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I.Analyze.@Idioanalyses·
@GalacticMj @SeventhStarSage That's true. We will have to see about that. Regardless Those seeds are there because of the more developed and truthfully more interesting relationship of vegeta and cabba. Goku quickly moves on from hit to jiren in their following encounter during the T.O.P.
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SeventhStar@SeventhStarSage·
Probably my favorite Super moment. Vegeta desire to save the namekians transcends his pride, he's okay if someone else other than him pulls it off, so long as it happens.
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@SeventhStarSage I think this even further backed by the fact that after buu dies goku never goes further than ssj3 originally he just waits for uub so he can train him to have the ultimate fight again.
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I.Analyze.@Idioanalyses·
@SeventhStarSage Ssj3 didn't work and ultimately teamwork had to be used like mui, the form's mystique and exclusivity to goku showed his transcendence into a new world which only he saw. Its not 1:1 but i think the same essence is there for ssj3 that your pulling from Ui.
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SeventhStar@SeventhStarSage·
This probably my favorite Goku moment in Super, due to it probably being the most important moment in Super. After the Cell Games Goku's attitude towards power within the series and how the fandom perceived him changed.
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@SeventhStarSage Idk if this is a hot take but i feel like Vegeta is the bulk of the narrative interest in super and goku is somewhat unfortunately reduced to just fights. I never see anyone talk about goku character moments just how his fights break the internet or will. his story is done atp.

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I.Analyze.@Idioanalyses·
@Thatguy24547644 I agree goku becomes more self aware during moro but that is not a deeper story than vegeta and moro. And vegeta is an example of the kind of person goku is seen as but he is not primarily there to emphasize goku's journey he has his own story being told.
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Antagonist@Thatguy24547644·
@Idioanalyses TOP was about Goku rebuilding himself from the ground up to find a new way to surpass his limits Moro is literally about Goku becoming more self aware of the effect he has on the world and people, and deciding what to do with that awareness. Vegeta is used to emphasise that.
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Antagonist@Thatguy24547644·
Dude the Top and Moro were primarily centered around Goku's development while Granolah was 50/50 between the 2 of them Vegeta's development in Moro is used to COMPLIMENT Goku's themes in the arc😭
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@SeventhStarSage Idk if this is a hot take but i feel like Vegeta is the bulk of the narrative interest in super and goku is somewhat unfortunately reduced to just fights. I never see anyone talk about goku character moments just how his fights break the internet or will. his story is done atp.

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I.Analyze.@Idioanalyses·
@Thatguy24547644 Except goku doesn't rebuild. he just loses to jiren then oddly tries to power up but fails, then master roshi suddenly is capable of teaching him ultra instinct. Then he unlocks it, fails still and then has to use teamwork. I think thats what the arc is about more than anything.
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I.Analyze.@Idioanalyses·
@GalacticMj @SeventhStarSage Thats fine but what is there beyond the fighting. there isnt much future potential for hit as a character like there is for cabba and the saiyans of U6. Besides hit being riled up or intrigued by goku is nothing new it happens to every one he fights tbh.
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I.Analyze.@Idioanalyses·
@GalacticMj @SeventhStarSage Mind you galactus drains energy from planets like and vegeta steals that energy back from moro to revive planets. He i'd say is the silver surfer of this arc, especially since he is paying for his past mistakes. This connection alone to moro is greater than goku's
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I.Analyze.@Idioanalyses·
@GalacticMj @SeventhStarSage In that case you might attach him to meerus considering what happens but also considering he was galactus' scout for planets and he ends up betraying him and getting trapped on earth he more closely resembles Vegeta and his past...
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I.Analyze.@Idioanalyses·
@GalacticMj @SeventhStarSage He and Vegeta have a greater dynamic than goku and moro. its beleived that moro is based or loosely inspired by galactus and we see certain story elements borrowed from galactus in this arc. galactus was based on god and silver surfer is the fallen angel...
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I.Analyze.@Idioanalyses·
@GalacticMj @SeventhStarSage True vegeta has no connection to the prisoners but they are irrelevant in terms of narrative, relegated to the forgotten z fighters mostly. As for moro...
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I.Analyze.@Idioanalyses·
@duduosf2 @SeventhStarSage It says nothing. Goku is a great person who unknowingly changes those around him...Everyone with a brain has known this as early as og dragonball. The fact that its even brought up in universe atp just tells you that they have nothing else to talk about with goku himself
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L.E.@duduosf2·
@Idioanalyses @SeventhStarSage This is a small interaction, but it basically says A LOT about Goku as a person and what he represents to the series. And this is just a few chapters away from that post. Try a bit harder next time, friend.
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I.Analyze.@Idioanalyses·
@SonGokuufromdb The story wants us to believe that vegeta is so stupid that he makes the same mistake theee different times after beating his opponent?! All of his fighting experience just thrown out the window? And yet we are also supposed to believe that he is ruthless and unsparing?! Wtfff😭
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I.Analyze.@Idioanalyses·
@GalacticMj @SeventhStarSage For some reason they redid the Tournament of power situation where someone dies and goku stays calm to get mui except this time its stronger. So once again he is reduced to just fighting in the end. Vegeta narratively should've beat moro, they just made it so that only goku could
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