Doesn't Daniel Mannix deserve a mention?
Frank Bongiorno@fbongiornoanu
What about Jack Dyer?, @RodTiffen
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James Goldrick
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James Goldrick
@GoldrickJames
Retired from RAN as Rear Admiral. Analyst of contemporary maritime affairs and naval historian.
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“‘the basic foundation of [Australia’s] defence problem was the protection of the merchant ship’. This has not changed in the intervening 80 years.”
This, and a few other home truths about 🇦🇺 defence in my latest @ASPI_org piece
aspistrategist.org.au/report-from-19…
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@warinhistory @NavalAirHistory @BCMH_ECR_ @AC_NavalHistory @navalhistorian @NavalHistWar In addition to Andy Boyd's two books on the RN in the FE and his latest on British naval intelligence, I suggest Joseph Moretz 'The Royal Navy and the Capital Ship in the Interwar period'. Submarines tend to be under-done, so I recommend a look at my own researchgate.net/publication/27…
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Recommendations of up-to-date books on British naval strategy between the two wars? 1976 Stephen Roskill “Naval Policy between the wars”, and 1975 Lawrence R. Pratt, “East of Malta, West of Suez” seems old.@NavalAirHistory @BCMH_ECR_ @AC_NavalHistory @navalhistorian @NavalHistWar
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Thanks, Peter. One of the challenges we face is getting people to understand that there has to be more to Australia's defence strategy than the obsession with continental defence that fails to recognise both our real interests and our key vulnerabilities.
Peter Dutton@peter_dutton
@redunley @GoldrickJames Yes, good point. And thank you for making it. But offensive mining is not how this was described. If the mines are for offensive purposes, to be deployed in waters distant from Australia, I have a clearer picture of how they might fit into Australia’s more traditional strategy.
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Thanks, Richard, just my point. There are situations in which closing the opposition in is much better than trying to shut them out - notably if the geography involved is not in their favour. 'Echidna' and similar concepts may be necessary for Oz - but can never be sufficient.
Richard Dunley@redunley
@peter_dutton I would suggest that your analyis of the value of mine warfare is a little narrow. Most of the major mine warfare campaigns have been conducted by the power seeking to exercise command of the sea. A good read by @GoldrickJames history.navy.mil/get-involved/e…
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@SteveRDunn @SeaforthPub @penswordbooks Um...only a temporary jump - he wasn't made a permanent Rear Admiral until it came to his 'turn' in December 1919 - after all those who were ahead of him on the Captain's List.
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#OTD 1918 Harwich Force commodore Reginald Tyrwhitt was made an acting rear admiral, jumping ahead of forty-eight captains in front of him in the Navy List @SeaforthPub @penswordbooks
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@SWDWilliam No - it should be a separate civil force in peacetime, working with Navy on CMS but clearly separate. Different branding can have benefits o/s while the common operational chain of command is already there in MBC. See for further thoughts: lowyinstitute.org/the-interprete…
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@GoldrickJames Would it make sense for such a body to be a subordinate branch of the navy? Sharing a common chain of command, uniforms and liveries for consistency and an overarching common brand abroad in promoting our interests? Somewhat like the RFA in that sense.
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Could the current ABF Marine Unit become a subordinate, distinct ‘branch’ of the Navy? Structured in such a way that non-military personnel (ABF officers, Law enforcement, fisheries) would form part of mixed, but uniformed patrol vessel crews?
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@SWDWilliam An Australian Coast Guard could be a civil uniformed force in peacetime but have the legislation to allow it to be mobilised in a major conflict - its members normally being on a special dormant reserve list which can be activated by Executive Council Order in emergency.
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@SWDWilliam The time is right to create a Coast Guard but the symbiotic relationship with Navy's raise, train & sustain needs to be worked out so Navy doesn't foot the bill. I think at least one senior APS has been trying to get Defence to carry Home Affairs' can here for some time.
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@SWDWilliam Well, that deserves a reply. The real problem is that the recent government never addressed the total resource requirement for both civil maritime security and the navy's work in addition to that (warfighting, diplomacy &c). Until resource needs are addressed, no model will work.
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@SRDMaguire I think the picture is actually of the CHALLENGER in rough seas in the Great Australian Bight in 1910. She was serving on the Australia Station at the time.
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@SWDWilliam I take your point, but I fear $450m per unit is a gross underestimate, notwithstanding British plans for the Type 31. For a start, I suspect their 250m pounds ceiling does not include a great deal of the GFE needed for the 'potential fit' shown in your following tweet.
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The more I think about the requirements for a mid tier combatant for the RAN, the more Babcock’s Arrowhead 140 appeals.
- Crew ~100
- Range ~9,000nm
- Multiple UXV bays for MCM & ASW
- Space for up to 32 MK 41
- Build Price of ~$450m per unit
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@simonharley Since the 1953 Coronation was the only time full dress was worn after 1939, perhaps it's Prince Philip's or Sir Rhoderick McGrigor's as FSL and 1st & Principal Naval ADC. McGrigor borrowed Sir Ragnar Colvin's tail coat and added a ring as an AF - we have Colvin's uniform in Oz.
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If the King wants to bring back proper epaulettes then the National Maritime Museum has a perfect pair he can borrow, complete with her late majesty’s cypher.
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@OnthisdayRN That's either USS NORTH CAROLINA or WASHINGTON on the left. Admittedly also triple 16" gun battleships built to Treaty limits, while WASHINGTON served with the British Home Fleet for a period. But it's neither NELSON nor RODNEY.
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@BadSocialism @EoMProject Perhaps to disillusion you, this is what I thought about the book when it was first released: digital-commons.usnwc.edu/cgi/viewconten…
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@CiarliniKoerner The RN officer behind Beatty's left shoulder is Captain Barry Domvile, then Director of Plans on the naval staff. As a retired admiral he was interned for much of WW2 as a Nazi sympathiser (with pronounced anti-semitic views which he did not hesitate to air then or later).
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A Getty picture of the admirals that lounged by the Sanremo Conference in 1920.
I recognize two: first from left, Alfredo Acton (Italy), and of course, third from left, the Earl Beatty (United Kingdom).
Who can recognize the others?
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@Canadian_Errant Not a PERRY class FFG - I'd put my money on it being either HMNZS WELLINGTON or OTAGO, offshore patrol vessels.
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James Goldrick retweetledi
Reinforces concerns over the opportunity cost of AUKUS that I have discussed a little more fully here
aspistrategist.org.au/nuclear-powere…
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James Goldrick retweetledi
🚢 The final episode of the Australian Naval History podcast is now out! 🚢
Prof Rob McLaughlin, Prof Tom Frame, RADM James Goldrick & VADM Peter Jones reflect on the 101 episodes and the Royal Australian Navy’s history.
soundcloud.com/australian-nav…
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@yulenbilbao I think you mean HMCS Ontario - the navy and the name under which the ship commissioned and operated for her entire life.
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