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@SleshStuart @HazelAppleyard_ But, it's not. Only the WBO, WBC, IBF, and WBA are.
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If you were a woman, who had XX chromosome test results, and you were competing in sports, and the world was accusing you of having XY chromosomes and being a cheater and a man, what would you do?
Release your test results?
Or demand they be kept secret?
#Paris2024

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@atalanta44 @FondOfBeetles I guess the independent test done by the IBA don't count. 🤷♀️
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OK, amid the chaos that most journalists are using as misdirection, what *did* we learn at the IBA conference yesterday?
The two boxers were tested twice.
(This is a good thing. Duplication of tests is necessary to ensure reliable data.)
The testing was done by reliable lab facility.
(The IBA saying they are WADA-certified labs is their way of saying the tests were not done with an Internet kit in someone’s kitchen. BBC @SeanPaulKearns might note that they weren’t saying testing was done by WADA 😉)
The testing was genetic, and the results mean that both boxers were ineligible for the female category.
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The IBA define their female category as XX.
The IBA will not reveal individual results.
(This is ethically correct, in the absence of consent from the athletes. They are upholding privacy and medical confidentiality.)
The IBA tell us explicitly that in the absence of actual results, we should “read between the lines”.
(Reading between the lines, the athletes are XY. There is no reasonable alternative reading.)
The IBA mentioned a “male karyotype”.
(As well as confirming XY, this tells me the test process involved direct visualisation of chromosomes from cellular material. This is an entirely rational “first step” in the context of a sex screen. I would argue for a different method, but let’s wait until I get asked…)
The IBA mentioned high testosterone, yet their statement in the test procedure say that testosterone testing was not undertaken.
(An entirely reasonable interpretation is that T testing wasn’t part of the sex screen, but T levels in these athletes is known via other screens like anti-doping. Someone - a journalist maybe - should ask them. Rushing to a formal endocrine profile as part of a sex screen is not a particularly obvious thing to do, and it may be that this is what the IBA meant.)
With an XY karyotype and high testosterone (from which the presence of testes can be strongly - and I mean strongly - inferred), these athletes have, so far, the male-typical biology that is relevant in sport.
That’s what we know, if we don’t pretend we can’t detect the signal through the noise^
What can we think about moving forward?
If both athletes were observed as female at birth, and have XY chromosomes, medical follow up must be made available to them.
The typical medical flowcharts for follow up testing would elucidate, if present, an XY DSD. This is, I think, important health information for them, whatever happens in sport.
Understanding the precise DSD would permit rational categorisation according to the possibility of male advantage.
All this should have been done years ago.
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I’ve just taken quite a narrow view, not trying to capture the whole picture.
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@574M6507 @lehmanlaw @Riley_Gaines_ I must have seen an outdated record, unless this also includes her Olympic career and organized event fights as well. I just went off her pro record.
But a KO ratio of 15% shows she isn't insanely stronger than the other women she faces
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@JESportsDorks @lehmanlaw @Riley_Gaines_ the record is actually 44-9 with 6kos. And most of Imane’s losses were when she was younger, fighting more experienced boxers. 5 losses are in 2018-2019, Imane’s debut, and Imane’s last loss was in January 2023. The other losses are pretty much once yearly between those times.

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@574M6507 @lehmanlaw @Riley_Gaines_ The ties to the Russian mob is why the IBA is no longer a sanctioning body. Its not outrageous
It isnt ruining women's sports. Khelif isnt even that great a fighter. Shes 36-9 in her professional fights against women. With 4 KOs. So she obviously doesnt have great punching power
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@JESportsDorks @lehmanlaw @Riley_Gaines_ I feel that denying one conspiracy by adding another doesnt make sense.
I still think a sex test is the best move, the claim about the russian mob seems outrageous. There has to be a way to protect Imane while also letting the truth out, this isnt an excuse to ruin womens sports
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@574M6507 @lehmanlaw @Riley_Gaines_ Istvan Kovacs has ties to the Russian mob. He's the one who made the initial claim. You don't fuck with the Russian mob.
Besides, the burden of proof lies with the accuser. And his proof thus far had been "trust me bro"
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@JESportsDorks @lehmanlaw @Riley_Gaines_ If the russian mob is even behind this entire ordeal (it’s a theory) and can’t be sued, at least she would clear her name in the eyes of the people. It’s still a bad argument as to why Imane shouldn’t get tested.
Either way, testing would clear the air once and for all.
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@574M6507 @lehmanlaw @Riley_Gaines_ Her father has provided a birth certificate and a passport. From a country where it's illegal to be gay, and being transgender likely means death. They would not have her representing their country if so.
Plus, you are talking about suing the actual Russian mob.
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@JESportsDorks @lehmanlaw @Riley_Gaines_ What you’re saying could be correct, yet also be another conspiracy within itself. As I stated before, if Imane just takes a test, not only can Imane probably sue the IBA for millions, but also clear Imane’s entire name. The real question is, why does Imane refuse testing?
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@574M6507 @lehmanlaw @Riley_Gaines_ Bc the IBA is corrupt, and no longer a sanctioned body of boxing. And the guy that used to run it, is now the euro vp of the WBO. who's to say they don't try to manipulate the test?
And now the IBA is trying to pay the Italian she beat. It all screams set up

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@JESportsDorks @lehmanlaw @Riley_Gaines_ i don’t know about this, since the IBA still claims validity on these tests. i’m all for believing Imane when Imane agrees to a test. when there is this much controversy, why would u not get tested to clear your name? even when the IBA funded most of the appeal, Imane withdrew it
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@GuntherEagleman Don't forget the confederate battle flags, the nazi flags, and the trump/Maga flags.
And you know what all three of those flags have in common? They were all flown by groups who eventually lost.
So there's that
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@lehmanlaw @574M6507 @Riley_Gaines_ This is why her gender started being questioned.
The head of the IBA, which is no longer a sanctioned boxing entity bc of fraud and ties to russian drug trafficking, couldn't have his champion being defeated. So he concocted this bs story of her not being female

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@JESportsDorks @574M6507 @Riley_Gaines_ “She” beat a previously undefeated RUSSIAN boxer?
Was it Drago?
I think you are trying to support but you just offered a cup of water to someone drowning with that story.
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@Riley_Gaines_ I can't wait til she sues you into oblivion for defamation. Then we won't have to hear you cry anymore
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@574M6507 @lehmanlaw @Riley_Gaines_ The "something suspicious" was she beat a previously undefeated Russian boxer, and the Russian head of the disgraced IBA at the time couldn't have that
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@lehmanlaw @Riley_Gaines_ i think it’s because the testing from the IBA occurred in 2022, neither of them won a medal back in the 2020 olympics but i guess something was suspicious at the women’s world championship in 2022
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@defidoan @TheWacoKid11 @SebMendonca @DPayton1979 @_celia_bedelia_ You mean this IBA? The organization who only came out against Khelif after she beat a previously undefeated Russian?

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@TheWacoKid11 @SebMendonca @DPayton1979 @_celia_bedelia_ The IBA has presented it. Maybe if old boy wants to run a test then it’ll be solved wouldnt it? It’s very telling that all you weirdos aren’t pushing for the test to clear all doubt. You all know he ain’t passing and just living in denial 😂😂
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@1_truth_always @JoeyMannarinoUS Omg how scary 🙄🙄. Lmao.
You really thought this was gonna do something, huh? A country constitutionally bound to freedom of religion is allowing its citizens to practice religion freely
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@JoeyMannarinoUS Remember!! This is on Walz watch!
Minneapolis becomes first major U.S. city to broadcast Islamic call to prayer 5 times per day pbs.org/newshour/natio…
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@LauraLoomer Maybe bc you are a proven fraud who harasses men at bars to have sex with you
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On July 17th, I hit 1 million followers.
It’s been 2.5 weeks and I am now at 1.2 million followers.
That’s 200,000 more in 2.5 weeks.
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@Sanctified82 @MDHadter @Riley_Gaines_ Sooooo... you mean every "conservative" with a donald trump decked out truck?
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@JosephSher12404 @TheRightGirl47 @VoteHarrisOut You forgot this never happened. Yaw will really believe anything. Lmao
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@TheRightGirl47 @VoteHarrisOut You forgot Riley Gaines successfully suing whoopi
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@770locks @hodgetwins Maybe you can tell us why Kamala backed out of the debate held by the Black Journalists Association? Trump was there.
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@pepeppepppepep @MrJonCryer This is just one of his personalities. He's also a "TRUE black American woman" and who knows what else. Lmao
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Hi Republicans,
I know it makes you mad when I point out that your party has become a personality cult, and I get it. Who wants to hear that from that dork who was on Two and a Half Men?
But sadly, that doesn’t make it any less true.
Your party has turned its back on its values and exists now only as a vehicle of personal loyalty to Donald Trump.
When you’re in a cult, honor, competence, and integrity become defects to be expunged. Because those qualities can be perceived as threats to the leader. Especially one as deeply corrupt and incompetent as Trump.

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