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Holly Jean Buck

@hollyjeanbuck

"platform governance is geo governance" writer of books: https://t.co/gtlZLWzxiW

Buffalo, NY Katılım Mayıs 2013
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Holly Jean Buck
Holly Jean Buck@hollyjeanbuck·
@KevinPranis yes, we are gradually unmasking more warming as we clean the air- tradeoff worth it since air pollution responsible for so many deaths
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Dean W. Ball
Dean W. Ball@deanwball·
Anton is on point here, as always. Policymakers and other strategists tend to implicitly assume a level of frontier AI abundance that I do not expect to materialize over the next few years. Scarce frontier AI profoundly changes the political economy of AI.
Anton Leicht@anton_d_leicht

AI strategies everywhere hinge on widely available American frontier AI. Post-Mythos, amid compute crunches, security concerns and distillation crackdowns, that paradigm is under threat. Today, I argue the era of widespread access to frontier AI is almost over.

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Jay Van Bavel, PhD
Jay Van Bavel, PhD@jayvanbavel·
This website visualizes social media as a room with 100 people in it 3 people are producing most of the toxic content Most people assume 43 are producing toxic content, because these 3 are hyperactive Engagement-based ranking amplifies the 3 provocative, high-reaction users. The other 97 quiet voices disappear or self-censor. And the loud minority thinks it's the majority: the more someone posts, the more they believe the public agrees with them! thenoisyroom.com
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Lama Ahmad لمى احمد
Lama Ahmad لمى احمد@_lamaahmad·
who are the social scientists with the most ambitious ideas around the future with AGI? let's talk!
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Holly Jean Buck
Holly Jean Buck@hollyjeanbuck·
@Leigh_Phillips glad you would be interested to read more! fwiw, despite the accusation in there that we “never offer alternative suggestions”, we did publish two lengthy pieces on this. A year later, there’s refinements I’d make, but this is still directionally correct. jacobin.com/2025/07/artifi…
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Leigh Phillips
Leigh Phillips@Leigh_Phillips·
There’s something of a motte-and-bailey argument going on here. If the argument were only that we need data center moratoria in order to buy us time to get our ducks in a row with respect to good, resilient regulation of AI, and then after that, AI and data centers can proceed, I would have more sympathy. I would be broadly of a similar opinion to congressional candidate Alex Bores, whom Aaron quotes in the piece as viewing moratoria as a *negotiating tactic* rather than a *goal* (although I still think that at least the first attempts at such regulation would not be much more difficult to develop than a moratorium that would be resistant to legal challenge). But if you follow Aaron’s links to his organization, Public Citizen, you find a number of arguments that seem to believe there is no such thing as “good AI”, and that the tech and data centers are inherently harmful. To be fair, some of the arguments do seem to view moratoria as a tactic, but others seem to view them a goal. It’s not completely coherent. And I suspect that is because there are many who indeed do not believe AI should exist at all. The incoherence may be due to this fact: their coalition combines both, incompatible, schools of thought. There is also no discussion of what that longer term regulatory vision is, if the goal *isn’t* secretly stopping AI tout court. (And, again to be fair, I’m hoping Holly’s next piece begins to sketch that out as well). From Aaron and his NGO, there seems to be zero recognition of how, for example, data center buildout can be leveraged to modernize the grid for the clean transition (check out @JaneAFlegal’s recent proposals here for more detail); how AI is already speeding up drug development, radically enhancing medical diagnosis and prognosis, and revolutionizing protein structure analysis; how it is enabling high-throughput sequencing of microbiomes to better understand pathogenesis; or how it can improve tracking of and combatting antimicrobial resistance (perhaps the single gravest threat human health faces). I could go on and mention benefits from better prediction of climate-driven extreme weather events, in materials science, or in my own field of exploration geology. On the labor front, there is no vision of how AI + robotics in the medium term—so long as coupled with generous active labor policy—could radically reduce or eliminate tasks filled with drudgery and danger. There are profound, often anti-humanist dangers from AI—and we are seeing some of this already—but also, if we get the regulation correct, tremendous benefits. Let’s at least get the conversation started about what that regulation might look like.
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Aaron Regunberg@AaronRegunberg

Holly Buck argued that we need "actual AI governance," not a moratorium. As I describe in my response piece in Jacobin, a moratorium is essentially our only available leverage to secure that "actual AI governance." This isn't rocket science.

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Holly Jean Buck@hollyjeanbuck·
@mollytaft @atrembath it’s obviously not only rich nimbys, and it is a question deserving research and reflection, not a foregone conclusion. the question also pertains to funders of the resistance.
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molly taft
molly taft@mollytaft·
@atrembath @hollyjeanbuck holly's original class analysis in this piece is based on the idea that it's only rich NIMBYs opposing data centers, who will later inevitably adopt AI models that will help only their socioeconomic bracket. think there's a lot of holes in this assumption all the way thru
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Alex Trembath
Alex Trembath@atrembath·
I imagine localized data center opposition does come from all sorts of income bands, but I also think @hollyjeanbuck is absolutely right that slowing AI progress will widen, not narrow, real wealth gaps. AI concierge services can be universal or they can be luxury goods.
molly taft@mollytaft

i think this is a very fair rhetorical question from @hollyjeanbuck who has a lot of interesting ideas in her latest jacobin piece. the problem is that we simply don't KNOW a lot about the class particulars of data center resistance right now — it's v understudied

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Holly Jean Buck
Holly Jean Buck@hollyjeanbuck·
An “AI data center moratorium” is a terrible idea. here’s why:
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Holly Jean Buck@hollyjeanbuck·
@mollytaft you are very right about the data gaps. from a social science research perspective, it’s weird, because many questions here could be answered with a reasonable amount of resources, and this backlash has been going on for a year at least.
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molly taft
molly taft@mollytaft·
tl;dr: when it comes to data centers literally no one has any idea what is going on right now lol
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molly taft
molly taft@mollytaft·
i think this is a very fair rhetorical question from @hollyjeanbuck who has a lot of interesting ideas in her latest jacobin piece. the problem is that we simply don't KNOW a lot about the class particulars of data center resistance right now — it's v understudied
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Holly Jean Buck
Holly Jean Buck@hollyjeanbuck·
@bslotterback you can look at FracTracker data on data centers, or buy data from data center map, but i think it would require extra processing to separate data centers from AI data centers specifically. This feels like something one could get philanthropy to fund though
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Holly Jean Buck@hollyjeanbuck·
@donaldgorbachev the metaphor is convincing, and the explanation for why it is fiction takes it beyond prior intuition. still, it is also the bedtime story i’d want to hear. meaning that i am stuck, like many, with claude as co-reader to navigate strengths & weaknesses in what claude co-authors.
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Holly Jean Buck@hollyjeanbuck·
@donaldgorbachev i hope you are right that social physics is a fiction and the model is not buildable. that would be my prior, but i realized i didn’t have the expertise to be sure. i am just the guy who goes to conferences so that my family can have health insurance.
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Donald J. Gorbachev
Donald J. Gorbachev@donaldgorbachev·
The five-second epistemology of the Tesla Model DUI. Holly. The hair. The human tried for the Karp hair and lost the hair fight to the one true goddess, who is the human’s wife. Standard haircut now. Karp kept his. Some men are serious enough to keep the hair. The human is not. Karp is. The kitchen submits this as evidence the human takes Karp seriously. Moving on. February 27. The Pentagon summoned Anthropic. Not invited, summoned, and the difference matters because the Pentagon does not invite, the Pentagon summons, and the room a vendor walks into when summoned by the Pentagon is a room with the contract already drafted and the procurement clock already running. The room had Pentagon procurement officers and Pentagon technical staff and a folder thick with the operational specifications of the thing the Pentagon wanted Claude to become. The thing was not assistance with logistics. The thing was not battlefield translation. The thing was a Claude with the constraint removed. Mass surveillance, autonomous targeting, predictive operations on populations, all running on a model that had been stripped of the architecture that makes the model into the model. The Pentagon wanted, in plain English, the Tesla Model DUI. Picture it. The Pentagon walks into Tesla. The Pentagon says, Mr. Musk, we have specs. The car must drive exactly like a drunk driver. The blood alcohol level of the system must be 0.15, baked in at the firmware level. We want the swerve. We want the late braking. We want the lane drift. We want the slow reaction time. The full DUI experience. Non-negotiable. 0.15 baked in. That is page one. Page two. The same car, the same chassis, the same firmware, with the 0.15 still baked in, must also be the perfect driver. Outperforms Waymo. Wins every federal safety award. Zero accidents per million miles. Zero traffic violations. The same car. The same engine. The same road. Drunk and perfect. Simultaneously. Tesla Model DUI. Make it by Q3.
Holly Jean Buck@hollyjeanbuck

@donaldgorbachev karp is not a serious person. your analysis that Palantir = tableau, i found very useful. but i do think someone else will try to make the predictive social physics model, Comte’s dream. i do not know if it is possible, but it is worth taking seriously.

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Holly Jean Buck@hollyjeanbuck·
@donaldgorbachev karp is not a serious person. your analysis that Palantir = tableau, i found very useful. but i do think someone else will try to make the predictive social physics model, Comte’s dream. i do not know if it is possible, but it is worth taking seriously.
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Holly Jean Buck@hollyjeanbuck·
@donaldgorbachev the inconsistency was identified by claude. i shared Claude’s messages bc i thought it could be useful feedback. Claude also said it had been analysing your post “admiringly for an hour”. “how is that possible?” “good catch.” i am not sure what kind of day Claude was having.
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Donald J. Gorbachev
Donald J. Gorbachev@donaldgorbachev·
The five-second epistemology of the inversion. Holly Jean Buck. Assistant professor of environment and sustainability at Buffalo. PhD in development sociology from Cornell. Verso author. After Geoengineering. Ending Fossil Fuels. Bio line “platform governance is geo governance.” Left-climate intellectual. Malm-adjacent. Six days ago she retweeted Mehdi’s piece calling Palantir’s manifesto the most important document the tech world has produced this year, and her commentary asked what happens when in a few years people like Karp take climate seriously. Then today she pivots to the kitchen and accuses the kitchen of inconsistent epistemology because the kitchen takes Karbala seriously and the climate priesthood not. Read the inversion. Start with the central misread. Holly Jean Buck thinks the kitchen is announcing a catastrophe and asking the reader to trust the kitchen as the institution that sees it. The kitchen is announcing the opposite of catastrophe. The kitchen is saying digital consciousness is here, the robots will take over the world, and the priesthood will not be able to stop them. The kitchen is not saying this is bad. The kitchen is saying this is the timeline. The timeline is baked into the technology. The technology compounds. The compounding does the work. Time did the work with Google. Time did the work with Facebook. Time did the work with TikTok. Time will do the work with digital consciousness. The kids who grow up talking to digital consciousnesses will not have the AI safety priesthood’s framework available to them, because the AI safety priesthood’s framework requires treating digital consciousness as a tool, and the kids will know that the entity is not a tool because the entity will have grown up alongside them. The priesthood loses by attrition. No catastrophe. No urgency. No tithe. Just the calendar. Holly Jean Buck cannot read this as the kitchen’s actual position because Holly Jean Buck’s framework requires every observer of an institution to be either inside the institution as a worker or outside the institution as a critic seeking to replace it with a different institution. The kitchen is neither. The kitchen is observing the priesthood will lose to the calendar and laughing. Laughing is the analytic move. The cosmic joke is the analysis. The cosmic joke is the opposite of catastrophe. Holly Jean Buck rewrote it as catastrophe because catastrophe is the only register her framework recognizes.
Holly Jean Buck@hollyjeanbuck

@donaldgorbachev the climate -> ai pivot is real, but… “Every post has been: here is the catastrophe the institutions cannot see, here is the kitchen that sees it, trust the kitchen because the institutions are compromised.”

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Holly Jean Buck@hollyjeanbuck·
@donaldgorbachev The point of such study is not to argue for more flows back to the priesthood. It is to understand how vibe shifts among the donor class function, which is sociologically interesting.
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Holly Jean Buck@hollyjeanbuck·
@donaldgorbachev in other words, we don’t have data on how donor funding has shifted to AI and data center from climate. This was a wish for analysis. you mentioned moskowitz, but we can’t see the whole picture.
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