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@KoruuKun @MrVoidMan15 @ahajicek87 @JusticeThw40945 @CouchCactus68 About the time Ren went to therapy, I'm not sure whether to take it too seriously, since if what she told us was already full of lies + her BPD, which, according to Ren, makes her act in an erratic & exaggerated way, They could have made a wrong diagnosis which Ren took seriously

@KoruuKun @MrVoidMan15 @ahajicek87 @JusticeThw40945 @CouchCactus68 I think this situation has traumatized him for life; he'll never have a normal relationship again, if he even dares to have one after this. he'll be excessively cautious to prevent something like this from happening again, which could drive many people away.

On Twitter if you claim to be a victim, you’re correct regardless of how much counter evidence there is On Twitter if someone says you’re bad without proof you are bad

@KoruuKun @MrVoidMan15 @ahajicek87 @JusticeThw40945 @CouchCactus68 -You're right, but your fear is flawed in one aspect, and that's that you're dealing with an insecure man. -He's suggesting just being friends not because he wants that, but because he assumes that's what you want. -If he blocks you and leaves you, it's because your actions....

@KoruuKun @MrVoidMan15 @ahajicek87 @JusticeThw40945 @CouchCactus68 My mistake there, I got confused and forgot how cowardly Zeal is in difficult situations.

@KoruuKun @MrVoidMan15 @ahajicek87 @JusticeThw40945 @CouchCactus68 -I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply that's what you meant." -I think Ren mostly has a huge need for attention. She created a Discord server for a reason, where everyone adores her and doesn't question her.

@JERB__7 @MrVoidMan15 @ahajicek87 @JusticeThw40945 @CouchCactus68 In these aspects, I never said ren was right in breaking his boundaries by talking about it to others. I’m not defending ren on this at all. It comes off like she wants all the men around her. It could be her mental illnesses, I had an issue when I was younger with feeling a

@KoruuKun @MrVoidMan15 @ahajicek87 @JusticeThw40945 @CouchCactus68 -Ren was simply silenced, She can just create another account and not speak about the matter anymore so she could carry on as if nothing had happened. -Meanwhile, people like Gianni and many artists will use their connections to make sure Zeal can never recover or get help.

@KoruuKun @MrVoidMan15 @ahajicek87 @JusticeThw40945 @CouchCactus68 -This is the only thing that bothers me most about Ren. -Zeal and Ren certainly made mistakes, but Zeal isn't the only one affected by all of this and at least Zeal learned his lesson and came out incredibly damaged physically, economically and socially.

@KoruuKun @MrVoidMan15 @ahajicek87 @JusticeThw40945 @CouchCactus68 You're right, but using your own example, "a man isn't trying to manipulate you every time he feels emotional" have some empathy too. I made the mistake of letting those words lead me to assume something bad about Ren, just as you used other words to assume something about Zeal.

@JERB__7 @MrVoidMan15 @ahajicek87 @JusticeThw40945 @CouchCactus68 She didn’t just “decide to say” she was feeling depressed. She vented and cried for hours. Women aren’t trying to manipulate you every time they’re feeling emotional. Have some empathy

@KoruuKun @MrVoidMan15 @ahajicek87 @JusticeThw40945 @CouchCactus68 You are right, and just as you say, Zeal noticed the mistake in his judgment and decided to stop.

@JERB__7 @MrVoidMan15 @ahajicek87 @JusticeThw40945 @CouchCactus68 Ren didn’t ask at all, they only did it two times. A mutual kiss after ren was having an emotional breakdown isn’t begging for fingering or consenting to it.

@KoruuKun @MrVoidMan15 @ahajicek87 @JusticeThw40945 @CouchCactus68 Furthermore, Ren clarified that she found Zeal's poor verbal communication skills adorable, but that at least he was better at expressing himself with his body (Zeal's autism maybe?). Then she said that Zeal wasn't her type, but Cyborg was, in an attempt to seduce him. Why?

@KoruuKun @MrVoidMan15 @ahajicek87 @JusticeThw40945 @CouchCactus68 Besides, that same day Ren went to brag to Cyborg about what happened and how amazing that day was for her. Why does Ren always tell Cyborg everything about her and Zeal? That's supposed to be private, and by doing that, she's breaking Zeal's trust and boundaries.

@KoruuKun @MrVoidMan15 @ahajicek87 @JusticeThw40945 @CouchCactus68 From that day on, Zeal never did it with Ren again. Then he decided to break up with her, and months passed. But it turns out that escaping the situation that day was considered SA. If Zeal had decided to stay with Ren, as you said, would it have been better or worse?

@KoruuKun @MrVoidMan15 @ahajicek87 @JusticeThw40945 @CouchCactus68 Although it seems strange to me that on that same day, Ren asked Cyborg if she could go to his house, asking him to continue what Zeal hadn't finished.

@KoruuKun @MrVoidMan15 @ahajicek87 @JusticeThw40945 @CouchCactus68 The best thing to do when dealing with someone indecisive would be to leave the place so she can collect her thoughts and try again another day, but wouldn't that also be manipulation? What things can even be considered manipulation at this point?

@KoruuKun @MrVoidMan15 @ahajicek87 @JusticeThw40945 @CouchCactus68 But if I say that, based on what you said before, I'm manipulating her into saying yes, and if it turns out she doesn't want to do it again, then out of nowhere I've just SA her. Someone with bad intentions can say exactly what you recommended to me in order to manipulate.