Milk
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Milk
@FullFatMilky
Belief in the Mantle of Responsibility - Life is in our hands The Machine God
Katılım Şubat 2015
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@dogeinquirer @Dave82003914 @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc I want alliances, I want strength, I want cooperation and joy for our shared origins. Not some weird exploitative narcissism thats like both self agrandising and destructive.
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@FullFatMilky @Dave82003914 @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc Russia is a failed state. After the war ends, they will be down 2 million+ soldiers & 80% of their armored force. Europe can easily hold their own. We want Europe to be strong. That is why we give a shit. We don't want to see our cousins across the ocean to be weak.
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"Europe is, I would argue, particularly now, but I would argue even without Trump...a better place than the United States of America."
"You don't even have dryers... you're still using a hanging line."
@campbellclaret and @Timodc spar over Europe vs. the U.S.
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@dogeinquirer @Dave82003914 @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc Poor people, I really feel bad for their families and the people of Ukraine. I'm so tired of being told to 'be thankful' by people who have nothing to do with it or Europe purely because of history. Thats the problem. Not friendship or brother or respect, those are there.
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Back to books - Sweden's schools give up digital learning bbc.in/41CvrFS
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@dogeinquirer @Dave82003914 @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc Absolutely, Europe needs to strengthen its own military might. We can agree on that for certain. I wouldn't say Russia is defeated though but hey-ho
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@FullFatMilky @Dave82003914 @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc The US is no longer needed in NATO. Russia has been defeated in Ukraine by the brave soldiers. The risk of Russian invasion into Europe no longer exists. The EU needs to take its security into its own hands while the US rebuilds and focuses on the Pacific theater.
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@Dave82003914 @dogeinquirer @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc Next time bring a napkin if you are going to brown nose so hard.
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@dogeinquirer @Dave82003914 @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc Absolutely, even more so the point. You take Europe out the equation and those forces close together don't mix.
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@Dave82003914 @FullFatMilky @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc I really don't think so. I think people too often forget just how powerful the Soviet Union was. They had extraordinary military might. So much so that Russia and a lot of the world is still relying on their relics today. From armored vehicles to space flight.
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@FullFatMilky @dogeinquirer @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc Myself and my fathers generation are the only ones who've never had to go to war thanks to the US.
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@Dave82003914 @dogeinquirer @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc Congratulations. Those who served.
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@FullFatMilky @dogeinquirer @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc What about the Americans in factories, docks, ship builders, farmers, merchant seaman who dodged torpedoes to feed us. Have some humility ffs 😠
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@dogeinquirer @Dave82003914 @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc By this logic the US and USSR would be piles of ash. Chill hotshot.
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@FullFatMilky @Dave82003914 @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc The Soviet end goal was global communism. If it weren't for the US' steadfast determination on fighting Communism, I'll say it again, most if not all of Europe would have fallen to them. Today they would still be recovering like the Balkan states are today. Please read a book.
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@Dave82003914 @dogeinquirer @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc The only people who deserve that thanks are those who served
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@FullFatMilky @dogeinquirer @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc I'd just rather you said thank you and went on your way 😂
GIF
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@dogeinquirer @Dave82003914 @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc And then once that was done the US would have to do that. So yes, Europe was in fact a buffer state and kept the peace between the two. Because looking at the cuban missile crisis you can see what would happen without it.
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@FullFatMilky @Dave82003914 @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc If it wasn't for the US, Europe and the UK included would have had to fight the Soviets. YES FIGHT. On their own. You would have become a satellite state like Turkmenistan or Georgia. Eventually having to fight for your independence until the dissolution.
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@dogeinquirer @Dave82003914 @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc Europe was a buffer 'state'. A cold-war no-mans-land. It was to the American financial and political advantage to keep Europeans, particularly central Europeans, dependent on US aid and defense. It was also to the US advantage to project power through this.
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@FullFatMilky @Dave82003914 @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc Truman doctrine. Literally named after our president. We stabilized the European economy, prevented political collapse and established the start of the military alliance known today as NATO. The US nuclear umbrella was a major factor and remains.
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@Dave82003914 @dogeinquirer @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc The 80 years of security is great. But don't act like it isn't leverage. None of this is some lovey dovey niceties package. Its global influence. They were threatened by Russia so they used Europe as a barrier and planted soldiers there to hold sway.
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@FullFatMilky @dogeinquirer @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc Europe never appreciate the British for it and they certainly don't appreciate the security that the US has supplied for the las 80 years. It's almost like they're ashamed of theirown capitulation.
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@dogeinquirer @Dave82003914 @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc Same, because we can do that here
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@FullFatMilky @Dave82003914 @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc I need to shoot some guns and drink a beer.
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@Dave82003914 @dogeinquirer @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc Pffft. Oh yea sorry let me bow down and pray because they had to literally a fight a war over what we did in a parliament vote.
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@FullFatMilky @dogeinquirer @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc The US didn't have the means back then, but they caught up pretty quick or maybe you forgot the civil war that ended it.
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@Dave82003914 @dogeinquirer @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc No one ever said Europe didn't appreciate America's contribution. They are tired of having it rammed down their throats by the measly remnants of a god tier generation.
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@dogeinquirer @Dave82003914 @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc People tell you to fuck yourselves because of this self masturbatory gloating that ignores the sacrifice and horrors endured by the locals
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@Dave82003914 @FullFatMilky @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc That's the thing. All we would like is a little appreciation for being the singular reason you and Europe exist. Instead we get told to go fuck ourselves. Not only that, we rebuild the entire continent along with Japan.
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@Dave82003914 @dogeinquirer @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc Right we're getting somewhere. The British did what the supposedly best country in the world refused to do. And paid the price massively.
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@FullFatMilky @dogeinquirer @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc The British stopped it, not Europeans 👍
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@Dave82003914 @dogeinquirer @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc Its a statement. When you shift a goalpost to fit your own ideas you forget entire swathes of millions dead for absolutely no reason simply because it doesn't fit into an extremely narrow framing.
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@FullFatMilky @dogeinquirer @BulwarkOnline @campbellclaret @Timodc Your whataboutary skills are impressive 😂
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