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@atharva_rgn @TravihnG @someballfacts Credit where credit is due though. It was a good hattrick especially the free kick but that's basically it. No other decent performance lmao

@HaalandRodri @TravihnG @someballfacts And this was that one good game he had in his entire World Cup career.

Let me be clear about Cristiano. And I hope it's the last time I make such a declaration. I am a lover of football first, foremost, and last. I was never a fan of Ronaldo, nor did I ever really gravitate to his football aesthetically. When your favorite players are Maradona / Zidane / Rui Costa / Figo etc - players who are collectivist and have a broader vision of the pitch - you just don't gravitate to Ronaldo. However, I will say this. He is undoubtedly as great a player both in talent and achievement as any that has come before (or with) him. I prefer what Diego proposes with the ball. I don't think Ronaldo could ever replicate Diego's heroics in 86. But I don't think Diego could guarantee the inevitable goal against every opponent in the UCL and lead to a 3peat. That is to say - Ronaldo is a pillar of our sport. There is no history of football without Ronaldo. Whether you like or dislike his football. Whether you like or dislike his personality. He has always been divisive - some of it is due to his personality and some of it due to an impossible and deepseated hatred in Anglo-media since 2006 that never let up and that we can all see. I have never seen a player travel to every stadium in England - even his own - and get booed for a year. And the scorn that he has had to face never let up - with vultures ready to pounce st the first sign of trouble. Sport is about the human spirit. Teaching us to persevere against all odds. Consistency, discipline and courage when the going gets tough. THAT is the lesson sport imparts for our children. THAT is why some sportsmen are heroes. What Ronaldo is doing at 41 is nothing short of an UNPRECEDENTED sporting achievement and act of singular heroism. The sheer amount of work necessary and the willpower to fight against the dying of the light to represent his country. An indomitable spirit. If that isn't enough to stir and inspire you - I don't what can. This is beyond commendable - it is inspiring. He has embarked on an impossible mission - to show us that the human spirit has no limits. Do we tell a an explorer NOT to attempt to travel to the moon? Because it is near impossible and fraught with risk? Or do we applaud and cheer on a man in his bravery? Food for thought. But beyond that, the recent deluge of vitriol, wanton disrespect, and media pile-on is frankly disgusting and evil. It is evil because you are spitting in the face of a 150 year old tradition and culture that we call football. The culture we call home and brings together billions of people. Cristiano is football. And football is Cristiano. Whether you love, hate or are ambivalent about him. And for that, a modicum of respect as a fan of the game for OUR game is necessary. To see charlatans and half-achievers and no-names aspire for clicks and media fame and buzz to keep their name going or out of some tragic, personal hate and dislike for a man is saddening. It is saddening because these people do not belong in the culture they desecrate. The culture they weaponize, utilize, and instrumentalize but provide nothing to. Today we reject these people. We won't accept them in our circle anymore. Forza Cristiano. Against the dying of the light.

@SolarSailor4 @pythaginboots yea but he's still the best UCL player and that's why it's easy to make a case for him in the top10. top3 however is reaching it because zero WC legacy lol A player with zero WC legacy don't belong in top5

@HaalandRodri @pythaginboots Less CLs than Kroos btw

Is Cristiano Ronaldo the most FORCED GOAT in Sports History? Never seen someone so obviously not a top 3 candidate but his PR campaign is insane. Thoughts? Have we seen this level of delusion in other sports… #portugal #worldcup

@atharva_rgn @TravihnG @someballfacts trying to shoehorn a player with ONE good game in 6 editions of the biggest tournament of the sports in the goat debate against legends who have made their legacy under the biggest pressure lol

@TravihnG @HaalandRodri @someballfacts Won't work mate. If you're consistently in the worst XI of almost every World Cup, there's no way you'll be top 3. WC is the most prestigious and important competition in the sport. You won't find place in the top tier with a crap legacy in that competition.

@TravihnG @someballfacts YOU are retarded if you think a player with zero world cup legacy belongs in top3 lmao he has a grand total of 1 good game in 6 editions of WC. that's the sign of a player who is a big international fraud

@HaalandRodri @someballfacts You might be dumb as fuck. If you dont think messi is no. 1 and ronaldo is no. 2 you have no ball knowledge

@Saniddhya5 @AxAxAxA10ii Was never a balon dor decider lmao You cr7 fangirls are so desperately trying to make the nations league relevant. It's equivalent to carabao cup.

@HaalandRodri @AxAxAxA10ii Yeah we count the Ballon D'or decider as our trophy, everybody from FIFA to UEFA, every organisation counts it, your retarded opinion won't change it

Messi did not win a UCL after 27, while Ronaldo has 3 International trophies to show for, after his 30s

@Maguiredinho @imkikosuarez We are not debating his case for being a great player. He is a great player and an all time great. try to name one player in top10 who had zero WC legacy and you'll find there is none, other than Cristiano whom you guys try to forcefully shove

@HaalandRodri @imkikosuarez There are many great players who have either never played in a World Cup or never won it (or even gone deep) because they play for minnow nations (Portugal is a minnow nation) - does that diminish their ability and status?

This is the biggest and best litmus test in football Doesnt matter if you put Messi above him, that completely fine, but you have ZERO ball knowledge if you put him anywhere outside top 2, let alone “obviously not top 3”

@Kaz7iiV2 Messi won the golden ball in 2014 edition of WC. Something Ronaldo will not touch in his lifetime or the next. your idol is a fraud

Messi does not belong in this bracket. Before Qatar he scored 6 goals in 4 editions. Since Qatar until now he has scored 16 goals. The 10 goals he scored comprise of: 🇸🇦 PEN 🇦🇺 ⚽️ 🇳🇱 PEN 🇭🇷 PEN 🇫🇷 PEN 🇩🇿 ⚽️⚽️⚽️ 8/10 goals are either penalties or vs Algeria & Australia.

@useroftheapp2 @futbolnotactico @imkikosuarez It's because you have never watched real men like Beckenbaur, R9, Zidane who have performed under the biggest stage under the biggest pressure play unlike Ronaldo who had 1 good game in 7editions of the biggest stage lmao It is being generous putting him at #8 or #9

@HaalandRodri @futbolnotactico @imkikosuarez Yh absolutely no way I’m wasting my time with someone who thinks there are 7 players better than Ronaldo

@potterscope_ @rkidrkid82 1 good game in 7WC edition and people have the nerve to put him ahead of Pele, Maradona, Zidane, Beckenbaur, Cruyff, Maldini lmao

@rkidrkid82 0 goals in 10 tournament games for Portugal, not even top scorer in Saudi. His level is very low now?

How awful he is now does not take away from how good he was. In my eyes he’s doing his legacy a lot of damage by continuing to play though. Hes still top three, but he’s nowhere near Messi and never was, anyone who knows football knows it was never a debate.

@potterscope_ Why would he be top3? he's a WC flop. He's maybe #9 or ,#10

@useroftheapp2 @futbolnotactico @imkikosuarez and congratulations, that's why he could have been top5. But when compare him with the likes of Zidane, Maradona, Beckenbaur, Cruyff, R9, Maldini he fell short because unlike the other players who have done it for club and World Cup, he failed Portugal in the WC. he is #8 or #9

@HaalandRodri @futbolnotactico @imkikosuarez It’s the biggest tournament in terms of spectacle and viewership but it’s absolutely light years away from the UCL in terms of skill level and tactical setup. This has never even been debatable

@DznerV3 Not really. We are judging him for flopping in every single edition of the biggest football tournament where pressure is the highest

People deciding their opinion on the GOAT debate based off of what Ronaldo’s doing at 41 years old are probably the thickest people on the planet. Why does him being bad 15 years after his prime mean that his whole career should be rewritten? People love to be edgy.

@nodebate4 @RukioDaGoat Fair list. I forgot to consider the likes of Franz, Platini, Muller

lol, this is exactly what he meant when he said his legacy shouldn’t be judged by the World Cup. and this is exactly what i meant when i said his career is being rewritten in front of our eyes. “Not top 3” 😹😹😹😹😹😹

@Swag36161795492 @RukioDaGoat Maradona, Zidane, R9, Cruyff are ahead of him lmao

@RukioDaGoat He is easily third after Messi and Pelé

@RukioDaGoat @bills_ringless those 7 happen to be the biggest cup. it's not about Portugal winning or losing, it's about him having 1 gud tournament at minimum but he didn't. nations league don't count because Zidane/Cruyff didn't have them when they were playing and the comparison is across generation.

i don’t disagree that his WC legacy is beyond disappointing, but it ultimately amounts to 7 of his +20 years as a footballer. the rest of his accolades make up for it. and his euro history isn’t terrible, and he is the undisputed Nations League MVP. but i’m a ronny fan, so i could bias.

@AxAxAxA10ii @Saniddhya5 they are so desperate that they started counting nations league lmao

@Saniddhya5 what are those 3 international trophies I may ask?

@Emperorsaint4 @The_mad__titan @pythaginboots UCL weight is why he would be top5 if he was better internationally (WC) but he had 1 good game in 6 editions and that is a big case against in top5 debate. not even saying he must win but where is the golden ball? Golden boot? even a silver ball? so ya, he belongs outside

@The_mad__titan @pythaginboots You can't even read. I put Pele and Messi in my top 3 and said there's an argument for Ronaldo to be there, you keep mentioning Messi and saying Ronaldo fans are delusional when the question HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH MESSI.

@rudravarma0831 @RhysCarefree @BlueIsTheRain he's a fraud because he was forced into a debate without a single good tournament in the WC. his club achievements will keep him in #6,#7 though so it's not all that bad. have fun glorifying the fraud

@HaalandRodri @RhysCarefree @BlueIsTheRain The moment anyone calls either CR7 or Messi a fraud, they are not worth debating with. Have fun with all the hate 👍

Nonsense, I’m the biggest Messi fan ever but Ronaldo is the second best player of all time by an absolute distance. Third place isn’t even close. R9 had an awful record in the CL and never won it, CR7 has doubled his total career goals. Maradona won 3 league titles in his entire career, one of them was the Argentine league. 345 career goals, Ronaldo scored more than that between 2013-2019. Pele was playing against unfit drunks, the standard of elite football back then was probably League 2/national league standard at best Happy to discuss any other names put forward, no one is close to those 2. We’re lucky to have witnessed both