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@PhantoMz202 pretty sure beerus whispered to whis not to tell this information to the others in rof

What a beautiful RETCON 💙

@PhyGTGoku im pretty sure ss4 goku was stronger than super 17 at the start of the fight, because after the complete idiocy that is the ki blast spam and x10 kamehameha goku was still able to get super 17 in a hold for a while, which implies his power isnt too far off from super 17s

Super 17 Stupid/Questionable -17 has trackable Ki? -Goku sees 17 absorb energy and thinks a 10x Kamehameha would hurt him -17 upscale -Stupid ass lines Good -Myuu betrays Gero -Climax was fun -17 emotional battles were interesting -Seamless transition into the next arc

@Silmatuu its obvious hes someone whos trying to smear a bad rep on bc fans because thats the worst ragebait ive ever seen

now how did we get island level off this

@DrPritch80 too early for prime battle cell and transforming vegeta

If it is Android/Cell Saga, a very interesting list of possible EZAs and SEZAs are in play.

@kokoakohii winstreak so generational a world class player had to step in

reminder that isagi yoichi hasn't lost a football match since WORLD 5 in the SECOND SELECTION. which was JULY 2020... this might change tomorrow.

"The eyes of a killer" and it's the cutest little girl you've ever seen

@PhyGTGoku base goku is at LEAST 400 times weaker than ss4 goku and somehow he just blows a hole through super 17 whos at his strongest here whats next, base goku easily tanking attacks that wipe his ss4 version out of existence?

This scene is pretty cool, i like how 17 is defeated. Though they could have showed the Kamehameha from different angles if they were gonna replay it, like they did in DBS.

@PhyGTGoku this arc singlehandedly cut gt gokus iq and biq in half

You’ve been fighting like that your whole life

@PhyGTGoku either super 17 or black star dragon ball saga (before they get to m2)

Whoever said Super 17 is the worst GT arc lied

@Frederickedber2 no

You...AGAIN?! YOU'RE 100% NOW YOU DUMB FUCK

@More_Jordys if i had to answer the closest one is ginyu goku because thats literally gokus body and the attire is practically unchanged besides the scouter

WAIT I KNOW THIS ONE IT’S A TRICK QUESTION

@AshuraFR69 did you get godku

@Frederickedber2 He was at 55% before I start summoninh on Goku's banner, so it means I got him 4 FUCKING times. So no my steak is NOT juicy

@AshuraFR69 also why didnt you save any stones

@AshuraFR69 my steak too juicy my lobster too buttery

@PhyGTGoku considering how stupidly strong 17 got in dbs this doesnt seem all that far fetched in hindsight, which is nuts

Umm what lol

@FamousDamien nah the 15-1 turn based mission was rng hell frontier goku makes that mission 10 times easier

@Frederickedber2 the turn based mission weren’t even tough. It’s very easily WITH the Ginyu force as well 😭. Except again Ginyu can do it turn 1 while for Goku you flat out need to go out of your way just to transform with him let alone lose allies for buffs

i hard agree. I had Namek Goku do NOTHING even after using him post LR awakening. Ginyu has been goated in those frontier stages while we are on this topic, shoutout to manga Frieza & STR Krillin. They also have been huge mvps in some runs

@adrians61101651 @FamousDamien thats gotta be cap, pre super ss goku could tank a super from node 24 int frieza, no way ginyu can eat that and live

@Frederickedber2 @FamousDamien He tanks better unconditionally, has super effective hits, and doesn’t need to lose an ally to be great. He also smokes Node 20 and all nodes, while Goku can get caught against INT bosses.

@Nicers62 @FamousDamien goku only takes a single turn to transform, and allies arent really an important factor when goku can just solo the boss himself plus he gets buffs per lost ally in frontier

@Frederickedber2 @FamousDamien Ginyu’s a lot better turn 1 and you can have 2 allies next to him transformed unlike goku

@FamousDamien only argument i see about ginyu being better is that hes better turn 1 but goku only takes a single turn to transform if you put krillin in first slot ive tested this goku in those turn based missions and his damage output is so much better than ginyus hes better defensively too

@Frederickedber2 except Ginyu can be good turn 1 lol

@IsaOfTheIsle98 atleast he wont be brushing his hair anymore every 2 minutes

how did you make Super 17 even uglier...