J. 05

@moon63363 @Muneeb_08 i understand that u have a problem with reading bro but i never said that hazard can offer more than messi in the prem

@J04512 @Muneeb_08 a wrong info for a wrong info , they were not saying ronaldo , oh its the guy that think hazard can offer more than mess in the prem 😭

Portland fans chanting Ronaldo's name in front of the fifa baby and he got rattled 😭😭

@moon63363 @Muneeb_08 bro only spreading wrong information on X

@Muneeb_08 i dont think he cares about the rapist

@moon63363 @TouchlineX by the same i mean u compare them over the same abilities / strenghts which they have in common and then u conclude how messi cant do better but hazard has much more which makes that he succeeded in the prem.

@J04512 @TouchlineX sure i didnt say they are the same i said between those () that messi is superior to hazard (i think you are the one having reading problems pal), and i think i had enough here good luck this is not going anywhere

Messi vs Cristiano.

@moon63363 @TouchlineX stop putting words in my mouth bro i didnt say that they dont help defensively, i said they could stay upfront, defending starts upfront and attacking starts with defenders and gk. what i mean by that is that in la liga most players dont have to run up and down as in the pl

@J04512 @TouchlineX no i wasnt the one who brought the defensive abilities to this convo , i just corrected u on your view on messi cuz am prety sure you did include him with mbappe and vini with the category of players that dont help defensively , i wasnt even gonna bring defense here

@moon63363 @TouchlineX the hazard messi comparison is dumb bc these are two completely different players and if u think they the same u watched all those years for nothing. if u want i can explain the differences between them

@J04512 @TouchlineX my bad sorry i cant read , also you didnt answer the hazard messi comparison, is it too dumb or too strong of an argument

@moon63363 @TouchlineX nobody ever said 4 times in one week, u see u dont even read😂. i said saturday- wednesday- friday/saturday- wednesday so 4 times in 11/12 days

@J04512 @TouchlineX be honest with yourself , i support city in England and i have been watching them for 6 years now , not all games are fully intense as you are saying , maybe half , please stop treating it as a rule, and again no one is playing 4 games a week that never happened

@moon63363 @TouchlineX bro u dont understand my point, u cant say beforehand that messi can succeed in the prem bc he showed u that he can press and play at high intensity but u have to do it ALL season with many more games in order to dominate a league

@J04512 @TouchlineX to make it easier or dumber (depends on how you see it) if hazard , was phenomenal in the prem , how messi (the upgrade in dribbling playmaking goalscoring passing and physicality) is not gonna do better than him

@moon63363 @TouchlineX across multiple seasons, the Pl consistently shows: highertotal distance covered per match More high-intensity runs per player More repeated sprint actions More frequent transitions (attack → defense → attack) Less recovery time inside matches due to continuous tempo shift

@moon63363 @TouchlineX never said he cant adapt, but messi never showed something realistic to us to say he can dominate the league while u come up with the good games against the big 6 and presses but my point there is that its not relevant bc of all the games (2-4 per week) full intensity in england

@J04512 @TouchlineX and my point is messi can adapt to the prem , if numbers , and watching him press and do his defensive roles cant convince you , what can ? 😅 nothing ? you are thinking of it as a rule , if it was a rule no laliga player would have succeed in the prem and the opposite

@moon63363 @TouchlineX sometimes la liga was harder? bro what u talkin ab? technical for sure but physical no way. sure messi did run back when losing the ball but in the prem its week in week out high intensity, transitions while barca was always in control of spaces and and thats my point

@J04512 @TouchlineX again man i said it three times now , the leagues changed sometimes laliga were harder , most times prem was harder , your argument is messi cant keep up with the prem pace, intensity and style in general because he needs to do defensive roles , and am here saying he did do them

@moon63363 @TouchlineX messi played in barcelona in his prime didnt he? barcelona mostly had the ball on the side of the opponent so tell me how the physical intensity is higher than the prem

@J04512 @TouchlineX didnt talk about barcelona i talked about messi pressing ability , u said he doesn't press no ? our topic is messi here , and yes he could adapt to the prem , can u tell me witch messi is in your head 😭 hope it not today's messi

@moon63363 @TouchlineX Bro prime Barcelona almost always had the ball what u sayin, in the prem its running back running upfront almost the whole time, its not compareable

@J04512 @TouchlineX messi was pressing in his primes especialy in the meddle , do u think he was walking on the field like he does now all his life ? for how many years did u watch messi ?

@moon63363 @TouchlineX la liga was never harder in physical way bro so it doesnt matter which timeframe i use. i think u mix the tempo of the ball (tiki taka) where barcelona was constantly on the opponents side with intensity of runs, chaotic transitions off the premier league

@J04512 @TouchlineX not trying to be disrespectful but are we talking about today prem and laliga or 2008-2020 (messi in Europe) cuz you are verry wrong about this point especially 2012-2018 laliga was the harder league correct me if am wrong

@moon63363 @TouchlineX 3: clubs who go far in fa cup and carabao have like saturday prem, tuesday and wednesday cl , saturday prem and then the wednesday fa cup or carabao, and then the next week they only have prem and cl. thats the thing, its not structured which makes it even harder

@J04512 @TouchlineX messi is physically strong , doesnt rely mostly on his pace , he dominated when laliga was better than the prem 3 i dint understand the last point , the most a tem can play is 3 games a week how were u able to add a 4th game can u tell me when that happened

@moon63363 @TouchlineX La liga more physical?😂 thats a very wrong take, harder to break the defenses is more tactical isnt it? in pl the ball is constantly going from side to side which results in more transitions and more sprints if u compare it to la liga. Spain they play more in control of spaces

@J04512 @TouchlineX 2 yes prem games have better pace , but only that doesnt make it harder , laliga is more physical the players there were more aggressive , defenses were harder to break thats the identity of the league , my question now is why do u think messi isnt able to the prem

@moon63363 @TouchlineX but to do u a favour ill react: u use the games in cl as a mark that messi can do it in the prem, but its diff: in england are more games, at a higher intensity, direct football, more sprints than in La liga, less rest moments. sometimes they play sat, tue, fri and wednesday,

@J04512 @TouchlineX 1 ronaldo did it in top 3 leagues messi scared to leave laliga 2 messi did better than ronaldo against the elite in the prem but he cant do it in the prem 3 why cant messi do it in the prem when he did better than ronaldo against them ? well thats off topic and irrelevant

@moon63363 @TouchlineX thats an other topic, not the topic i was talking about and u reacted on. u only come up with irrelevant things🤣

@J04512 @TouchlineX am trying to understand why , am not asking u to retype "playing against top 6 doesn't mean he could dominate the league" for the 100TH time , just say why he wouldn't succeed 😭😭😭

@moon63363 @TouchlineX 2:i dont think its farmer league but for messi its his comfortzone, thats why i said he s scared to leave the comfortable laliga. 3: hé indeed played good against top 6 but that doesnt mean he could dominate the league, so you tryna make a point out of something irrelevant

@J04512 @TouchlineX 1 i might be dumb 2 idk why do u think la liga is a farmer league to call it "safe", also loyal ≠ scared to leave or have a new challenge (i know u didnt say it but it feels like a type of shaming) 3 how him playing good against English teams doesn't help his case here ≠

@moon63363 @TouchlineX im not saying he cant do it, i was telling that ronaldo did it in almost every league while messi stayed safe in la liga. then your counter is that messi played good against the top 6 which doesnt say anything at all

@J04512 @TouchlineX he farmed spurs, man united and Liverpool brace in all those games2019 with one of the worst barca sides in history,and no dont lie to your self prem games are not always intense,tell me why messi cant do it in the prem like an undeniable fact of how he will 100% fail in the prem