Looking for some advice.
I've been asked by my local distillery to look at ways at keeping their Mash at a temperature range from 25 - 35 degrees for fermentation. They have 1800litres stored in an insulated vat which are heated via these paddle heat exchangers (no kw rating) -
@howsieboyitsme They have asked me for a different option to heating them other than these paddles and trace heating at the bottom of the tanks. As the temperature they need to hold the tanks are very low an heat pump was my first thought. Not sure if it's been done as I'm looking into it.
@howsieboyitsme The tanks have been bought at auction and were heated via these paddles so there is no information on the running of them. It will be a new installation as the distillery has been buying in the Wash and will now be creating their own from these tanks.
@HelygHeating@ambienteufh They just brought out really thin repair couplings - and it’s just a compression fitting for the ufh to manifold … simple effective and decent price point imho.
I can dm you the reps number … he does London but I’m sure he’d talk to y’all
@Damon_BPHR@suburbanpirate@HeatCalculation So the software doesn't take into account that even though you've input all your room temps are the same say 20dc it will look at default settings to parallel rooms and add them to the calcs throwing actual calcs out.
@HelygHeating@suburbanpirate@HeatCalculation Yes that’s right, it’s taking internal wall to parallel room temp so creating loses.
You can see on the last appendix the internal wall loses.m also good to check through there at the end.
Hi @HeatCalculation.
What's the best approach regarding internal walls? I always input them but usually design to 1 temp and seen a video saying not to input them if adjacent room is the same temp?
@HelygHeating@ambienteufh It’s Mlcp but not as I know it … super flexible . They have thinned out the aluminium and it’s just light and flexible like plastic but not. For me pulling Mlcp is a grind .. and anything to make it easier is a win.
@suburbanpirate@Damon_BPHR@HeatCalculation For my calculation I don't so no internal walls needed to be added to calcs? Does this mean that ceiling/first floor shouldn't be accounted for if it's 2 storey?
@Damon_BPHR@suburbanpirate@HeatCalculation So the heat loss I did was 16kw with all rooms at 20dc, I input all internal walls this then made it think that adjacent rooms were 3 less and added to my heat loss. I've then removed all walls and it's brough it down to 12kw? Am I going wrong somewhere?
@HelygHeating@suburbanpirate@HeatCalculation All parrellel rooms are 18° so if you doing 21° throughout for eg you will lose 3° of heatloss between each internal wall.
Your telling it what your loss is, no loss no wall needed.
@gmartinheating@HeatCalculation Yeah that's exactly how I do it. I'll have to check again tonight with all figures to make sure I haven't messed up somewhere but 4kw difference is mad by just removing internal walls
@HelygHeating@HeatCalculation I design all rooms to same temp (20°c) and show internal walls, only because I have the ‘lowest parallel room temp’ set to 18°c. I’ve always left it to allow for setbacks and if homeowner limited some spaces (TRVs) 🤷♂️
Might be doing it wrong though?