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@PoIarxD @BZC96 @Separer Just save your breath man they will just say it’s a player base issue despite there being no major player count change after the update came out that fucked lobbies. They just want SBMM or some version of it in every game.

@BZC96 @Separer how is it unpredictable if we are matching the same people with the same stuff on the same maps over and over bro

10 outpost games with @Separer , myself, and a lvl60 friend. Only 5ish players of those games under level 100 (and not by much.) The steam achievement for hitting level 100 is 2.5% on steam, which is where most of the playerbase is. Do the math and tell me there's no sbmm.

@tmc6399 @Mapocolops Yes the way they try to justify sbmm in every single game is impressive

@Mapocolops So what you’re saying is if you’re good at the game and you dont queue ranked you deserve to be put into sbmm lobbies because they need a taste of their own medicine

Very interesting past week with queues on Marathon honestly. Let's yap: Sponsored Queue gamers really enjoying the opportunity to catch up, be on an equal playing field, get some annoying Marsh contracts completed and get a better feel for the game without being stomped immediately. It's been a great time spending time in this mode. More PvP heavy so encourages different tactics about finding locations for other guns and leads to more interesting gunfight encounters and is a great way for anyone to be improving their overall game sense and skills within the game. And then on the other hand we have high level, fully kitted out gamers, mostly streamers pushing lvl 100, 200+ complaining about being matched with other high level fully kitted out players diminishing their enjoyment of the game. I mean, how do you think all those lower tier crews have been feeling while you lobby wipe, hunting players down or even engaging in Cryo spawn rushing, and now during this matchmaking bug you've been paired up with consistently similar crews in terms of gear/playstyle, the game is frustrating for you... These players being faced with what they've been putting on other players this whole time, is just a bit humorous but maybe this is a hot take to highlight that you're up against players that actually challenge you and that's when you get upset and want to step away from the game. Understandable when the complaints are touching on actual ping/server stability and queue times, but seeing the complaints that players are encountering the same kits as they also usually run...what's the issue? You now might actually burn through those 65 gold Bully mods in the vault or get the good loot you crave instead of complaining the crew fill you destroyed doesn't have anything. This isn't every case but it's absolutely the majority of complaints I've seen this week, along with people upset the sponsored queue even exists for reasons like there's no good loot (that's what the other queues are for) and that it takes players from other queues. Be for real though, it's just a 2 week experimental queue so let another part of the player base enjoy the game for a bit? Really loving the creative ways to engage in the gameplay loop with experimental ideas, I think it's great especially if it can open the game up for more players to get more Ws instead of stacking Ls and quitting. Matchmaking bug seemingly fixed with a bunch of other stuff this week, hopefully most can enjoy the game across the board, maybe see some more C.A.R.R.I. event successes and less upset about purple/gold kits annoyed that they are fighting other purple/gold kits. @Ziegler_Dev love your work with the frequent comms, I miss duos every day can you get her to return my calls so we can link up ASAP. P.S. Also could you please give Triage an Achromatic Rush skin he's all alone out there <3

@ShalashaskaFL @DrewskysChannel Nope when I rook I get into regular lobbies against mixed player base it has nothing to do with sponsored dire marsh

@JakeCoker55 @DrewskysChannel Yeah and with the introduction of Sponsored Darsh you’re being forced to play against people who are as geared up as you are because it further splintered the player base. No need to get emotional that you can’t pub stomp lobbies anymore bud.

I love and play Marathon more than most that I know, however this week has really burnt me out. Should things not improve Tuesday I feel I'm left with the painful decision to stop putting in as much playtime. I understand there is a bug that is contributing to this, however I fear that Level-Based Matchmaking in combination with the Free Kit Queue is resulting in what feels like incredibly small player pools. Whether its Cryo or Marsh, I'm constantly matchmaking names I know. Things are no longer unpredictable, there isn't any more excitement to the unknown. Queue times are long and drawn out. Some players queuing in with pre-made teams. I'm often faced with full end-game top teams repeatedly, regardless of if I'm loading in with Green reinforced shields for an eco run (I frequently use credits/armory builds), or a Gold loadout. I'm frequently running into familiar faces that b/c we can see its them (no streamer mode/anonymity), play differently or are all inclined to be friendly out of respect - I'm sure many players (myself included) play differently based on names they might see. This is dismantling my enjoyment of high highs and low lows, and hindering the gameplay loop for me. I'm someone who doesn't burn out of what I love - and I've been having such a phenomenal time with the community. However its hard not to get exhausted and worn out with this experience, especially with some folks skewing my words back at me about it.

@Xlandral @Geezaws2 If they fix the bug then it would go back to what it was before the update which was the same player count lol. Boy this “player pool” thing is the dumbest take ever. Just straight bot talk

@Geezaws2 Well, I promise that when they "fix" the servers Tuesday and Cryo is no different then GG

GOOD MORNING! IT’S MONDAY. CRYO WAS ROUGH THIS WEEKEND. A BIT TOO ROUGH IT SEEMS. I PERSONALLY DO NOT BELIEVE THAT SBMM WAS SECRETLY TURNED ON; I IMAGINE IT’S MORE COMPLEX THAN THAT. HOWEVER, I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT *SOMETHING* IS VERY WRONG. FIXES TOMORROW!

@ShalashaskaFL @DrewskysChannel This is such a dumb take considering the player base is the same as it was a few days before the patch. You should critically think some before typing. No one is asking to kill green shield teams. People are saying to not be in a ranked lobby 24/7 in a non ranked playlist.

@JakeCoker55 @DrewskysChannel You’re being matched appropriately for your level in a game with a struggling player base. I get that you’re upset that you can’t wipe a lobby of green shields running 5k load outs any more, but what do you expect?

@Gamehero24 @IFrostBolt I genuinely think you just came to say “get gud” and didn’t even understand the issue being brought up. I have also not played ranked. I would be better off playing ranked since I have not played it yet over playing “casual” outpost

@JakeCoker55 @IFrostBolt I haven’t even touched ranked cause I’m progressing my contracts still. So if this is about ranked I don’t have an opinion. It seems the ppl who are past level 100 are the ones getting matched with high level gear users. I mean I thought that’s supposed to happen

This matchmaking "bug" harmed the passion I had for Marathon. Was super down to grind on non Cryo days, but I might just have to wait to play till it is back. I'm skipping on playing tomorrow. If it doesn't get better Tuesday, just like Drew said, I'll be playing less.

@Gamehero24 @IFrostBolt Then you are not in the same lobbies I am in. It’s that simple. I played 10-15 games last night against the same teams no matter what gear I brought in. Won some lost some. The point is being missed that no one wants to play ranked 24/7 hence why I didn’t que into ranked.

@JakeCoker55 @IFrostBolt Nah I ran into a green and white shield team at the opposite POI. Still was able to exfil 🤷🏾‍♂️ like I said. Pick your battles. Don’t have to fight/kill everything but it’s more fun to do so

@LegateSprinkles @IFrostBolt You are actually just brain dead. No one is saying we just want to kill lowkit players. But I also don’t want to play ranked 24/7. How difficult is that for you to understand. It should be random it’s not complicated I shouldn’t be shoved into eu and Asia lobbies

@JakeCoker55 @IFrostBolt I think you're just kinda shite mate if your joy comes more from hunting the lower geared. Im past lvl 100 sometimes I get the leg up on the higher geared, sometimes I dont. Its an extraction shooter. Why so serious? You're gonna lose the gear anyways

@ShalashaskaFL @DrewskysChannel No one is saying you should be matched with me. However saying that I should play ranked 24/7 because I play the game more is dumb. I should also not be in eu or Asia lobbies either

@JakeCoker55 @DrewskysChannel You’re level 206, I play 3 or 4 days a week for several hours at a time and I’m level 56. In what world should we be matched together?

@Gamehero24 @IFrostBolt That’s not how these lobbies work. You would run into the next purple team rotating your way.

@JakeCoker55 @IFrostBolt I just used my Recon Prime Ability and saw purple shields while i had a green. I ran the other way. Gotta pick your battles if we’re being honest here.

@LegateSprinkles @IFrostBolt Ahh yes I should play ranked 24/7 in a genre built on randomness. This isn’t call of duty we are talking about an extraction shooter.

@JakeCoker55 @IFrostBolt

@BurnerBuddha @IFrostBolt No they did not. When I play rook I get into very casual lobbies on outpost multiple blue shield teams cry more cause you need your hands held to fight a team. Just because we play the game doesn’t mean we want to play ranked 24/7

@JakeCoker55 @IFrostBolt Sorry you can't murder the casuals anymore. This is the same bullshit you guys cried about in Destiny. When you've pubstomped the casuals so much they don't want to play, then you're left with the sweats. The only difference here is the casuals went to a different queue.

@GeminiJack11 @TooDiffizzle @DrewskysChannel I should add also that I’m level 200+ and when I crew fill solo it literally throws me into Asia lobbies to ensure I stay in said high level que. so I can’t escape high level play to grab ammo or basic supplies. I get shit servers/connections to fight purple/gold kits with greens

@GeminiJack11 @TooDiffizzle @DrewskysChannel This is a dumb take considering it changed immediately after the update. The player count did not vary between the days before update and now. The high end leveled players are basically stuck in ranked play 24/7 despite what gear they run.

@IFrostBolt Only people saying it is good is straight casuals who barely play. I can’t even load in with a green kit without getting into the same lobbies with the same people all purple and gold kits. It’s ranked 24/7 and it kills the fun.

Try to not misunderstand me. I don't have a prob with the sweatier games in places like Cryo or Ranked. I surprisingly enjoyed Cryo aside the cheaters and 6man team ups (due to others doing it or because we had to since we recognized each other). This MM leaking into the normal modes just ruins how I liked to have fun, by using diff golds & weapons. Can't do that with bad game balance. I like the game, but It just doesn't feel worth dealing with. The MM just made my issues with the game stand out more & I can't rly ignore it now lol

@hiyahiper People just haven’t experienced it clearly it is very much like SBMM it is not intended I don’t think but it acts like it. Higher levels are being put into other regions to ensure every team on the map is of high level. Every map I drop is all purple/gold. There’s no randomness

everyone was calling us crazy for pointing out that sbmm had been snuck in btw now look 😂

@marathonaire It’s too sudden of a change. It was almost immediately post update all lobbies were purple and gold. It was not gradual at all. I also never match makes into eu or Asia lobbies and that is now frequent.

The MM changes arent changes but just Marathon hitting late wipe i think, same thing happens on tarkov. A growing number of casual players reach their goals for the wipe and clock out until the next wipe begins. sweats grow further (esp w level based mm) into their own pool

@AlexDav20722116 @maevesfw There’s no difference in player count the days before mid season update and the next few days where it was noticeably different lobbies. Has nothing to do with player count they changed the way MM works.

@maevesfw When the game is losing players slowly, it’s not the good players left. Wolf are running out of sheep, it’s not SBMM

seeing alot of sbmm complaints on the tl isnt the matchmaking just like this because of level based? experienced players matching experienced players was bound to happen at some point

@KnownAsSys @LardofSith The middle literally connects the map pretty easily man. You can’t just expect to have the map mastered in less than 24 hours. I navigated across map twice in one game to exfil by just using the center room to find which direction to head.

@LardofSith Not what I said. I mean the map's design is complicated from a navigation standpoint for no particular reason. Like, no room leads straight to another room like it should. The entire thing feels like a luigi's haunted mansion level

Yeah, lol "the game is hard," and all; but cryo's map design is intentionally confusing for no good reason. People have a right to complain about that