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Robert Jordan

@J0MBi1

And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee. Just some guy with a big opinion of himself and a twitter account.

Dystopian Nightmare Katılım Ağustos 2021
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Robert Jordan
Robert Jordan@J0MBi1·
I find the characterisation of people who still care about #SARSCoV2 hilarious. We're supposed to be crazy outcast losers, but this group might be the most reasonable, sane and heroic group I've had the pleasure of encountering. We just don't follow the pack.
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To me it feels like the talk of jet fuel melting steel beams & controlled demolitions all over again. Humans love a cohesive narrative, but sometimes it really is just a random event where those with power decide to capitalise on it to further their own preexisting agenda.
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Robert Jordan@J0MBi1·
It's also a bit of a gateway drug to all kinds of out there speculation on the "true purpose" of SARSCoV2, which is something I really don't want to spend my time discussing. The underlying facts of the virus & the government response is so bad that I'd much rather focus on that.
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Robert Jordan@J0MBi1·
No, it IS about whether having looked at the circumstantial evidence and decided on the balance of probably it does not support this theory of the case. This 👇could be correct, but I have to find "not proven". But that's just my opinion, others may interpret it differently.
Entropy☃️Chase@EntropyChase

@J0MBi1 it's not about whether you "buy" it, it's about evidence. they sampled 80,000 wildlife samples, couldnt find the supposed intermediary host (which was found in just 6months in case of sars1). emerged near a BatCov lab that proposed inserting FCS. "nightmare of circ. evidence"

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Robert Jordan@J0MBi1·
@EntropyChase This theory has been popular for a while and I often revisit it, but I'm not really interested in arguing for or against it, because it's sort of a moot point. Unless there is also hidden research on a sterilising vaccine to go along with it, I find it neither here nor there.
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Robert Jordan@J0MBi1·
#SARSCoV2 is as big an issue as climate change, but to my knowledge there's no political party taking it seriously anymore in the West. Or am I wrong here?
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Arturo Branco 🔻@ArtorAximondi·
@J0MBi1 I've heard that Cuba and Venezuela are going way better than anywhere else in the West... Cuba specially, since it's easier to control the borders of an island... But I don't know details about any of the two...
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Robert Jordan
Robert Jordan@J0MBi1·
@HistorianBlue On top of this it's not entirely clear how long the virus persists for, there's talk of it continuing to linger and cause ongoing problems months down the line. Trying to build "herd immunity" via infection is like trying to build flood defences out of tissue paper.
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Robert Jordan
Robert Jordan@J0MBi1·
@HistorianBlue From my understanding - to rid your body of SARSCoV2 your immune system uses up vital resources each time and potentially permanently harms your ability to fight future infections. So instead of building an immunity each infection just makes you increasingly vulnerable.
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Robert Jordan@J0MBi1·
Another good thread, this information desperately needs to reach the public at large. But when it does you can expect extreme panic.
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Robert Jordan@J0MBi1·
@EntropyChase Yeah, I don't buy that theory personally. There's an estimated excess of 5000 pandemic capable viruses in natural habitats, and environmental destruction brings humans into direct contact with them. But I doubt we'll ever know for sure.
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Entropy☃️Chase
Entropy☃️Chase@EntropyChase·
@J0MBi1 respectfully, I think that connection is overstated given how many research related batCov accidents there have been in the past which had no connection to enviro damage
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Robert Jordan
Robert Jordan@J0MBi1·
@EntropyChase They are so tightly connected I see them as parts of the same thing. Both are absolute catastrophes which need action RIGHT NOW. Getting people engaged in collective action is the key to dealing with both.
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Entropy☃️Chase
Entropy☃️Chase@EntropyChase·
@J0MBi1 as concerned as I am about climate destruction, imo covid is likelier to kill people you know in your lifetime
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Robert Jordan
Robert Jordan@J0MBi1·
@ELChristopherM1 At least there's an acknowledgement that it's bad and something needs to be done about it. That's a start.
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Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. 🇺🇸
Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. 🇺🇸@AltenbergLee·
@J0MBi1 What we're witnessing—the power of the culture of commerce to undermine the public health response to COVID—bodes extremely bad for the future responses to the climate crisis. Societies seem incapable of restraining private greed that threatens the entire public & history itself.
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Windhorse @[email protected]@twee_i_a·
@J0MBi1 At what point do we declare that these two issues, are actually one broader issue? I think each issue is going to make it more difficult to tackle the other, but certainly at some point, they are going to horribly collide.
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Robert Jordan@J0MBi1·
@AltenbergLee It put the prime minister of the UK in ICU. And it's too early to say what is going to happen in the next few years. But I really don't think it's an either or with this. They are both so tightly connected both in their cause and those who oppose action on them.
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Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. 🇺🇸
Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. 🇺🇸@AltenbergLee·
@J0MBi1 By "ran fine" I don't mean to endorse that it should have run at all. I use the example only to illustrate that large-scale systems of power can operate under much more dire human conditions. And the degradation of life under SARS2 hasn't threatened the powerful here at all.
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Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. 🇺🇸
Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. 🇺🇸@AltenbergLee·
@J0MBi1 If immune dysfunction from SARS2 were actual AIDS we would see simultaneous explosions of: • Pneumocystis pneumonia (PCP) • Candidiasis (thrush) • Tuberculosis • Cytomegalovirus • Cryptococcal meningitis • Toxoplasmosis I don't see such reports. mayoclinic.org/diseases-condi…
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Robert Jordan
Robert Jordan@J0MBi1·
I don't agree with it, but I can understand why the political elite decided in 2020 to lie about the effectiveness of masks AND the dangers of #SARSCoV2 They were unprepared and worried about mass panic. But it's completely unacceptable to continue lying about it 2 years later.
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Robert Jordan@J0MBi1·
@AltenbergLee Because it just occurred to me that political parties are at least acknowledging that climate change is real where I am. But even environmentalists seem to think they are immune to airborne HIV or that it's a hoax, both need the same solution - collective action, right now
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Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. 🇺🇸
Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. 🇺🇸@AltenbergLee·
@J0MBi1 You raise a good point: we don't know what SARS2 will do going forward, we can see only what it's done for 3 years. Long-COVID as bad as AIDS—if it occurs—is not as certain as in HIV—& research on treatments has only begun. But why compare disasters when US gets a D in both?
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Robert Jordan
Robert Jordan@J0MBi1·
What do we think about this folks? Not disputing the climate part, but is a child born today going to make it to 50 if by their teens they have AIDS, along with *every other human on the planet*?
Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. 🇺🇸@AltenbergLee

@J0MBi1 The British Empire ran fine at its peak in 1920 with life expectancy 49 years. SARS2 is nowhere near to putting us back there. "Civilization owes its existence to 6" of topsoil & the fact that it rains." Famine from climate change could end the preconditions for civilization.

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Robert Jordan@J0MBi1·
@christyfraser They sound like a good place to make contact with. Thanks for the information.
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Robert Jordan@J0MBi1·
@Whitevessen1 Just can't believe the short sightedness of these folk. Wtf are they gonna retire to? What good is that money and "freedom" gonna do them when they are dying a death?
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