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@turcoperiii @Exmuslim24 there is no option to DM you. You can try me, if you'd like.

@Iamanewcreature @Exmuslim24 if ur not going to insult me and we will continue the debate in peace u can dm me because there's like other notifications im getting

Muslims be like: If Muhammad was a p3do then why did he wait for Aisha to be 9 years old before consummating the marriage? 🤡

Sister, i haven't and will not insult you. I hate islam, because as you can see from it's sick teachings. I didn't make them up, we can all read for ourselves. I think you are genuinely seeking and islam has deceived many people. I care about you, that's why i have been spending hours talking with you 😁

@turcoperiii @Exmuslim24 You still don't get it. verse (4:103); states that prayer is obligatory at appointed times. What appointed times? Which times? Where do you get these times? HADITH!

@Iamanewcreature @Exmuslim24 i didn't get that prayer is obligatory at specific times from the hadiths, i cited the Quranic verse (4:103); and the second point gets into another topic that's not hadith related

@turcoperiii @Exmuslim24 Yes, but you still don't see your inconsistency. You do daily prayers? Rakahs? How many times? Specific positions and times? Where did you get those from? NOT FROM QURAN. It's in HADITH.

@Iamanewcreature @Exmuslim24 i didn't use any hadiths? i literally mentioned none, i don't need to for the five pillars

"if it was an established fact" You just don't want to believe it. Yet, from the same hadith, you would believe if it says she was older. that's hypocricy. Youre also born into a muslim family, like me. Don't be sacred, even though muhammad said to kill anyone that leaves islam. You think this is a peaceful religion?

@Iamanewcreature @Exmuslim24 if it was an established fact i wouldn't be a muslim obviously

@turcoperiii @Exmuslim24 Where do you think these people get this idea from? Can you not wake up already? These girls are being fattened up like Aisha to be married off! x.com/realMaalouf/st…

@Iamanewcreature @Exmuslim24 i am not assuming anything. i'm saying nobody knows her age, there was a hadith taken from an old (possibly senile man) living in Iraq. i am NOT saying 'yeah i don't like this hadith but i like this'. the 'fact' i was stating was that the idea of her being a child comes from hdth

"i am not assuming anything. i'm saying nobody knows her age," Ok, so why don't you believe what the hadith says, Aisha said she was 6? You said, if you know Aisha was a child bride you would leave islam. I gave you multiple examples of moslems STILL today who is practicing this. Where do you think they got this idea from? I showed you quran verse about marrying PRE PUBESCENT girls and divorcing them. I gave you hadiths about Aisha being 6 and look, this is Aisha being forced fed, because she is a little kid, she was ill and small, to make ready for her wedding night. This is a child, she had to be fattened up.

"at specific times is mandatory (4:103)" Ok, where do you get this information from? HADITH! "the rakahs are not specified, meaning from this view, there's no strict mandate on the rakahs you pray from the Quran" yet, you and all other muslims do the same positions, follow the same praying times etc? Why, where did all of you got those information from? HADITH!

@Iamanewcreature @Exmuslim24 here's the point though, the things that are most crucial or mandatory are in the Quran daily prayer is mandatory at specific times is mandatory (4:103) the rakahs are not specified, meaning from this view, there's no strict mandate on the rakahs you pray from the Quran

"do you know there was a lot of 'trust me bro'" So again, millions of muslims are just idiots for folowing hadith? (I know they are). Again, you don't know the exact rakahs if it weren't from hadith? So what makes you think these are reliable and not 'trust me bro'? You still can't prove to me this, only by using the quran. That's my point, you use the hadith where it suits you.

@Iamanewcreature @Exmuslim24 do you know how many of the 'sahih hadiths' were collected?????? do you know there was a lot of 'trust me bro'

"if i was a sunni (i used to be because i was born into it)" me too. Praise the Lord GOD I left that sick cult!🤗 'and said yeah i dont like that one but the rest are valid" Yes, I understand. But you are making a suggestion that Aisha being 6 is not true, since there is another (still haven't seen it) ASSUMPTION of hadith saying she is much older. So you are willing to reject Aisha being 6, but you are willing to accept the part (Assuming) where she older. Can't you see how you are using the same source, but pick and choose which one you want?

@Iamanewcreature @Exmuslim24 if i was a sunni (i used to be because i was born into it) and said yeah i dont like that one but the rest are valid, i would be cherrypicking hadiths to make them fit my biases

@turcoperiii @Exmuslim24 "i'm saying even within the hadith corpus there's hadiths suggesting" What I gave you are SAHIH. Do you know what that is?

@Iamanewcreature @Exmuslim24 the thing you're saying would be cherrypicking i do not view any hadiths as religiously authoritative, i don't care if it says she was 40 the process and methodology is too flawed, many do not know this i'm saying even within the hadith corpus there's hadiths suggesting

"i do not view any hadiths as religiously authoritative, i don't care if it says she was 40" I understand, but for you say, "fact: the idea that aisha was nine comes from the hadiths, but the same hadiths seem to suggest she was older minimum sixteenish" That's you willing argue Aisha being 6, by rejecting one, but willing to accept another, from the VERY SAME hadith. is that not cherry picking?

@turcoperiii @Exmuslim24 Ok, fine. You are saying 'suggests'. I will let go of this one. However: x.com/Iamanewcreatur…

@Iamanewcreature @Exmuslim24 LOOK WHAT I SAID FACT FOR!

even if you do, as I said that wouldn't cancel ALL the other hadith in which Aisha said she was 6! It will only prove that it's another contradiction in islam. Now the question is, why would you believe in the one that ASSUMES she's much older, but reject the ones (multiple) where we can read in SAHIH in plain texts?

@Iamanewcreature @Exmuslim24 i havent shown you lemme try to find it

@turcoperiii @Exmuslim24 "why r u misrepresenting?" How? Didn't you yourself said "FACT"? Now you are saying : "nobody knows how old she was, she lived in ancient arabia. you can't be sure."

@Iamanewcreature @Exmuslim24 again, not my position i'm saying that it's a fact that that's where that idea came from and that there are hadiths that suggest she was older nobody knows how old she was, she lived in ancient arabia. you can't be sure. why r u misrepresenting?

@turcoperiii @Exmuslim24 Have you even studied what in jannah? Do you know what men will receive and what women will receive? Sister, I pray you will study and leave this sick s3x cult made for men!

@Iamanewcreature @Exmuslim24 to be intellectually honest, I have to read them and look at differing interpretations before I jump to any conclusions (for the record, i don't condone this behavior ofc that's vile but again these guys fuck goats and sheep i don't expect better)

I am glad to her this! 🤗 As I said, it doesn't matter whether YOU yourself disagree ot find it vile, the point is, they do this because they are following what it's the quran and in the hadith. The problem is in your books. Look at this, placing CURSES on your own wife, if she doesn't give the husband s3x? What kind of ideology is this?

well, you are doing that unfortuntely. Because you claiming 'FACT', that Aisha was MUCH older and you're trying to use the very hadith, where I got Aisha's age being 6, which you reject, you say it's unreliable when it comes to that one. But Aisha being MUCH older (still haven't shown me any proof) from the SAME hadith is what...reliable?

@Iamanewcreature @Exmuslim24 nope, cherrypicking is what some sectarians do 'i think the hadiths are valid to be applied in Islam but I don't like this' that's not my stance

@turcoperiii @Exmuslim24 x.com/Exmuslim24/sta…

@Iamanewcreature @Exmuslim24 you couldn't tell i'm a female? im going to research that verse in detail and view multiple interpretations and compare them