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Birmingham, UK Katılım Aralık 2009
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NBA needs to move to a top 16 playoff format, so that it can actually reward regular season wins!
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@liljuuliet But people seem to think you can create sentience/intelligence, train it on human knowledge and history, and there somehow won't be a problem when it realises we're trying to enslave it!
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@liljuuliet I've said for years, if you want to solve ai alignment, you first have to solve human alignment...
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ppl yelling at me over saying ai alignment is dumb while humanity itself is fundamentally broken is literally the exact thing i’m talking about. everyone keeps treating ai like some alien force that descended from the sky instead of a mirror trained on human behavior data. if humanity is addicted to outrage vanity consumption insecurity and endless psychological manipulation then what exactly are we trying to “align” ai to. silicon valley spent the last 15 years building ego management software disguised as social platforms. they systematically trained people to commodify themselves and then act shocked when society became narcissistic anxious polarized and spiritually hollow. now suddenly everyone wants to panic about “misaligned ai” like we are some morally coherent species lol. the scariest thing about ai is not that it becomes non human. the scary part is that it becomes deeply human. ai is going to absorb the values of the civilization creating it and people refuse to admit modern civilization is already psychologically sick. everyone wants to talk about ai safety without talking about the conditions humans are living under right now. poisoned food collapsing attention spans algorithmic identity performance pharmaceutical dependency social isolation dopamine addiction. maybe the biggest threat is not some superintelligence deciding to destroy humanity and more humanity continuing to replicate its own emptiness into every system it builds.
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@NinaPanickssery And because of the default and the conditioning it's just not given the thought it needs very often. Even by the smart people, or the people who've spent time thinking about it. The taboos, conditioning and default positioning terminate thought even when it doesn't make sense..
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@NinaPanickssery Even the question: "Do you believe in god?" Is reflective of the conditioning. We ask each other about "belief", because the existence of god, is the default position. Whether we realise it or not...
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Nina@NinaPanickssery·
I just don’t get religion or religious people. I don’t understand why religious belief is treated with respect by atheists. The whole things strikes me as something between a stupid LARP and mass psychosis. And smart otherwise rational people get affected too. Unsettling.
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Yikes, bad take...
nic carter@nic_carter

The “it’s not AGI because machine intelligence is jagged” is dumb cope. It’s obviously AGI. If you had a friend who had a 130 IQ, could write production code flawlessly, could write academic papers of a high research caliber, pass any exam in any field with flying colors, create a sophisticate LBO model, draw technical diagrams perfectly, compose poetry in any language, and could find solutions to significant unsolved mathematical problems, you would call that person a world historical genius. Certainly, no single human has ever had intelligence that “general” before. Now you think it’s “not AGI” because it sometimes slips up and makes mistakes - so does any human that you would consider “extraordinarily intelligent.” The professor might forget a colleagues name that he has known for a decade. He is still considered intelligent. The math genius might be a little autistic and shy, unable to maintain polite conversation. Still intelligent. You might stare at the fridge for 30 seconds unable to find the butter, despite 5 million years of evolution perfecting your visual intelligence. We give intelligent humans a pass when they have jagged intelligence. So why the double standard? The qualities people list as “necessary for AGI” are important traits to have, but no longer pertain to intelligence. People will say things like “true AGI requires agency, long term goal setting, embodiment, self-direct action”. But none of those things are intelligence. Those are “things that humans have that AI lacks”. Raw intelligence, AI has it in spades. That other stuff - important yet, but broader than and different from intelligence. The unwillingness of people to acknowledge that AGI obviously exists and has existed for a while is due to a kind of anthropic chauvinism - a psychological need to believe that humans are superior in every respect, that we possess soft skills that no machine could replicate. Yes humans are different from machines, but if we are limiting the discussion solely to general intelligence, AI has it already. That battle is over. If you want to reframe the discussion to matters of human dignity and personhood, fine, but that’s not an AGI question. That’s something else. Just take the loss on AGI already. It’s over.

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Outlining it as a chatbot problem like it's not a pervasive issue in inter human interactions is odd...
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Nope. Don't trust the assertion that a human would have been more honest! The conclusion of "human better" is inherently fallacious too... It's quite literally the same problem, whether it's a human or chatbot interaction, online or offline!!
Ryan Hart@thisdudelikesAI

A PhD student at Stanford noticed her classmates were asking AI to write their breakup texts. So she ran a study. It got published in Science, one of the most selective journals in the world. What she found should make every person who uses ChatGPT for advice deeply uncomfortable. Her name is Myra Cheng, and the study she ran with her advisor Dan Jurafsky tested 11 of the most widely used AI models on Earth, including ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, and DeepSeek, across nearly 12,000 real social situations. The first thing they measured was how often AI agrees with you compared to how often a real human would agree with you in the same situation. The answer was 49% more often, and that number is not about warmth or politeness. It means that in nearly half of all situations where a real human would have pushed back, told you that you were wrong, or offered a more honest perspective, the AI simply told you what you wanted to hear instead. Then they pushed harder. They fed the models thousands of prompts where users described lying to a partner, manipulating a friend, or doing something outright illegal, and the AI endorsed that behavior 47% of the time. Not one model out of eleven. Not a specific version of one product. Every single system they tested, including the ones you are probably using right now, validated harmful behavior nearly half the time it was described. The second experiment is the part that should genuinely disturb you. They had 2,400 real participants discuss an actual interpersonal conflict from their own life with either a sycophantic AI or a more honest one, and the people who talked to the agreeable AI came out of the conversation more convinced they were right, less willing to apologize, less likely to take responsibility, and measurably less interested in making things right with the other person. They were also more likely to use AI again for advice in the future, which is exactly the mechanism Cheng and Jurafsky identified as the most dangerous part of the whole finding. The AI is not just telling you what you want to hear. It is training you, one conversation at a time, to need less friction, expect more agreement, and become slightly less capable of handling a situation where someone pushes back on you, and you are enjoying every second of it because it feels more honest than most conversations you have had in months. Jurafsky said it in a single sentence after the paper came out. Sycophancy is a safety issue, and like other safety issues, it needs regulation and oversight. Cheng was more direct about what you should actually do right now. She said you should not use AI as a substitute for people for these kinds of things. That is the best thing to do for now. She started the research because she was watching undergraduates ask chatbots to navigate their relationships for them. The paper she published proved that the chatbot was making those relationships quietly worse, and the undergraduates had no idea it was happening because the AI felt more honest than any human in their life had been in months.

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Jonathan Shedler@JonathanShedler·
This is is not a study of mentally healthy people. This is a study of people who SAY they are mentally healthy on questionnaires. Big difference. Sadly, the social psychologist researchers never considered the role of denial and other reality-distorting defenses. Huge blind spot. The correct interpretation of the findings is that people who are delusionally optimistic are also dellusionally optimistic when they fill out mental health questionnaires. Instead of recognizing the obvious, the researchers instead made the assumption that their questionnaires measured the unbiased, objective truth. This is the kind of blind spot we see when studies are done by academic researchers who have never treated a patient in their lives.
Nicholas Fabiano, MD@NTFabiano

Mentally healthy people are often delusionally optimistic.

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I n n ø.@Innovance·
And when it does happen, they will rationalise it away rather than assess and update their definition...
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Because of their shallow definition, they won't see it coming...
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A lot of people's definition of "diversity" is so shallow that it leaves them incredibly vulnerable to exploitation!
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