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@CoreyErgen @icyspiderman @bibiiking11 I AM SAYING THAT WORLDBUILDING IS THE INTERNAL LOGIC OF A WORK; NEN OPERATES WITHIN THE CONFLICT LOGIC OF ITS STORY - AND CONFLICT IS THE ESSENTIAL FACTOR FOR THE EXISTENCE OF A NARRATIVE. THIS IS THEORETICAL!!!!

@Helloistmemario @icyspiderman @bibiiking11 NOW TELL US ABOUT THE DEPTH OF HXH WORLD BUILDING WITHOUT MENTIONING THE POWER SYSTEM.

hxh worldbuilding seems more impressive than one piece for me (don't take this as op slander cause it's my 2nd fav worldbuilding)

@CoreyErgen @icyspiderman @bibiiking11 how is any of this ‘overcomplicated’? it’s pretty clear what i’m saying

@CoreyErgen @icyspiderman @bibiiking11 1) does it create intellectual conflict? answer and elaborate 2) does it create narrative suspense and uncertainty? answer and elaborate 3) isn’t it just clashes and offscreen resolutions? answer and elaborate 4) doesn’t it limit oda’s creativity in his battle panels?

@CoreyErgen @icyspiderman @bibiiking11 dude, u compared nen to haki. haki isn’t a situational driver of suspense and uncertainty like nen in hxh. it doesn’t create intellectual conflict - just clashes and offscreen resolutions. it’s a totally anti-tension system, it only ended up limiting fights and panel creativity

@icyspiderman @Helloistmemario @bibiiking11 notice he ignored my comment too

@surroshenpai @NaviAnudro @icyspiderman @pageitchy @bibiiking11 did I tell a lie? lmao

@Helloistmemario @NaviAnudro @icyspiderman @pageitchy @bibiiking11 you are so funny ngl

@NaviAnudro @surroshenpai @icyspiderman @pageitchy @bibiiking11 don’t agree with them. he’s an op fan, he doesn’t get consequences. ‘no consequences’? he stopped being a hunter - the whole premise!!!! - stopped being the protagonist and hasn’t appeared in 15+ years. that’s formal consequence. art is form

@surroshenpai @icyspiderman @Helloistmemario @pageitchy @bibiiking11 I kinda agree. But he stated that he enjoys seeing how the characters develop their storyline themselves. I think its a solid way to have Gon not completely die off but have him lose all the power he trained for.

@icyspiderman @CoreyErgen @bibiiking11 damn, you op fans can’t handle being challenged even once before you start acting like this… you can’t even be asked to elaborate without going completely indifferent. just shows how patient i’ve been through all this

@Helloistmemario @CoreyErgen @bibiiking11 Have a good day man. I just want a good faith debate. Not continual avoidance of wild claims

@icyspiderman @CoreyErgen @bibiiking11 it shouldn’t be this hard to explain what worldbuilding is… you guys disappointed me. i thought, as op fans, you’d understand at least a bit about art, like what good paneling is, composition, narrative unity… why? 🫤

@Helloistmemario @CoreyErgen @bibiiking11 “I can’t respond” is all you needed to say man. Take care

@icyspiderman @CoreyErgen @bibiiking11 damn, you two are pretty demanding, huh. you want me to explain op’s ontology but won’t even explain what worldbuilding is to you or show your own ideas. i want to learn from you too... gonna be that selfish? ☹️

@Helloistmemario @CoreyErgen @bibiiking11 A whole lot of nothing said. Alright. Let’s see if you argue in good faith. What drives one pieces world building.

@icyspiderman @CoreyErgen @bibiiking11 and the micro is what justifies the macro in worldbuilding. without it, it’s just a generic, variable conceptual backdrop

@icyspiderman @CoreyErgen @bibiiking11 that’s why nen as a concept isn’t finished. it drives the political, strategic, and combat sides of the story. it’s still being developed because the story itself is still developed

@surroshenpai @icyspiderman @bibiiking11 😑

@Helloistmemario @icyspiderman @bibiiking11 nah, you also started talking about what constitutes a mainstream story. you are all over the place. you are just searching for the best way to downplay one piece. grow up man, why are you so insecure ? it is just manga

@icyspiderman @surroshenpai @bibiiking11 hxh only exists the way it does because of yyh. it’s CATEGORICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for something like it to exist without an already established author behind it - and that also explains its formal execution, like its dense reading

@Helloistmemario @surroshenpai @bibiiking11 That’s not how popularity it works. There are way more vague series than one piece that aren’t as popular. HxH is also one of the most well known anime of all time. I would argue it’s like top 15 in overall popularity all time. Yet there are series that lack in detail under it

@icyspiderman @CoreyErgen @bibiiking11 a power system is the logic behind conflict. conflict is what drives the narrative. disagree? elaborate

@Helloistmemario @CoreyErgen @bibiiking11 Are we arguing world building or power system?

@surroshenpai @icyspiderman @bibiiking11 this whole debate is basically me laying out worldbuilding as world logic, the main driving force. i want to know what it is to you, whether you agree or add something. can’t i learn from you guys? ☹️

@Helloistmemario @icyspiderman @bibiiking11 how is this a response to my comment my man, you are just throwing random jabs hoping that one will land 😭

@surroshenpai @icyspiderman @bibiiking11 maybe you interpret worldbuilding differently than me. what is worldbuilding for you?

@Helloistmemario @icyspiderman @bibiiking11 Objectively false. in fact, some works become popular among kids even though they don't understand it just because it makes them look smart. you are just trash talking at this point but you are not providing any logical argument.

@icyspiderman @surroshenpai @bibiiking11 even kids can like mizoguchi. the point is, the more vague and lacking in detail a work is, the more mainstream it becomes, and the more fans from its target demographic it’ll have

@Helloistmemario @surroshenpai @bibiiking11 I know kids that love HxH and understand it well. It’s not a complex series to follow or enjoy lmao

@surroshenpai @icyspiderman @bibiiking11 That's why it's every 13-year-old's favorite work

@Helloistmemario @icyspiderman @bibiiking11 I mean you have little artistic background and your understanding of OP is surface level, so your proved yourself wrong lmao. the more you enhance your artistic experience the more you appreciate how superior one piece is.

@CoreyErgen @icyspiderman @bibiiking11 and that’s why you didn’t get hxh. the last 3 chapters are literally expanding nen (in this case, specialization). its core idea is that intellectual clash. the dark continent represents nen’s limits - hxh revolves around this paranormal system; it’s its world logic

@Helloistmemario @icyspiderman @bibiiking11 thats just it, i have read hxh and this all just words that say nothing about world building. this is all just about Nen and how increasingly complicated it gets. thats power system not world building.