@fumitokihime Ren was 17, 5 years ago. i highly doubt she was acting like a 13 year old back then, she was graduating highschool. he likely had a vague enough idea of her age to know she was not 13 when they first meant
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IvoryF8
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IvoryF8
@Ivory2131
Never talked on twt much in the first place but this accs probs only gonna be used to talk abt zeal things, I don't rly want to get harrased but im free to chat
Katılım Nisan 2026
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You cannot have sex with someone without knowing their age, you cannot have sex with someone ASSUMING they're of age even if you've known them for long enough.
IvoryF8@Ivory2131
@veroideae Completely ignoring his autism. Given how they've known each other for years, and ren initiated things idk if its really fair to bring this up., Like is it not reasonable to assume that since they were both prty casually flirting with each other that she was of age?
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@DefSaneRudieFan @rocznik_ @MotherlyYour @ichorpuddle you should do research before claiming things, many hospitals work differently and many situations call for different handling
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@rocznik_ @MotherlyYour @ichorpuddle my experience was different but. that doesn’t sound like something hospitals should do to someone very clearly in a very vulnerable state
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Fun fact i know this from experience. When you get hospitalized for attempting suicide they take away all your devices. How the fuck were you playing Arsenal in the hospital
Urbanshade@UrbanshadeRblx
Please bear in mind that I am still hospitalized, and am going to remain here for an indeterminate amount of time.
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@elitetrician @Cheddar2039 the discord thing is also his actual mom lol, Ren knows, thats straight up his mom
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@Cheddar2039 it's not like the discord thing then???????????
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Hello, I'd really appreciate it if everyone waited for ren's new document before drawing final conclusion.
According to ren, other people who were harassed by zeal are contributing their own experience to it.
That's most likely going to add important context and show a pattern.
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@Kriscommentx @PurpleSigh192 @MicroDragonMae Out of curiosity where do you get this info? I hear that first times tend to include alot of nonverbal cues rather than verbal ones. research kinda shows the opposite of what you claim
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10…
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@Ivory2131 @PurpleSigh192 @MicroDragonMae While i understand this take, non verbal consent i tend to see in developed relationships, AFTER first sexual encounters.
Is this the same for every relation?? Probably not, but assuming non verbal consent is acceptable with a first time partner who you dont even date is idiotic
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People aren't understanding that many of us supported Ren when the info came out, but after seeing how bad her document was, full of genuine paranoia and very little true evidence, we were forced to lean towards Zeal. Especially now, with her omitting the kissing part. (Cont.)
Icky Vicky@IckyVickyRblx
After reading Ren’s and Zeal’s documents, it is now clear that Ren falsely portrayed Zeal as manipulative because she felt rejected, since he didn’t want to be in a committed relationship with her. Here is my analysis of Zeal’s doc which proves my point. docs.google.com/document/d/1F8…
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@InTeaSoul @veroideae She purposefully obscures what autism is to make it seem lesser than her BPD. she attacks the very notion of how him having could affect his behavior in any way. why not point to direct evidence in her book that would support her claims?
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@InTeaSoul @veroideae If anything, the fact that Ren never once explains autism and what it is seems strange. she apparently bought a book and read up on it. And yet she only uses autism vaguely to attack Zeal, like a weapon so people ignore the fact. If she knew so much why not mention it directly
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if you bring this up they'll just blame this on his autism
Sage Holland@BeetleCandee
@bub_bud_ I see no one talking about this point either. He asked for Ren's age AFTER the fact. Even if SOMEHOW this was "consentual," if Ren WAS underage (which he acknowledged could very well be a possibility by saying this), by default, there's no consent at all. He did not address this.
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@FishleyMackerel @thloveofthgame Doesn't entirely refute the potential of her messing with things to make zeal look worse. It does match with both sources retellings since things like giggling are nonverbal. Zeal saw that she was enjoying his advances and he saw as a greenlight to continue. not new info
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to start off
"consent cannot be retracted 6 months later" really pissed me off cause from the looks of it, ren was forced into giving consent cause they were afraid of zeal leaving
secondly "I didn't pin ren down, I held their hands above their head" is LITERALLY pinning ren down
chrissy-♡@thloveofthgame
you make me fucking sick you're a despicable person
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@PurpleSigh192 @MicroDragonMae most ppl who defend zeal ,and zeal himself believe that non verbal consent is a thing. these ppl were taught differently than you, your fundamentally unable to argue if you believe nonverbal consent isn't a thing. many sexual relationships utilize nv consent, it exist
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@MicroDragonMae what is your excuse for him not asking for consent to finger ren when all she asked for was a kiss and dont tell me "non-verbal consent" cause that isnt a thing or a defense he still didnt take accountability for it only made an excuse for it
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@viral_spirals By "lie" I mean omitt facts from her doc and then purposefully rearrange things to fit with a new narrative. Why do you believe her retelling over zeals?
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@viral_spirals She's been proven to lie about her own communication so Its hard to not doubt she even yelled this, but in her own doc he legit does what you wanted.
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@thloveofthgame @FishleyMackerel If she has previously been proven to omitt her own communication, how can i trust what she claims about her further communication? and about how that encounter initiated in the first place?
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@thloveofthgame @FishleyMackerel she communicated with him multiple times which is shown in both ren and zeals doc (more so in zeals doc, features a couple more examples of verbal communication). and she was not non verbal when she asked for a kiss. Ren purposefully leaves out this communication
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@siNnypookster @therealjuge ( angry ex here is kind of a wierd comment, she "wanted" a romantic relationship but they never got into one, she was obv very upset by how their relationship ended )
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@siNnypookster @therealjuge I agree that he is a sex pest. its just hard to take her side when she may not be being truthful. its not like she doesnt have a motivation to ruin the game, and zeals reputation. She hates the dev team and zeal, and holds grudges often. if she is an "angry ex" whats stoping her
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@siNnypookster @therealjuge While at first I came to the same conclusion as you, doubting Ren purposely omitting things like this. I no longer believe that is the case. This makes it difficult to believe Rens descriptions of things because now the intent of the Doc itself is in question
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@siNnypookster @therealjuge This claim is from the fact that a friend of Rens decided to inform me of exactly this while we were conversing. i have since been blocked and the messages have since been deleted. This all looks extremely suspicious to me
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