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Haris@HarithGaming19·
@yamineko_eisya As a Malaysian, I easily understand most Indonesian languages due to almost all similarities. I have an Indonesian friend who can understand malay as well but needs to get used to it because some words have different meanings.
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TheDT@the_dt1·
No, I want a verse from the Quran that says rape is forbidden. It doesnt exist.... There is one passage about Muhammad punishing a man for raping a free Muslim woman. That is not saying rape is forbidden, its just a protection for your own people It clearly states you can rape your slaves and non muslims I understand that context matters and things can be defined without saying the words explicitly, but you have not once provided any scripture that says or hints to rape being forbidden
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MG 🏳️@Fav1Afghan_·
Are you actually this sick, or just desperate to twist everything into something dirty? That’s her father in a normal photo, and you still managed to sexualize it. Stop projecting your filth onto others. EPSTEIN is literally your western culture.
Matt Couch@RealMattCouch

It's a hell of a question, isn't it?

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TheDT@the_dt1·
@HarithGaming19 @equalDelight @Crafty_wright @Fav1Afghan_ I can’t google something that doesn’t exist. Where in the Quran does it say you cannot rape? You can’t prove it because it doesn’t exist. You have given several verses now and none of them say what you are claiming. You are adding your own ideas into the Quran.
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Haris@HarithGaming19·
@the_dt1 @equalDelight @Crafty_wright @Fav1Afghan_ The same as the bible you mentioned, but I think it is pretty uncommon for people having intercourses with girls after puberty whether they are different religions.🫠
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TheDT@the_dt1·
Well thank you for being honest, that’s refreshing in a sea of liars. Where does it even say maturity was a requirement? It says it’s up to the husbands discretion and sex is allowed as soon as it won’t “cause harm” There is no requirement for puberty in Islam. In the Bible it clearly describes puberty as a requirement in the Old Testament and mental/emotional maturity and love in the New Testament
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TheDT@the_dt1·
That’s the best one. However, it only discourages rape of a free Muslim woman. You can still rape slaves and non Muslims. This was the actual text I was referencing when talking about it mentioning rape. Here it very clearly is talking about rape. So if rape itself was forbidden it should be written about. But it’s not
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TheDT@the_dt1·
You are right on that point. It never uses the word rape. However it does say you can have sex with your slave, that is rape…. The owner has full sexual rights over his captive. No requirement for consent and nowhere does it forbid rape. That’s been my point the whole time. There is also no age restriction for sex.
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TheDT@the_dt1·
24:33 forbids forcing slave girls into prostitution, nothing about rape 16:106 is about taqiyya… has nothing to do with rape 4379 also has nothing to do with rape… How are you possibly reading any of these as having to do with rape? Rape is mentioned in the Quran, if it was forbidden you would easily find a verse that forbids it but you can’t
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Haris@HarithGaming19·
@the_dt1 @equalDelight @Crafty_wright @Fav1Afghan_ Yes, 16:106 is about forcing someone to believe something and 24:33 is about forcing someone to be a prostitute. But both verses make a general rule: coercion is not allowed and takes away responsibility. This in a case where a woman was overpowered, He will be punished the man.
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TheDT@the_dt1·
@HarithGaming19 @equalDelight @Crafty_wright @Fav1Afghan_ Then surely you can prove it right? If it’s explicitly forbidden then in there should be passages in the Quran that clearly say it’s forbidden. But there are none…. It mentions rape and never says don’t rape
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Haris@HarithGaming19·
@the_dt1 @equalDelight @Crafty_wright @Fav1Afghan_ Islam condemns rape. Qur’an 24:33 forbids forcing sexual acts and removes blame from victims. Qur’an 16:106 removes responsibility under coercion. The Prophet ruled in Abu Dawud 4379 that the victim is innocent and the rapist is Stone to death.
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TheDT@the_dt1·
@HarithGaming19 @equalDelight @Crafty_wright @Fav1Afghan_ Give me the verse that says rape is Zina, you can’t because it doesn’t exist It’s forced in there by some interpretations Of Allah meant it to be there he would have said it directly like how he mentions raping your slave is ok
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