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I’ll be waiting for the doc.

Ren just posted a YouTube post about the situation. I’d like to make a thread replying to it, paragraph by paragraph.

Ren, you are pathetic. The way you handled this situation, your community, and evidence is disguting, and frankly, disturbing. You’re ruined Zeal, the Pressure community, and tied your name directly to your actions. If that was your goal, congratulations.

8. As a victim of rape, you disgust me. You’ve single-handedly sent actual victims back by years.

7. If you’re unable to be respectful in this situation, then you need to leave. You clearly cannot control your community or yourself. Stop.

6. By toxic, do you mean people calling out your lies? Calling out that you are wrong? You’re actively silencing the truth. For what? So you can focus on yourself?

5. Ren doesn’t want negativity? Her previous messages in her server claim otherwise. If you don’t want negativity, then stop perpetuating it. Or do you just not want negativity towards you?

4. Tell your community to do the same.

-mother? Is maturity telling people to die and harassing them?

3. I’ve seen no one defending Zeal because they like Pressure. This assumption belittles anyone who actually wants the truth. The only ‘children’ I’ve seen are her defenders, who she describes as being mature. Is maturity blindly following her? Is maturity harassing someone’s-

-someone who is a victim and needs help. They are attempting to find the truth and figure out the reality of the situation. Really funny how she is so opposed to people finding the truth and would prefer people to follow her blindly.

2. She is using language like ‘take a jab at eachother’ and ‘cafeteria fight.’ This downplays the severity of her actions. Debating someone’s innocence isn’t fighting for the purpose of fighting. SHE DOES NOT SPEAK FOR OTHER VICTIMS OF ASSAULT. No one is attempting to silence-

1. She’s taking her time and moving at her own pace for the doc. Tampering with evidence and painting situations in a bad light aren’t miscommunications. People pointing out your lies and malicious tactics aren’t ’bad faith arguments’ or gotchas.

#Zeal #Pressure Adding something to the other post. This. Ren literally said that it felt nice, that she liked it. Then she says she didn’t? Just a liar. (+)

The fact that she is limiting reactions means she didn't like those reactions, maybe people are starting to be more neutral... That's awesome

Reminder: Debating is not always "2 sides trying to prove a point" sometimes is "2 sides trying to lead to a clear conclusion" which mean u can agree with the other side if they do a fair argument. If u are not going to debate in a healthy way, then don't debate

I was assaulted by Ren at RDC. Will her supporters suddenly support me? Come on guys, what happened to support victims? Evidence? I don’t have any, I was fawning and am allowed to make mistakes!

Finally someone mentioned that. She should has a responsibility for her actions and words which she hadn't from the start. I hate that ppl babying her like she didn't accuse Zeal in serious action. All Rens defenders forgetting that she is grown ass person.

I just hope that by the end of this entire drama if the majority end up supporting Zeal it'll start a movement where we don't blindly trust people in the near future and normalize picking apart life ruining allegations objectively. I'm not saying don't support victims-

We got another one, and I now fully believe, 100%, with full certainty that Zeal is being manipulated by REN, because she can't stand not being accepted by a guy