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He is disinterested. Watch the 11 games it looks like he is pouting. He doesn’t run up and down the basketball court…he is pedestrian out there. If he was hustling and missing shots and missing blocks and getting beat different story. He is not even positioning himself to get rebounds or stepping up to block shots. Should not get a max contract.

The hardest part of a young contender’s growth is fans wanting 22-year-olds benched instead of developed. Cade, Duren, and Asar need playoff reps now for who #DetroitBasketball wants them to be in years to come. Not everyone sees the same timeline the front office sees.

It is not that he is like all those great players you mentioned who choke in the playoffs. He is not even a great player yet. The great players who choke in the playoffs still scored and had good games. Duren can’t even put together a good game. Let’s be honest he doesn’t even look like he cares or wants to play.

Is Jalen Duren just not a playoff player?

@jjthomas06 Awesome!! Huge stadium and not a bad seat/view in the place for how monstrous it was. Loved how it pushed you out the door as you left.

What did you think of Lions games in the Pontiac Silverdome? 📸Source: retroseasons.com

The pitching mismatch is the story of the night. Shane McClanahan is operating at an ace level: 2.60 ERA across seven starts, including three consecutive scoreless outings. His stuff is electric, command is sharp, and he’s giving the @RaysBaseball exactly what they need in a must-have playoff-style game on the road. On the other side sits a Corbin whose surface numbers (roughly 3.50–4.50 ERA over his last five starts allowing two or fewer runs) are completely masking reality. His xERA sits at a bloated 6.20, screaming imminent regression. The underlying metrics — hard contact, barrel rate, and walk issues — have been papered over by luck and weak contact sequencing that simply will not hold. Toronto’s starter is one bad inning away from exploding, and McClanahan is the perfect pitcher to exploit it. Tampa Bay’s market price sits in the -140 to -150 range, which still undervalues the true gap in starter quality. With McClanahan projected for 6+ innings of dominant baseball and @BlueJays bullpen already taxed, the Rays’ superior pitching depth creates a multi-inning edge that compounds throughout the game. The season series and recent form further tilt the scales: Tampa has owned this matchup when the arms are this disparate. This isn’t a coin-flip road game — it’s a clear SP-driven edge that the market hasn’t fully priced. McClanahan’s recent dominance plus Corbin’s regression clock make the Rays the far more likely winner

McClanahan rolling — 3 straight scoreless starts, elite stuff. Facing a Corbin side whose xERA is sitting at 6.20 with regression written all over it (suppressed surface ERA hiding the truth). This is a clear SP mismatch in favor of Tampa Bay. Market has TB in the -140/-150 range, but the gap in pitcher quality + Corbin’s impending blow-up spot gives us real edge. Strong pitching edge + positive matchup dynamics.

@PlayersChoice_ Love this!!! And so true.

Has anybody seen him?😟

@971theticketxyt I hate this complaining about refs. Like I tell my kids….only losing teams complain about officiating. Just win baby!!!

J.B. Bickerstaff calls out officiating after Game 4 "There's no way that one guy on their team shoots more free throws than our team ... It's interesting, since Kenny [Atkinson] made his comments publicly about us, the whistle's changed in this series." audacy.com/971theticket/s…

@woodwardsports @DetroitKoolAid @DetroitPistons @NBA Do we want to win now?? I love Duren but this post season is Jekyl and Hyde. Can’t stand his lack of positioning and effort. This isn’t a fluke it is 11 games. Maybe time to ship Duren to Milwaukee and some draft picks for Giannis??

The Detroit Pistons lose back-to-back games in Cleveland as the Cavaliers even the series at 2-2 😳 Pistons fans, how are you feeling after Game 4?

@Hockeytown_Mike @Hugeshow I hate complaining about officials…a winning team never does that. Just win baby!!!

@Hugeshow It’s pretty easy to “take over” a game when you’re gifted 15 shots at the line

What a horse manure 2nd half by the Pistons. Duren continues to show he isn’t worth a big contract and Cade not demanding the ball to start the 2nd half is inexcusable. Elite players take over and close out big games like Mitchell did tonight for the Cavs. Game 5 is huge.

@JazdzykMark @Hugeshow He has been unrecognizable for 11 games not just this series.

@Hugeshow Duren is unrecognizable in this series. And Cade with his multiple turnovers last night was awful. Hopefully it changes tomorrow. I trust J.B. will figure it out.

The starting five needs to change. Duren no longer belongs on the floor. We have played now 11 playoff games and he has no energy. His lack of energy feeds the lineup. Cade feeds off that energy and is more involved when Duren isn’t out there. Duren doesn’t hustle and his positioning is terrible. He is way too far under the bucket to get any rebounds or block shots. Duren needs to sit until he gets his head right and shows he wants to be there.

@jhendy420 @UnderdogNBA Used to be. But with NIL and March Madness the college game is much more entertaining. The NBA needs a better commissioner. In his reign they have lost their growth and need better direction.

@GLGamblers @UnderdogNBA college is a far worse product. the eurostep is not traveling. read the rules.

JB Bickerstaff on Game 4 officiating: "It's unacceptable ... ever since we came to Cleveland, the whistle has changed. You know, there's no way that one guy on their team shoots more free throws than our team." Donovan Mitchell FTA - 15 Pistons FTA - 12

@SleeperPistons Couldn’t agree more. When your bench guys come in and provide so much more energy. He is hurting the lineup right now with his lack of energy. Guy is 20 years old and can’t hustle up and down the court or leave his feet to block shots. He needs to sit for a while.

How can J.B. Bickerstaff possibly justify playing Jalen Duren right now? I’d rather Tolu Smith get minutes at this points that’s how bad he’s playing… #Detroitbasketball

@the_det_times Couldn’t agree more. Lineup changes need to happen.

Paul Reed: 15 PTS 3 REB 13 MIN Jalen Duren: 8 PTS 2 REB 27 MIN

@EverythingxKing It has been driving me crazy…watching Duren in the playoffs. Totally different player and this is no longer a fluke. We have played 11 games and this guy can’t even hustle up and down the court. He positions himself so far under the hoop he has no chance at rebounds.

Jalen Duren's lack of effort is costing the team. Time to stop being a player's coach and actually coach him to sit down. His lazy play, turnovers, and fouls are destroying any chance of winning. #NBA #Pistons

@omarisankofa Might be time to change the starting lineup. We have played 11 games and not sure where Duren is but his head is not on basketball. He is a ghost on the court.

Asked JB about his decision to stick with Duren in the 4th: “You’ve gotta give guys confidence, you’ve gotta give them belief.”

Could not agree more. Had beer in hand at 6:55 pm turned it to NBC and no f**ing Pistons. Come on man 7:00 pm was the best possible start time. The NBA is all about money and they r ruining it for all of us, sport has never been less popular than it is right now. The regular season is ass but the playoffs r good/great. Do the right thing @NBA !!!!!!!!

Google says Detroit and Cleveland are both in the Eastern time zone. If that’s the case, then why in the fuck is this game starting at 8pm? I am sick and tired of the disrespect for the East Coast with these start times. Idk who I’m yelling at, but I’m yelling. SICK AND TIRED!!

The @Mariners hold a decisive analytical edge in tonight’s 8:10 PM ET matchup at Daikin Park, driven by elite starting pitching, a massive bullpen advantage, and historical dominance that the market has not fully priced in. George Kirby (4-2, 2.94 ERA, 1.10 WHIP, 57.6% ground-ball rate) is the clear superior arm. Over roughly 100 plate appearances against the @astros , he has limited Houston to a microscopic .195 wOBA — an elite mark that neutralizes even a lineup ranked 3rd in wRC+/OPS versus right-handers. Kirby’s ability to generate weak contact and induce ground balls caps Houston’s power potential in a park that can play hitter-friendly. Opposite him is Peter Lambert (2-2, 2.42 ERA), whose strong surface stats come in a dangerously small four-start sample. Regression is highly likely, and the Mariners post the second-highest strikeout rate in baseball against right-handed pitching, giving Lambert little margin for error. The gap widens dramatically once the starters depart. Seattle’s bullpen ranks 3rd in MLB with a 3.55 ERA; Houston’s sits dead-last at 5.57. This late-inning disparity is critical: the Astros are 0-23 when trailing entering the 8th inning and 3-12 when the opponent scores in the first. Seattle’s ability to build and protect leads is overwhelming. At -150, the line still offers value. Models project a fair price closer to -155 to -165, delivering 4–6% positive expected value. The combination of Kirby’s proven H2H mastery, superior relief depth, and favorable situational dynamics creates a high-conviction “Dual Pitch” advantage that should carry Seattle to victory in what projects as a low-scoring contest.

George Kirby dominates a strong pitching duel. SEA has the much better bullpen . HOU is 0-23 when trailing late. Kirby + elite pen should carry it.