Gulab Jamun

@Aptwincities VIZAG is a Super Beautiful City. With the Kind of Investments n Support it had Git from Centre n STATE Vizag Growth is Very Marginally Higher as Compared to Vijayawada. If Vijayawada had that Investments n Govt Support VJA Would have been atleast 3 Times Bigger than Vizag by now.

Muncipality is a construct for governance, Not every region needs to be dense shit hole to access water lifted from 100’s of kms & basic amenities limited by geography. Economic regions do not care about urban or rural construct, they grow if govts has basic sense.

@KanojiaPJ Most STUPID Post. Are they Doing Business to Serve Customers and Make Profits or Simply Denigrate or Demean the Culture of Hindus.

I am saying this again, India is no longer a country for free and fair business, nor a land of creative freedom. You invest your hard-earned money to build something from scratch, and suddenly 2-rupee Bajrang Dal goons show up at your doorstep to shut it down, just because you try to create a neutral space or say something that doesn’t fit their politics. The attacks on Piyush Bansal and Namita Thapar will push a whole generation of entrepreneurs to leave India. Economic growth depends on a strong ecosystem, and when people don’t feel safe to build or speak, why would anyone stay? On one side, Hindutva goons. On the other, what does the government offer? High taxes, constant Income Tax and ED notices, harassment of the very people trying to create jobs and value. And let’s be clear, this doesn’t happen without political patronage. BJP cannot deny that these mobs are part of the ecosystem that benefits them. You build something, and one day 100 unemployed goons can walk in and destroy it. Is this the environment we want for business and innovation?

@y0s3pu @Nandirudrudu OK. As you have made up your Mind it could be the same case here. Anyhow it was a nice conversation. Thanks.

@GJ16002 @Nandirudrudu Okay.. Sure. Looks like you have made up your mind. And that’s okay

Look at the total income of Telangana region here and Andhra region. And look at the total GDP after bifurcation. We can clearly see who got benefited from United AP. United AP is a big wealth transfer project from AP to TG. And the fault of Telugu unity emotional fools.

@y0s3pu @Nandirudrudu Nothing Solid in it bcs all Development Took Place in HYD n to some Extent in Rest of TG. Nowhere in India did u see this Kind of LOPSIDED Development as Happened in United AP MH had MUM,Pune,Nagpur,ABD GJ had AMD,Baroda,Surat Pre 1990 TG/HYD was Poor on many Indicators as to AP

The purpose of my original response and later was not to focus on CBN. But that the wealth transfer did not happen because of united AP emotional fools. It had solid reasons. As well, there is sound justification to CBN actions even if in hindsight they may have other effects. I personally largely reject grievance politics because they don’t solve problems but actually perpetuate them or create new problems. The problem I have with this discussion is shifting goalposts without acknowledging or engaging honestly with my points.

@y0s3pu @Nandirudrudu Good analysis but not with Proper Perspective CBN n other AP Rulers had Tunnel Vision n Focused on HYD/TG Only at the Peril of Curent AP SriCity was Developed by Cong Govt taking into Consideration Chenai n Bluru but CBN Never thought of it CBN had Bias Against Central AP REGION

I already acknowledged puritanically you are right. But it is flawed based on the various aspects I have already cited. As for comparison with TN, there is no comparison between other cities and Chennai. The entire Bangalore road for example is industrial corridor essentially and south Chennai is IT sector. Most Tamilians therefore either go to Chennai or Bengaluru for jobs. Secondly, the industrial base in Coimbatore has been in the making since pre-Independent era. And much of others experienced a certain continuity since independence. Thirdly, they do not have water consolidation problems to solve. They are also primarily a delta area. The only big river and the dam thereof has already been solved and any other rivers are smaller ones and did not require major engineering marvels. Fourthly, they do not have entrenched regional politics like in AP as they have maintained that continuity in terms of togetherness for a few hundred years now ensuring narrative continuity. This is essential to creating a high trust society. As well, they already had well established port for imports / exports in Chennai meaning there was already an eco system continuing from pre independent era. Also Meaning they had multiple sectors already established and working independently and didn’t require significant structural elements to be created. That is not true for AP. So a number of problems have already been solved in TN that AP has been grappling with for the prior 40 years before 2000. That is why though Chennai was late in the IT race, it actually was able quickly come on par with other cities.

@realshivakumar @Uppalapati__ Totally Wrong Most parts of Krishna&Guntur Dists were not Provided Irrigation Facilities Under British Rule East Krishna/Guntur got Canals bcs Rivers were near n Gravitation enabled Easy Water Flow West Krishna Stil doesnot have Proper Irrigation bcs of Altitude Problem n Neglect

@Uppalapati__ The British invested significantly more in infrastructure—especially large-scale irrigation—in the Krishna and Guntur districts (part of the Krishna Delta) compared to many other districts in the then-Andhra regions under the Madras Presidency.

సమైక్య రాష్ట్రం లో అన్యాయం ఎవరికైనా జరిగింది అంటే అది కృష్ణ గుంటూరు కే. Still people stereotype us

@y0s3pu @Nandirudrudu Interesting Observation but I could not Get your Idea as to Flawed Assessment. I wish u could Elaborate Further in Detail There was Lopsided Devlopment in United AP Look at TN they hav Devlped Coimbatore,Madurai, Tiruchi along with Chennai. That Kind of Dvlpmnt didnt Hapen in AP

You mentioned various indicators but then used a comparison to suggest neglect. That is a flawed assessment. If we take only Bombay and compare its growth to let’s say Uttara Karnataka we can always argue that India prioritised the growth of Bombay. Big cities are necessity to be able to decentralise development. Development is not in spite of the big cities. And on all those indicators that you specified there was a concerted effort by CBN govt to improve the profile of the state. If we do a single dimensional comparison of one city to rest of the state, your assessment is accurate. But developing the infrastructure of a city, to improve its favoured destination status thereby increasing the tax profile of the state is not irrelevant- its existential. I therefore do not believe, the rest of the state was neglected to benefit a city. In some sense though, it was the policy of making of prior 50 years had a more significant causal effect in centralising things in Hyderabad where almost all institutions were concentrated there, meaning rest of the state became untenable for such an accelerated growth. For example, in order to get internet connection (or something like that), the satellites needed to be reserved which was only available in Bangalore. Because central govt offices were present in Hyderabad it was possible to get some of that in Hyderabad as long as you could convince politicians. In Vizag that would have been virtually impossible - both in terms of access to high profile politicians, central institutions and talent availability.

@tejatechie1 Very True n the Main Culprit was TDP n CBN NTR was not for Sole Development of HYD but CBN was totally Inclined towards HYD n TG Only Rest of AP in United AP was of Secondary Interest to CBN n so he did not Construct Pulichintala Project bcs it was Oposed by TG Leaders.YSR Did it

Guntur / Krishna majorly robbed out of development post liberalisation , but no one is ready for that conversation

@AjayChandr41722 @Nandirudrudu If you move from Vja to Kodada u don't find many Industries on the NH but once u Cross Kodada and u see many Industries until HYD. Even Greenery is Better in TG Side than that of AP Side while Travelling from VJA to HYD.

@GJ16002 @Nandirudrudu Rest of TG ha ?? Em undi ra rest of TG lo??

@y0s3pu @Nandirudrudu Provision of Physical Infra, Irrigation Facilities, Educational Institutes, Industries, Increase in GDP, PCI, etc. On all these Indicators TG had Higher Growth Rate than Rest of AP by 2014 Mostly when compared to 1956. And Mostly the Neglect of Rest of AP was Due to CBN Rule.

@GJ16002 @Nandirudrudu What is the definition of development in your estimation?

@y0s3pu @Nandirudrudu But overall it was TDP or otherwise Telangana Development Party and Particularly CBN Who has Impoverished the Present AP by his Sole Focus on Development in HYD n Rest of AP.

It is indeed the biggest wealth transfer from Coastal and Rayalaseema to Telangana region just like the transfer during the Nizams. To blame that on Telugu Unity “fools” is inaccurate. Culture and Identity have no inherent economic benefit which Telangana proponents will soon discover. But they lead to a sense of cohesive unit which thereafter leads to a high trust society. Again a high trust society doesn’t have normalized economic equality at all levels of the society. It is impossible. In my view, it is a failure of policy where socialism and economic protectionism choked the Indian marketplace leading to cronies at the macro economic level and stagnation at the rural level. So when the country eventually opened up, the problems were so entrenched that you could not solve one problem without effecting another. Which essentially led to centralization of resources in the capital area to capitalize on political, cultural, infrastructure and economic advantages in order to sustain economy. If we study the Swarnandhra Pradesh model, the intent of the CBN govt was to make Vizag the economic capital of AP, once Hyderabad had become self-sustaining ecosystem. The intention in my view was that once Hyderabad established itself, the misgivings of Telangana in United AP could be addressed through a combination of using the income to drive regional development while using Vizag to accelerate the transformation of the state into a modern economic powerhouse. But history of course took an alternate course. The state again has fallen into another game of misgivings and it remains to be seen how these problems will be solved eventually. But 2026 is a different reality from 2000. Decentralization is a solvable problem now and I think the govt of AP has taken steps to that end, as a comparative analysis. As well, they have largely solved the problem of water which also gives them a reprieve. While greenfield city such as Amaravathi is definitely great, the people of the state should constantly remind their govt for decentralization to be an ongoing exercise. As AI is taking over though, I hope the state of AP can figure out a way to generate employment and increase income levels in sectors where AI will take a while to dominate.

@RavenStark17 @Tushar86666 Babu Raven, I am not Talking about Resolution in TG/HYD Assembly but Resolutions passed by Municipalities and or Civil Society Orgns. Sodhi makku Cheppe Mundhu Konchamu Gnanamu Penchuko appudu Emaindhi anni. We also know how to Comment. Keep it Civil. Give Respect, Take Respect.

@GJ16002 @Tushar86666 Babu Gulab Jamun, ah resolution pass chesindi ah agreement tarvata. Mundu mana rendu states history chadivaka oste baguntadi emo. Andhra assembly kuda pass chesindi.

The per capita income of Telangana was less than even Rayalaseema in 1955-56. In fact, per capita income of Hyd district (Rangareddy+Hyd) was less than krishna & Guntur districts in fact it was less than national average. The assertion that Hyd was already developed is bogus.

@RavenStark17 @Tushar86666 Because you passed Resolutions for Merger with our State, Andhra. Society in Andhra did not pass such resolutions for Merger with Telangana.

@GJ16002 @Tushar86666 So why did you agree terms with a selfish people like us?

@RavenStark17 @Tushar86666 Actually you were selfish and so did not want any of your Funds to be used in Rest of AP but we did not feel like that in any way.

@GJ16002 @Tushar86666 You violated Gentleman agreement, and it is confirmed by United AP Govts. Trust should be upheld not broken. We also though you as our own, hence joined and believed what you promised to us, only to see it, broken.

@RavenStark17 @Tushar86666 Imag Info states that Andhra Was More Developed Region in 1956 but in 2014 TG Developed over AP on Most Indicators How it Happened if Andhra Politicians were Selfish. We Thought TG People as our Own and did not Cry even when WE were Neglected After u Became Rich u Throwed us OUT

@GJ16002 @Tushar86666 4 gentleman from TG + 4 Gentleman from AP signing a paper.

@RavenStark17 @Tushar86666 Which Gentleman Agreement?

@Tushar86666 @GJ16002 I understand queries of common people not those who day in and out, think negative about TG. Who are they? They know it very well. We are selfish, and you were given what you came with. " You should shameless people who broke gentleman agreement" for division not us.

@RavenStark17 @Tushar86666 Even without Proper Capital we had more Educated People, More Educational Institutes and more people with Skills.

@Tushar86666 @GJ16002 Andhra was deficit state, with no proper capital during merger while Telangana was surplus zone. - I will repeat such statements, if you jump like a acting frog.

@RavenStark17 @Tushar86666 So that Means Rest of TG is a Waste as per your Logic.

@Tushar86666 @GJ16002 Business man comes to profitable cities no matter whether it is large state of Singapore like city country. We are in era of globalisation, where conventional old thinking do not work strictly. It's all about existing advantage + Better policies.

@RavenStark17 @Tushar86666 Except for Vizag no area in AP was Developed in United AP. Vizag got Central Govt Support bcs it had Port and had Mineral Rich Regions around it. Vijayawada was Totally Neglected both by State n Central Govts n so no Development took Place.

@Tushar86666 @GJ16002 I can also say, it was not disaster you, as Vizag and Vijaywada developed a lot. And hyd funds were diverted as told by United AP govt committiess as well. But, so called PCIs etc do not hide our lack of development in districts, farmers suicides. Don't they know TG