Gabe Utseck

@terrifiedone @TXThunderGrump @CameronCorduroy But guess what, in subjects where that holds true and there IS an objective reality (engineering, chemistry) the professors are suddenly far less likely to lean left, even in an environment where ALL their colleagues do so!

@terrifiedone @TXThunderGrump @CameronCorduroy Education is not brainwashing. Brainwashing involves the deliberate omission or misrepresentation of one side of the argument. You’re assuming there’s only one argument and that you’re objectively correct.

facts don't care about your feelings

@terrifiedone @TXThunderGrump @CameronCorduroy Doesnt this support and reinforce the idea that college is just a leftist brainwashing center? That graphic makes it pretty much impossible to argue that the aggregate of each college class is completely unbiased

@TXThunderGrump @CameronCorduroy

@thehoodflorist @philiparola @CameronCorduroy Bro thinks republicans and democrats arent on the same team💀

@philiparola @CameronCorduroy It is true and it hurts republicans significantly more than any other party. This is why republicans want to fully dismantle the dept of education

POV: you make everyone pass an AP Gov test before they can vote

@mjfgamer @MJuice95 @theramblingfool This is an interesting argument. Some people actually argue blue, ironically, gives the highest chance of *individual* survival since if red wins everyone is fucked regardless. I kinda agree, but if you dont even make it past the button then theres really no point

@GUtseck @MJuice95 @theramblingfool If humanity is going to make it, it requires people to act as if their one vote is the deciding factor, even if the math says otherwise.I’d rather die trying to save everyone than live knowing I was part of the reason we failed.

Every Pro-red argument: (1) Cynicism: "It's impossible for blue to win. Don't be suicidal." (2) Narcissism: "There is no downside to pressing red." (3) Changing the hypo: "Babies don't count. That'd be stupid! So there's a blender..." (4) Psychopathy: "Blue pressers deserve to die." (5) General poor analytic reasoning: "If everyone just pressed red!"

@SudlaSteel @theramblingfool I’d actually make the case that the counter argument of “if everyone thought like you…!” Is actually infinitely closer to #5 than my argument is. Cause, like we agree upon, “Everyone wont just, and you cant change their decisions”

@theramblingfool @GUtseck I disagree with them but I think it could warrant its own category. Not believing in individual voting impact I don’t think is necessarily bad analytical thinking and even if you believe it is, imo it feels different from the common “if everyone pressed red” arguments/logic

@soggycinnamons I mean they do it more often than left wingers. But you’re wrong

noticing right wingers push red alot

@aBitterish @MJuice95 @theramblingfool The explanation for that btw

@MJuice95 @GUtseck @theramblingfool this was a nice chat, even if not the most productive. the aggression felt a little undeserved though

@aBitterish @MJuice95 @theramblingfool These people are genuinely dumb. I’ve yet to see an argument against that first sentence. They’re just struggling to reason with downs’ paradox and mistaking it for a fallacy. OP actually refers to it as a fallacy incorrectly, after smugly acting intellectually superior.

@MJuice95 @GUtseck @theramblingfool what are you even talking about, how does my choice once I'm stood in front of the buttons retroactively change the decisions of others and the selfishness point doesn't make sense either, I would push red on behalf of a stranger

@MJuice95 @theramblingfool Ive explained why this argument is demonstrably false and you just keep repeating it. Ironically, “dense” meaning “slow or unable to absorb information” applies to you. Insults typically being a sign of low intelligence support this.

@GUtseck @theramblingfool Yes because you were apart of the problem, holy shit are you dense. The blood would be on your hands and everyone else that pushed red because you ALL could have precented it if you were not selfish fucks. Have a good one dude, dont have kids please.

@MJuice95 @theramblingfool Death would be on my hands when i couldnt have prevented it?

@GUtseck @theramblingfool You are actually brain broken if you cannot see how you would be complicit along with every red voter who thought like you. You would share 1/people who voted red. Deaths would be on your hands. "sure I voted Hitler into power but I was just one vote!".

@MJuice95 @theramblingfool Nor could i have coordinated or attempted to coordinate a widespread effort to hit blue

@MJuice95 @theramblingfool How am i complicit? I couldnt have done anything to save them. Me as an individual voting blue, mathematically, has a zero percent chance to save anyone.

@MJuice95 @theramblingfool If i were to change my thought process, that’s still just…one vote that’s different. I cant affect the other people that think like me in this button scenario. If i could or if we could somehow, you’d sort of have an argument.

@GUtseck @theramblingfool No, the reason you are fighting so hard against this is because you know that people with your logic are bad for society. You can recognize that there are millions of people that think like you do who are pushing red even though they know blue saves babies and mentally ill.

@MJuice95 @theramblingfool I’d be responsible if the outcome were decided by 1 vote. If not, then theres nothing i couldve done, right? I’d just be dead for no reason.

@GUtseck @theramblingfool You would have a hand in their murder for voting red if blue fails. As long as you can live with that.

@whittomd @theramblingfool

@GUtseck @theramblingfool Good grief you're dumb.

@MJuice95 @theramblingfool A vote in a mayoral election, even in a city with 8 million people voting, is literally one thousand times more likely to impact the outcome. And guess what? It still wont! But at least you can coordinate and say “hey everyone get out and vote” and you also wont die for doing so

@GUtseck @theramblingfool You gave the same argument people use not to vote "my vote doesn't matter its just one vote". If you cannot see that then idk what to tell you.

@MJuice95 @theramblingfool Im not cool with it either, but math is math. My blue vote will NOT affect the outcome. Do you know how small of a number 1 out of 4 billion is?

@GUtseck @theramblingfool You need to think of children, babies, people with poor reasoning skills, elderly, and mentally ill people. I am not cool with having half the babies in the world die because selfish people like you think their vote doesn't matter.

@whittomd @theramblingfool Show me mathematically the probability of one singular vote changing the outcome in a scenario with 8 billion voters

@theramblingfool @GUtseck Yeah. No one should vote, since voting doesn't matter. Such a dumb take

@MJuice95 @theramblingfool Oh and voting for mayors wont potentially kill you. If that were the case i’d advocate against that as well

@MJuice95 @theramblingfool “If everyone just…” Isnt that the argument against red? Lol. Additionally, this is an individual exercise where coordination isnt allowed. Me thinking or not thinking that way doesnt affect whether anyone else will think that way or not. It only affects the one vote.