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C.H. Hoebeke (Christopher Hyde)

C.H. Hoebeke (Christopher Hyde)

@Hoebeke

Retired Librarian. Author of THE ROAD TO MASS DEMOCRACY: ORIGINAL INTENT AND THE SEVENTEENTH AMENDMENT. "Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad."

Kingsport, Tennessee, USA Katılım Mayıs 2009
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C.H. Hoebeke (Christopher Hyde)
@HumanAction76 @CptAncapistan I don't know what led to her opinions. I know what you think led to her opinions, so no need to explain them any further. I don't want longer conversations. I just wish you didn't sacrifice your otherwise thoughtful posts to the low prejudice you have against your elders.
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Human Action
Human Action@HumanAction76·
@Hoebeke @CptAncapistan welcome to social media, boomer. I only have so many characters to post. If you want longer conversation, find a friend. Lastly, if you can't see how the boomer "free love" movement led to her opinions, I can not help you no matter how much I try to explain it.
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C.H. Hoebeke (Christopher Hyde)
@HumanAction76 @CptAncapistan You're not explaining. You're making broad pronouncements on social media, sewing division. You can't just comment on the Gen X slut in the post. You have to use it as an occasion to flog your favorite hobby horse.
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Human Action@HumanAction76·
@Hoebeke @CptAncapistan The boomers in my family point out the cancer their generation has been on American society. They understand no individual is responsible for an entire generation, but generational analysis allows us to explain changes over a large amount of time.
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C.H. Hoebeke (Christopher Hyde)
@HumanAction76 @CptAncapistan I think the anti-boomer campaign is almost as bad for the family as child daycare and nursing homes. Families are the most dangerous threat to the state, but need intergenerational respect to survive. I hope you love the boomers in your family and aren't spewing this BS at them.
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Human Action@HumanAction76·
@Hoebeke @CptAncapistan No, but the "free love" orgy culture was popularized by boomers and taught to the next generation as being acceptable.
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C.H. Hoebeke (Christopher Hyde)
@ClistonBrown I'll be happy to pay for private police and fire protection if it's necessary. But the vast majority of property taxes don't go to those services, but rather to the black hole of the school district, which is as bad as the military at being able to explain where the funding went.
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Cliston Brown
Cliston Brown@ClistonBrown·
Older people complaining that they shouldn’t have to pay property taxes once their homes are paid off are a big reason why we’re *all* going to lose our homes when today’s young people are in charge. If you want police and fire protection, pay your taxes. Don’t be a freeloader.
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C.H. Hoebeke (Christopher Hyde)
@yvessirae If we stopped taxing people altogether, then no reason for you to be angry, right? But I'm curious to know who has 12 vacation homes and is paying less in taxes than a nurse. I could use some advice.
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Yves ౨ৎ
Yves ౨ৎ@yvessirae·
"You're just jealous of rich people" no I'm angry that a man with 12 vacation homes is paying less in taxes than a nurse
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C.H. Hoebeke (Christopher Hyde)
@Laurie0801 What do Americans think "universal healthcare" means? Swedes would be embarrassed to clog their system with the complaints doctors are expected cure in the US. In that country, healthcare is eating right, exercising and avoiding stress. Surgeries and prescriptions are rare.
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Carl
Carl@HistoryBoomer·
One of the funny things about the Electoral College is that it doesn't work at all the way the Founders intended! Each state was supposed to choose electors who would be independent and well-informed. They would NOT be committed to any candidate when they were chosen! After being chosen, the electors were supposed to gather in their state and deliberate. Deliberate! They were supposed to talk about stuff, consider, and debate. Only then would each vote for their favorite candidate based on their own private judgment. The electoral college was supposed to be a deliberative body, not a rubber stamp! We have none of that! Instead of deliberation, we elect slates of electors who are committed in advance to vote for one particular candidate. In fact, 33 states make it illegal for electors to vote differently from how they've pledged. And in the other 17, they're still chosen by political parties, so they almost never break their pledge. "Faithless" electors are incredibly rare! Basically, the mob chooses the electors! (Some of this happened because the Founders thought we could avoid having political parties, and they were very, very wrong.) It's funny how many defenders of the Electoral College deplore mob rule, but in practice, electors are chosen democratically by the mob and are committed in advance to do what the mob tells them. All the folks defending the Founders' concept don't realize that what we have now is NOT what the Founders envisioned!
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C.H. Hoebeke (Christopher Hyde)
@GregOwen70 @NoHoFrankk @HistoryBoomer You're not wrong. That the original arrangement didn't last argues against it. But when working as intended, it did, IMHO, elect better presidents. No harm taking a second look at original intent rather than attempting yet again to cure the evils of democracy with more democracy.
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Vincent Van Go@GregOwen70·
The whole "independent elector" idea lasted for 3, maybe 4 elections before everyone realized it wasn't going to work. The founders were still alive and active in politics at that point. Almost all states have laws requiring the electors to represent the will of the State and have for a hundred years or more.
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C.H. Hoebeke (Christopher Hyde)
@GregOwen70 @HistoryBoomer Federalist 68. You can also read Madison's Notes of Debate of the 1787 constitutional convention in Philadelphia. The discussion starts with how to prevent "cabals" from electing presidents. If Electors had no agency, they'd have no ability to join conspiracies.
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Vincent Van Go
Vincent Van Go@GregOwen70·
@HistoryBoomer Nah. The electors were intended to gather and cast a vote based on the will of their STATE. Regardless how their state decided to choose them. What source, other than "trust me bro" do you have that they were supposed to be impartial or deliberate?
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C.H. Hoebeke (Christopher Hyde)
@Tommyboy186 Telling the truth, going on record for the edification of future voters, IS an accomplishment. Standing in the way, or at least slowing down, the pace of bad legislation IS an accomplishment.
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C.H. Hoebeke (Christopher Hyde)
@Mangos195 @PeterSchiff I'm not sure what more you can do on social media. More noise than signal. But I scan it for signals. There's not going to be a "we" that does anything but "expose" on X, but I get plenty of ideas for my private guerilla war against abusive authority.
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ToothPicker@Mangos195·
@Hoebeke @PeterSchiff just making the point if you take any example, including tax code, Israel,wars,we all need to stop “exposing” them. It’s like trying to prove the sun is hot. We need to start thinking about what the fuck we’ll do about it. “The govt is doing something illegal” is a nothing 🍔
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Peter Schiff
Peter Schiff@PeterSchiff·
26 U.S.C. § 5001 imposes a tax on alcohol. 26 U.S.C. § 5005 creates the liability to pay the alcohol tax. 26 U.S.C. § 5701 imposes a tobacco tax. 26 U.S.C. § 5703 creates the liability to pay the tobacco tax. 26 U.S.C. § 4401 imposes a tax on wagering. Section 4401(c) creates a liability to pay the wagering tax. 26 U.S.C. § 1 imposes an income tax. However, there is no section that creates a liability to pay the income tax. That is not an accident. It's because the payment of the income tax is legally voluntary. The payment of those other taxes is mandatory. If anyone can find a section of the IRC that specifically creates a liability to pay the income tax, in the same way that the IRC establishes a liability to pay the alcohol, tobacco, or wagering taxes, please reply to this post with the citation.
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C.H. Hoebeke (Christopher Hyde)
@ideaddontcare @PeterSchiff We don't need price stability. We need to let prices fall against wages. Wages might fall, too, but not as fast. This happens if government stops interfering in the market's pricing process and gets out of the way of productive people.
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im zed azzz@ideaddontcare·
@Hoebeke @PeterSchiff It remains to be seen. If they are successful, I think their model would serve as a practical anchor for price stability for staple foods. If they are unsuccessful, Hochul will cut it because the state cannot afford it.
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Peter Schiff
Peter Schiff@PeterSchiff·
Mamdani hopes to make groceries more affordable by eliminating private profit and opening five government-owned stores. But profit margins are less than 2%. Without a profit motive government stores will be far less efficient, so without taxpayer subsidies, prices will be higher.
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@Mangos195 @PeterSchiff I'm not sure the point involved Israel. I thought the point was Federal hypocrisy in its filings law. As for what he's doing about anything, Peter has helped me and others prepare for what's coming -- if that counts..
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ToothPicker@Mangos195·
@Hoebeke @PeterSchiff Do u ever notice how we’re just sitting around “proving” people are wrong and corrupt everyday? Like we get the point. Israel is fucked up. So… the question isn’t if we need to severe ties, it becomes wtf are we going to do about it. *thats* what we should all be talking about
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C.H. Hoebeke (Christopher Hyde)
I'd be OK with each Elector voting his own conscience. My only job should be choosing a neighbor whose wisdom and negotiating skills I trust to represent my interests in the choosing of a president.
Special Puppy 🧦🐵@SpecialPuppy1

Would supporters of the Electoral College be okay with every state allocating electoral votes proportionally? For example, if Trump won 38% of the vote in California, he’d get about 21 of California’s electoral votes instead of 0. If not, why not?

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C.H. Hoebeke (Christopher Hyde)
@SpecialPuppy1 I'd be OK with each Elector voting his own conscience. My only job should be choosing a neighbor whose wisdom and negotiating skills I trust to represent my interests in the choosing of a president.
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Special Puppy 🧦🐵
Special Puppy 🧦🐵@SpecialPuppy1·
Would supporters of the Electoral College be okay with every state allocating electoral votes proportionally? For example, if Trump won 38% of the vote in California, he’d get about 21 of California’s electoral votes instead of 0. If not, why not?
James Surowiecki@JamesSurowiecki

There's no good civic argument for the electoral college. It was arguably necessary to ensure the ratification of the Constitution, but it's an anti-democratic device that gives some American citizens far more voting power than others, based purely on where they live.

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C.H. Hoebeke (Christopher Hyde)
@ideaddontcare @PeterSchiff If they don't offer competitive prices, then the only way they stay in business is taking money from tax payers, not consumers. If they aren't taking money from consumers, they aren't competing. They're just existing at government expense.
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im zed azzz@ideaddontcare·
Just because it’s a government enterprise does not mean they will automatically offer cheaper prices—they are still subject market forces, budgets, and competition. The only expenses they are taking away is rent and distributions, which most likely will be distributed to the workers. Recall, how thin these margins are.
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C.H. Hoebeke (Christopher Hyde)
@yhdistyminen Ink was barely dry. I think the framers were exhausted and wanted out of Philadelphia when they settled on the College. The indirect election of senators held out a century longer, but its demise started simultanously with the sacrifice of the Electors' free agency to parties.
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bob's burgers urbanist 🐿️
As with some of the Framers' other interesting ideas, this theory did not survive contact with a party system, which provides each state with a clear incentive to pick electors in a winner-take-all manner––not something the Framers foresaw or desired at all.
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C.H. Hoebeke (Christopher Hyde)
@yhdistyminen It elected George Washington (unanimously), followed by Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe & Quincy Adams. No popular votes recorded before 1824. Jacksonian democracy and mass party politics killed that arrangement.
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