Gio 🐘
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Gio 🐘
@GioDev8
Working on https://t.co/yCQEYMguka
Conroe, TX Katılım Ekim 2019
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I'm not jealous you're at Laracon US, you're jealous ....
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@aarondfrancis @laravel That's awesome man, congrats! Wish I'd been able to be there this year to chat
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Extremely excited to announce that I'm (finally) joining the @laravel team!
Today is my first day as the VP of Marketing and Community. I love this community and I couldn't be more excited to join the team.
This is the era of builders, and Laravel is the best way to build.
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@GioDev8 Agreed. It feels like you need to have more knowledge and opinions on everything the app touches rather than an intricate knowledge on one or two parts of it.
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Someone on one of my PHP videos said they're following along fine and understand the concepts, but the knowledge keeps slipping away over time. Asked me for advice & how I'd take my own course.
My advice was to rewatch the parts that felt hard and then rebuild the logic without the video, and use AI as a guide when something isn't clicking. Have it quiz you, give you exercises, explain the same thing a few different ways. Build something other than what's in the tutorial.
But the bigger advice is that knowing PHP itself isn't that valuable anymore (as much as I hate saying it). What's valuable now is knowing the systems, the trade-offs, how things connect. Need to think about what goes into building an app beyond the language or framework.
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@ChaseSomero Agreed. But not for everyone and not only about syntax. I said a language or framework as a whole. Knowing a language or framework no longer matters as much.
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Programming has always been more about coordinating the systems and operations than about the exact syntax.
Gio 🐘@GioDev8
Someone on one of my PHP videos said they're following along fine and understand the concepts, but the knowledge keeps slipping away over time. Asked me for advice & how I'd take my own course. My advice was to rewatch the parts that felt hard and then rebuild the logic without the video, and use AI as a guide when something isn't clicking. Have it quiz you, give you exercises, explain the same thing a few different ways. Build something other than what's in the tutorial. But the bigger advice is that knowing PHP itself isn't that valuable anymore (as much as I hate saying it). What's valuable now is knowing the systems, the trade-offs, how things connect. Need to think about what goes into building an app beyond the language or framework.
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@PovilasKorop Well said. I'm actually working on something related to this. Hoping to share details soon 👀
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Here's what I noticed about dev content.
Devs don't need tutorials any more on how XYZ tool/language/framework works in general.
They need REAL STORIES: how XYZ worked in ABC project and what to do if it doesn't work.
Ideally compared to alternative solutions.
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@jeffrey_way Feel the same. I wonder if this will change or it will only get worse as models get better. Idk
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To answer my own question: no.
I'm in a weird state where I don't have much interest in programming, as I've known it for the last 20 years.
Everything feels somewhat wasteful right now.
Jeffrey Way@jeffrey_way
Examples: Would you buy a Ruby language book? Would you work through a how-to make <insert thing> video course? Would you practice coding katas? What about an OOP book? Do any of these interest you at this point? Be honest.
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@xalturicx Yea that happens too, but in this instance Sonne was able to find more issues. Fable as well as Opus were overengineering.
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I had Sonnet audit and review the plan created by Fable. It found couple of issues in the plan.
Going to make this recurring to where in addition to Opus reviewing PRs, I'll have Sonnet randomly pick a commit or PR from last few days and do an audit daily. Might try Haiku also
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Haven't seen your posts for awhile. Glad X fixed Algo. This hits hard because I built a really cool feature with Claude, it follows best practices, has full E2E playwright tests, went through multiple review steps and functionality works without issues and I still can't merge it.
I need to understand the code to feel confident and comfortable merging it.
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I babysit the implementation. I review the plan. I review the code diff. I see CI passing. I test it all locally in an app. I ask another model to review it. I ask it to write a blog post explaining it to me.
And still... I can't bring myself to tag it.
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Agents are getting really good at writing code and it doesn't matter
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I'm at step 2 with goal to get to 3. Curious where everyone else is at and if you are at 3, what harness/orchestration tools are you using?
Boris Cherny@bcherny
I talk to engineers at other companies every day and hear the same thing: one person is 10x'ing their output with Claude but the rest of the org hasn't caught up. Watching teams adopt AI, I keep seeing the same 4 steps. I mapped them out here: Steps of AI Adoption claude.ai/code/artifact/…
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@christophrumpel I've had similar experiences and surprisingly the cheaper model sometimes is better at catching such simple stuff from my experience.
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Gio 🐘@GioDev8
I had Sonnet audit and review the plan created by Fable. It found couple of issues in the plan. Going to make this recurring to where in addition to Opus reviewing PRs, I'll have Sonnet randomly pick a commit or PR from last few days and do an audit daily. Might try Haiku also
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It still blows my mind how AI get be so damn got on first try, but some minor specifics it just cannot get right.
Seeing this today again Claude Code. Something where you feel like AI did already so much more difficult tasks than this.
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@jeffrey_way Between 2 & 3. Some features don't require me to look at code until PR.
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5 phases for programming:
1. I don't use AI at all.
2. Yes, I use it. But I review every single line of code.
3. I don't open the files, but I review each PR deeply.
4. AI changes auto-merge, but we sporadically do file audits.
5. I'm vibe coding, but we prefer a fancier term.
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@GioDev8 Welcome back Gio. Trying to complete your Laravel Series.
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