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@revsolana @ScripeWoW .....what? That's a bit aggressive. I'm just a mediocre 3k M+ enjoyer/*maybe* gets CE guy who likes to do hard content. I just recognize Blizz can't possibly tune for the level of coordination and resources they have. Don't get me wrong, L'ura is wild and A+ for them.

@Intol0913 @ScripeWoW Ok blizzard employee on a alt account, you said your gay shitty part, lets go build a fuckin house in wow and collect mounts all day... said no one ever

Damn we are literally suffering from success

@YorkshireTitan8 @sweggles1 ....you recognize this is a compounded issue right? Sweggles talking about the bug that literally turns off our talents. Straight up can't heal when that happens. So losing Vantus on top of that is just making it worse. Spec breaking bug and Blizz hasnt even acknowledged it.

@sweggles1 What do you mean you've never seen a bug this bad? Theres been so many bad, game altering bugs in the past, all this does is remove your shitty vantus rune

never seen a bug this badly lol look at the vantus rune duration the tierset bug straight up removes their vantus rune mid fight

@BottleOfScrumpe @YesNoMaybeOrSo @ScripeWoW This raid is "undertuned" (I disagree with this, but that's a different issue) because of the sweeping changes they made to UIs/gameplay/etc. Max literally called this months ago. They went in to this trying to simplify stuff, given the bloat of the last few expansions.

@YesNoMaybeOrSo @Intol0913 @ScripeWoW for them and requires too much work?

@BottleOfScrumpe @YesNoMaybeOrSo @ScripeWoW and I think that's the solution: It's gonna be too easy for the ~1000 people who no-life this, but it becomes attainable for the ~50,000 of us who get left behind every tier now, scrambling and bashing our face in to a wall *hoping* blizz nerfs it in time.

@BottleOfScrumpe @YesNoMaybeOrSo @ScripeWoW victory laps to get everyone their mount, etc. was fun. This insanity of smashing our faces in to hundreds of pulls per boss ruins a lot of the fun for, and I speak from experience, most of the playerbase. There's gotta be some middle ground here.

@BottleOfScrumpe @ScripeWoW There is genuinely no viable solution here. Blizzard doesn't have the flexibility/resources to tune for race AND THEN nerf for the rest of us at a reasonable pace, which results in incredible levels of burnout as the last few expansions have progressed. The numbers show it.

@BottleOfScrumpe @ScripeWoW Without fail, end bosses that RWF consider amazing (read: tuned for them) inevitably turn in to waiting games for literally the *entire* raiding community until Blizzard makes it even remotely reasonable to attempt, and even then it's slow, at best.

@Memorykk @RogerbrownWoW And I wanna be clear: This is 100% a problem Blizz has created and continually feeds by reacting that way every time. RWF is super fun, but tuning around it, and dedicating dev time for this minute population, without fail, results in insane difficulty bloat for the rest of us.

@Memorykk @RogerbrownWoW You're not wrong, but the Hockey Stick curve of difficulty that has been the direct result of RWF, where the final ~2 bosses get giga buffed to accomodate the 700 splits they do raise the ceiling significantly, and the nerfs come incredibly slow, as the data has shown.

Beloren and Lura better be some of the hardest bosses to ever exist after this. Need a combined 500+ pulls between them to salvage this tier.

@megasett I missed it. What's the issue with Sheilun's?

mistweaver had a really rough beta but overall pretty happy with the performance heading into mythic (not a fan of the sheilun's gift raid stuff going on though, so hopefully that gets addressed)

@lunaire_rndm I agree. I've been MW forever. The swings I get to deal with every tier where they can't figure out what to do with my spec causes whiplash every tier.

@Intol0913 that's my only hope, especially since I was playing all beta with several healers and watching a static decline of disc but paying this price for having the shittiest 1st m+ week is so exhausting

@lunaire_rndm I mean I understand there are some personal annoyances here for you on R.Druid, but again, the actual data is not reflecting your feelings. It's public data anyone can see. In Raid: Resto druid is lagging. Flat out. Disc is performing well. Flat out. Perception ≠ Facts

@Intol0913 their performance will get way better in 20 man anyway like it happens almost all the time during first weeks happy for those comfy furry asses that they will get more love (again, and again, and again).

@lunaire_rndm The tuning last night was *raid oriented* specifically. Look at their tuning roadmap. After next week, we'll unequivocally see M+ based tuning once those numbers start coming in. The reality is R.Druid was weak, and Disc was strong in raid. That's factually true.

@Intol0913 This Expiation era with high dmg is a necessity, but just nerf overall dmg with already useless penance, random stuff, execute fishing for sw:death feels so bad and clunky BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, and this buff for flash and shield is doing almost nothing for m+ heal.

@lunaire_rndm This feels like cherry picking. The individual specs themselves, not the hero talent choices people decide to make, had a pretty big disparity in performances. Disc needed a damage nerf, but needed compensation in M+. Resto needed a healing buff in raid, but nerf in M+.

@Intol0913 And buffing smend? Oh, yeah, my fav talent that procs either in aoe multidot scenario or maybe 5 times per boss battle, so huge! Pressing shield w/o void shield proc with this mana spending is too risky, so outside of vshield is not that good. >>>

@lunaire_rndm Wait your arguement is for VW? Oracle was already out-performing VW before these changes, and will now be even better with these changes. The percentiles I showed you in the other reply is 70% oracle already.

@Intol0913 Yes, disc damage is high cuz that was the only way to heal through shitty aton nerfs for several months straight, and nerfing damage even more is ACTUALLY causing a pretty heavy loss for burst healing of VWeaver. >>>