitly define it.
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Unplanned Good@Unplanned_Good·
@HannahStrege Yes, we agree. This is why we believe that if a woman isn’t able to parent, she deserves to know that there is another option: adoption. Adoption today can be a healthy and loving decision for everyone.
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Hannah Strege, LSW@HannahStrege·
Before we create life, freeze life, sell genetic material, or end life we should ask one question: Is this in the best interest of the child or just the desires of adults?
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@AmazingA2117 @DatRatio64 @KatelynTweeter And again, The core of the conversation is whether or not the fetus is a human being. If the fetus is a human being, then we have a conflict of rights that needs to be figured out. If the fetus is not a human being then the claim to bodily autonomy is irrelevant.
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@AmazingA2117 @DatRatio64 @KatelynTweeter You're also conflating Biological/natural dependency vs. artificial imposition. Also the difference in active ending vs. passive withdrawal/refusal.
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@AmazingA2117 @DatRatio64 @KatelynTweeter Bodily autonomy is a strong, presumptive right, but it is not absolute and is routinely limited in situations where exercising it would directly or foreseeably cause the death of another innocent person, or where society judges the harm to life outweighs the intrusion on autonomy
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@AmazingA2117 @DatRatio64 @KatelynTweeter You're partially correct. It does have limits, but none of what you provide even applies to the right to life. The right to life is also known as the right to not be killed. Rights do not form a clean hierarchy with one always trumping another.
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Amanda@AmazingA2117·
@Fonz476again @DatRatio64 @KatelynTweeter Sorry, but the right to life actually has limitations. You can’t force someone to save another through organ or blood donation - even if it means that person dies. And you can’t take parts of a deceased body without permission. Bodily autonomy trumps life.
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@AmazingA2117 @DatRatio64 @KatelynTweeter Seatbelt/helmet laws. Involuntary medical or psychiatric holds. Age-based restrictions on body modifications like tattoos. And numerous other things. Bodily autonomy is not absolute in any real-world legal or ethical system.
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@AmazingA2117 @DatRatio64 @KatelynTweeter It's literally not. We restrict bodily autonomy all of the time. Members of the military are told when they can or can't go to the bathroom, eat, sleep, they can't move without permission. Mandatory drug tests in the workplace. Vaccine schedule for children to attend school 👇
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@Veganandhorny69 @DatRatio64 @KatelynTweeter Dr. Neville Sender, founder of an abortion clinic: “We know that it is killing, but the states permit killing under certain circumstances." “Dr. Smith” (pseudonym for an abortionist, quoted in a collection of provider statements): “Abortion is killing the fetus.”
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@Veganandhorny69 @DatRatio64 @KatelynTweeter Faye Wattleton, President of Planned Parenthood “I think we have deluded ourselves into believing that people don't know that abortion is killing". Ron Fitzsimmons, former President of the National Coalition of Abortion Providers: “It [abortion] is a form of killing" 👇
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@AmazingA2117 @DatRatio64 @KatelynTweeter Your side has to make it about "bodily autonomy" because that's all they have. They can't contend with the fetus as a human being and have to dodge and redirect the conversation onto something else. Bodily autonomy is irrelevant to the core argument of abortion.
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@AmazingA2117 @DatRatio64 @KatelynTweeter Correct, bodily autonomy is a right but not an absolute right. Abortion isn't about "bodily autonomy". If the fetus isn't a human being, then abortion is perfectly fine. If the fetus is a human being, then it's a violation of the inherent right to life. That is the argument
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