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I'd be very happy to make a public bet that I'm correct about this group of Cambridge academics' methodology being bad. I'm >95% on the claims "Operational waste heat is not the dominant cause of the observed signal" and "Land-cover change is a substantial uncontrolled confound and the paper's causal attribution fails."

Silicon Valley Fodder@Playerinthgame

@TaylorLorenz What you’re sharing is a blog post from an Effective Altruism guy paid by Coefficient Giving. How could that be more credible than Cambridge academics? x.com/Playerinthgame…

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Andy Masley@AndyMasley·7h

@Playerinthgame @TaylorLorenz Would you be interested in a public bet about whether I'm correct about the study's methods not supporting the claim?

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Silicon Valley Fodder@Playerinthgame·10h

@TaylorLorenz No. It’s not the opposite. A lot of legit scientific work gets circulated before peer review. Next step is more studies to determine whether the study’s methods support the claim. These are credible academics, including senior professors, many from Cambridge.

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Taylor Lorenz@TaylorLorenz·11h

Wasn’t the heat island thing debunked a couple weeks ago? Please correct me if I’m wrong. I haven’t followed closely but I could have sworn I saw this refuted…

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Scientists have discovered AI data centers are even worse for the environment than we thought. Big data centers create "heat islands" that raise local surface temperatures an average of 3.6°F, enough to potentially devastate local wildlife and water supply.

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Andy Masley@AndyMasley·7h

@IsaacKing314 Fixed to make clear

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@IsaacKing314 This is mostly the land around the buildings. The buildings themselves will be just 25 square miles

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Andy Masley@AndyMasley·8h

This was fun to write

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@TomMoyerUT I am slowly orbiting into talking about the actual issues, just had to do one more easy dunk. Currently writing an air pollution post

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Tom Moyer 🇺🇸@TomMoyerUT·9h

@AndyMasley Good post. But I can’t believe the land area requirements for data centers even needs to be discussed. What a non-issue. Power. Power needs are a real issue.

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Andy Masley@AndyMasley·1d

New post on data centers and land use, where I explain why I think we have way too much farmland

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Andy Masley@AndyMasley·10h

@Weapon_XReject @Laneless_ Haven’t vibecoded hard enough

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poop now wipe later@Weapon_XReject·10h

@Laneless_ @AndyMasley For all the water it uses AI has yet to leave me with a hangover & regrets

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Andy Masley@AndyMasley·11h

hmmm

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Andy Masley@AndyMasley·10h

They don’t want you to know this but the dmv is good now

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@pwgallagher I considered removing the exports part bc like trade is good

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Peter Gallagher@pwgallagher·10h

"American farmers grow more food than the country eats, export 20% of the surplus, throw out another third of what’s left, and collect $1.85 billion a year from the federal government to keep a Kentucky-sized 40,000 square miles of farmland intentionally idle, an area 28 times the full projected footprint of every American data center in 2028." Apologies. That's a great article. Although (TBF) many US farms do grow for export (not just dispose of surplus). Still you are right to say about farmers *everywhere* that too many never think about about the marginal value of farming. That's unfortunate for them. But culpable in a regulator.

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Andy Masley@AndyMasley·1d

In every negative reaction to my post I notice that people take "We should have less farmland" to mean "We should have no farmland" and cannot snap out of it

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Andy Masley@AndyMasley·10h

@swrightCO The paper this is based on is very bad, wasn't peer reviewed, and is likely to not pass. blog.andymasley.com/p/data-centers…

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Sarah 📸@swrightCO·22h

destroying ecosystems because you’re too lazy to make your own grocery list or can’t draw

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Despite my best efforts the very bad heat island paper (which wasn't even peer reviewed!) seems to have become common wisdom. 14k likes

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Andy Masley@AndyMasley·10h

@pwgallagher 100%, big theme of my post

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Peter Gallagher@pwgallagher·10h

@AndyMasley The USA almost certainly has (way) too much farmland. The quickest/most reliable way to find out how much you *should* have is to abolish the massive govt. subsidies to production of e.g. sugar, cotton... (that have been unassailable 'holy writ' since the 1930s).

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Andy Masley@AndyMasley·10h

@pubity This study was really bad to the point that I don't think it's going to pass peer review blog.andymasley.com/p/data-centers…

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Andy Masley@AndyMasley·10h

@TaylorLorenz blog.andymasley.com/p/data-centers…

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Andy Masley@AndyMasley·10h

@TaylorLorenz It was debunked by yours truly though I kind of don't expect a lot of people to have read it

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Andy Masley@AndyMasley·12h

@ryu0000000001 I think they're neat to talk to

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ryu@ryu0000000001·14h

@AndyMasley Fair, but why would you want that? Is it the belief that high information people are particularly impactful to the public narrative?

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Andy Masley@AndyMasley·16h

The thing is that I really only want to reach high information audiences and build that out. Changing the public narrative is on other people

SE Gyges@segyges

you can write nonstop about new and different types of crank nonsense that are each ubiquitous on social media, and your doing so only reaches extremely high-information people i do not see a solution to this problem on the horizon

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