GutterDog
15.6K posts


PVP has been a massive point of contention over the past few days, and many plead for a fix from the launchpad layer. however, I believe the causation of PVP is misguided and isn’t the result of the launchpad, but a result of:
1) broader liquidity leaving the market
2) behavioral problems
it’s no secret that we’re in a bear market & more liquidity has left the market than has entered over the past 6 months, hence why ceilings are much lower & opportunity feels scarce
with lower liquidity & lower ceilings comes the desire to find edge elsewhere. if traders know they’re not going to succeed holding, and they can't beat other traders, there may be edge in redeploying an already successful coin; whether it’s under the guise of a better ticker, image, has tracked wallets, fee distributions, etc.
while I think this behavior is incredibly destructive, I believe it is a permanent pendulum, and I believe we're currently at the extreme end of that pendulum, which is why we’re experiencing incessant & unrelenting PVP compared to what we see in a bull market (PVP exists, but faces nowhere near the level of participation as we see now)
English

Threadguy reveals his accountant was genuinely impressed with his trading ability
“My accountant's looking at my trades and he’s like, you made this much on TRUMP? You were long UniSwap in 2025 and that’s what you pulled out?!”
“You made money on PUMP, but it says you did it through Hyperliquid? You trade perps? Wait, you made this much on Zcash in a bear market?”
“You flew to Mexico every time you executed one of these trades on Hyperliquid? So that’s what these tickets are, that's why you took 88 flights in 2025?"
English

@tontheneko @Pumpfun People think up ideas and I look and wonder where their head's at. Bottom line is that dev fees shouldn't be initiated until after graduation and coins with the same ticker shouldn't be able to be launched within an hour of each other.
English

My open letter to @Pumpfun
You can fix pvp to some extent, not fully, but you created this environment and it's okay to admit that you did a mistake and revert things. Not everyone or every company is perfect.
Just provide:
- Dev fees (normal, cannot be redirected unless CTO)
- Github/Instagram/TikTok redirection (Good for AI meta and onboarding, but if redirection happens instantly locks, dev cannot choose to lock or not, either redirects before the launch with lock or not at all)
- No fees option (Instantly shows coin has no fees for the deployer, also reduces the amount people would pay to trade)
Remove agent mode and cashback.
CTOs:
Make CTO applications directly from the coin page, automated. If CTO application is made, coin fees are transferred to a vault and cannot be claimed by the deployer until confirmation/rejection, and all fees acquired from CTO application till confirmation is transferred to new CTO lead.
How would this fix?
If it's a community coin: Dev fees
If it's a viral tweet trend etc: No fees for deployer (but give deployers option to pay DEX via Terminal for free)
If it's a product/person onboarding: Instant redirection
This would reduce pvp 90% because everyone would expect the same thing on same categories.
Also add a tag to each coin depending on which option selected.
If there are dev fees, add: Community tag
If there are no fees, add: Viral trend
If it's redirection, add: Onboarding
This is not a permanent fix, you can't permanently fix anything. But you can make it better. For a single time, stop being stubborn and listen to traders please. Traders are your main audience, not the devs.
@json1444 also tagging you since you are most active member of team right now.
English

@Noxismeta And the trenches are front running it.
HBzRik7EPWRLQ8xd2jDZBbY8yvWwN3ix83mvmGGdhDsL
English


@kilorippy 300 is high for an Elon tweet these days. I've been in a few that couldnt even bond and watched this one top out at 45k yesterday.

English

elon musk tweets a crypto meme and it tops out at 300k INSANE
i remember the last crypto meme he posted about poseidon went to multiple millions in the span of an hour
might be time to retire atp.

Elon Musk@elonmusk
English

@imperooterxbt Didn't realize she was still around. I'm surprised she just never went full onlyfans.
English

You aren’t a mother you left your kid in the trash because you are mentally unwell.

fascist.eth@0xfascistx0
@ma1ybe Motherhood isn't an excuse bruv especially since she 46 means she had way enough time to lose the weight (source: I am a mother)
English

New Roadster unveil hopefully next month.
It will be a banger next-level.
Jon Erlichman@JonErlichman
On this day in 2008: production starts for Tesla’s first vehicle, the Roadster.
English

























