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@DarializaforNY It doesn’t? You went to a celebration of October 7 on October 8, called Barack Obama an “evil” “war criminal,” Biden a “rapist,” and a “war criminal,” and you aren’t a democrat who is running in a democratic primary to unseat an effective legislator because?
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Darializa for Congress
Darializa for Congress@DarializaforNY·
Hate has no place Uptown and in the Bronx, nor in our politics. Tomorrow, we have a choice: keep the hateful politics of the past, or welcome a new day Uptown and in the Bronx.
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@krystalball @mehdirhasan maybe it has something to do with the fact that she went to a celebration of October 7 on October 8, called Barack Obama an “evil” “war criminal,” Biden a “rapist,” and a “war criminal,” and isn’t a democrat who is running in a democratic primary?
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susan abulhawa | سوزان ابو الهوى
the irony of the United States celebrating its 250th anniversary is that it's literally a zionist colony, ruled utterly by a cabal of parasites.
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@PeterBeinart what’s unrealistic about your idea, Peter, is that neither Israelis nor Palestinians — who are the stakeholders —want a single, binational, secular pluralist democracy. It’s unrealistic because no one wants it except American anti-zionists.
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Peter Beinart
Peter Beinart@PeterBeinart·
I believe states should treat people equally under the law, irrespective of ethnicity, religion or race. I support that principle in the US, India, Iran, Israel-Palestine, everywhere. I believe such states tend to be safer for everyone because when people have equal representation in government they're less likely to take up arms. @mdubowitz disagrees. I'd welcome discussing this with him. I'm sure I'd learn something. And if my views are as odious and nonsensical as he suggests, he should want to expose them as such for as wide an audience as possible.
Mark Dubowitz@mdubowitz

Beinart’s defenders are attacking me but avoid the central issue: he has called for the end of Israel as a Jewish state. He advocates a “one-state solution” without acknowledging it could trigger bloodshed on a scale of the Lebanese Civil War, the Yugoslav Wars, the Syrian Civil War or the Iraqi Civil Wars (that resulted from the Iraq War that Beinart advocated for). This could lead to the deaths of tens of thousands of Jews and Arabs. That position mirrors the vision long promoted by Iran’s late supreme leader, Ali Khamenei, who spoke of a “referendum” where demographics would spell the end of Israel. He simultaneously built nuclear capabilities, ballistic missiles, and terror proxies to help bring about the end of Israel by force. I haven’t seen Beinart make the case to eliminate Israel by force though he often excuses Palestinian terrorism. You can debate the difference in tactics between Beinart and these other Israel eliminationists (including his counterparts on the right like Tucker Carlson). But the objective, the elimination of Israel as a Jewish state, is the same.

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@PeterBeinart Why don’t you, at a minimum, given that you claim to be advocating for Palestinians, advocate for what **they** say they want in a final status? Overwhelmingly, it’s not a single secular binational, pluralist democracy - a mini America.
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Peter Beinart
Peter Beinart@PeterBeinart·
I'm imagining a supporter of the Islamic Republic telling Anne Herzberg the same thing: How dare you, from your foreign apartment and with no skin in the game, suggest that Iranians deserve legal equality and human rights?
Anne Herzberg@AnneHerzberg14

From the comfort of his NYC apartment and with no legitimacy, Beinart has the luxury of inciting against Israel and asking the those living there to erase their self-determination and safety. He has no skin in the game and would pay no price for the predictable disaster that would ensue. Despicable person.

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@_iamblakeley even among your sad cohort of attention seeking opportunists making a living, by LARPing as a “commentator,” you might the saddest. You aren’t viral, you’re a virus.
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B L A K E L E Y™℠©® LLC
B L A K E L E Y™℠©® LLC@_iamblakeley·
Correct. Zionism is Naziism and should have no place anywhere on the left. I don’t care how “centrist” you are. If you claim to be in *any way* liberal, you should oppose Zionism.
Batya Ungar-Sargon@bungarsargon

The progressive Left has turned anti-Zionism into the only litmus test. Mamdani can make nice with Trump because of the protective shield of his anti-Zionism. The Left has room for Graham Platner's Nazi tattoo and the bruises he left on his ex-girlfriend—but not for Zionists.

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(((JLloydMiller)))@JasonLloydMill2·
@_iamblakeley this is the authoritative opinion of someone who was pretending to be pursuing “acting,” and “singing,” and was posting nothing but sad girl bushwick transplant content before 10/7, when you discovered there is a place called Israel, and Palestine.
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(((JLloydMiller)))@JasonLloydMill2·
@academic_la lol. I like how you LARP like you’re a “journalist.” It’s like watching a monkey with a stethoscope and a white coat “practicing medicine.”
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Shaiel Ben-Ephraim
Shaiel Ben-Ephraim@academic_la·
The US has told Israel to wait a few days to see whether a deal can be reached. If not, the two would move to joint action, and Washington's message is not to squander that on a limited tit-for-tat exchange of blows. Israel seems to have already conducted limited blows, but may wait with a full attack. An immediate response would also be limited anyway, because a meaningful strike first requires dealing with Iranian air defenses. Israel also needs American help for rescue if necessary and for interceptions. Israel is now holding deliberations, with the central question being whether to wait and, if so, how long. The working assumption is that the Iranians will harden their negotiating positions, after which the IDF could execute the planned strike jointly with the US. Another option floated is shifting to a covert strike channel in response to the launch. The general feeling among Israeli decision-makers is that they can get the US on board for a massive response if they play their cards right.
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susan abulhawa | سوزان ابو الهوى
I just have to ask you, @ori_goldberg: what does it mean to you to be "Israeli," especially after making such an admission about the nature of Israel. Keep in mind that what you say is not a recent development. It is the very nature of the jewish colony from its inception. You may not have seen it then, but we Palestinians certainly did. Undergirding your long post is a cognitive dissonance that you should first name, and then contend with. The very identity you cling to is predicated, necessarily, on a violent, genocidal jewish supremacy. Joining the rest of humanity means abandoning the Frankenstein European Jews cobbled together from the loot and ruins of our lives.
Ori Goldberg@ori_goldberg

I find myself in a quandry. I have come to fully believe that Israeli society has crossed a point of no return. I don't know the extent to which Israel is capable of destabilizing the world. I know that as a society, we are morally bankrupt. No solution is to be found in optimistic dreams about coexistence. "Peace" is meaningless im genocide. Israeli outrage at Israel's genocide is a moot point. There is nothing Israelis can "say" that makes it right. Israel does not deserve the same place at the table as the Palestinians. Israel does not deserve a place at any table. On the other hand, I have no other place. I am Israeli. I do not think Israel can be "disbanded". Israel is here. It is ceaselessly committing crimes against humanity as well as against human decency (not just within a legal framework, that is), debasing its neighbors, its supporters and itself. But it cannot simply be revoked. Israel must suffer the consequences of its own actions. It must be stopped and humbled. In its current supremacist form, it has no legitimacy, but I would not wish for it to disappear. More wrongs do not make a right. Right makes right. I find I must speak out in defense of this right and this good. But what relevance do my words have? What is the point of being serially outraged? I don't feel myself entitled to be heard, certainly not in serial fashion. The genocide is being carried out in my name. What weight do my words of anger and condemnation carry? My presence confers neither comfort nor effect on the fight against genocide and ethnic cleansing. I must speak, but to what purpose? It certainly isn't redemption. There is no redemption for my society. I am not claiming its potential virtue. Human beings are never devoid of virtue, but that does not really matter now. Israel has wronged so much, taken and despoiled and killed, has paid it forward even in the Palestinian and Lebanese gene pools. One voice should be heard right now, and that is the voice of Israel's victims. There is not a single attack on Israel that is not grounded in an Israeli attempt to uproot and destroy ar this moment. The only other voice permissible belongs to international tribunals, leaderships and institutions (with the hope that they choose to use this voice). When I write or speak I do so from the most particular (selfish, perhaps) aspects of my existence. I feel as though I have no other choice. But I have no illusions about changing Israeli minds or even about my own virtue. My heart breaks daily still over the myriad ways in which overt genocide shapes my present and my future. This heartbreak deserves no pity or consideration. My words are gray and deflated, sad as lonely, little wrinkled balloons. That is as it should be. I have no wish to be a strategic analyst. There are many wiser and more capable than I am. I am outraged all the time, angry and sad and shaken as a basic stance towards life. This isn't an equal and opposite reaction to actions taken by Israel. This quagmire is my life as an Israeli Jew. The desperate wish I do have is to maintain my humanity in the most literal sense, a framework that will allow me to delay my disintegration as a person. Is that enough?

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@ori_goldberg @susanabulhawa As I said, you will never be able to remove the moral stain of being Israeli, and there is no amount of self-flagellation that will ever be sufficient, including but not limited to advocating for the annihilation of your country and origins, so…suicide
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Ori Goldberg
Ori Goldberg@ori_goldberg·
A few more thoughts following @susanabulhawa's pointed and correct questions to me: 1. The trappings of supremacy, one that has been fostered in me since before my birth, are difficult to shake off regardless of any and all conscious attempts to grow past them. Only supremacy can square circles. A desire on my part to articulate a personal position regarding the genocide requires diligence and responsibility that are all on me. 2. When I suggested that "right makes right" I wrongly implied that the establishment of Israel, from 1917 onwards, is simply a "right". I would ascribe this to that all-pervailing supremacy in which I was raised, but this does not diminish my full responsibility for my words. 3. That said, I don't believe in equating justice with symmetry. Israeli Jews suggesting that the genocide is "justified" by the Hamas attack of 7.10.23, and that this justification is valid from here to eternity, are an abomination. Twitterites telling me that I can only leave immediately (to "return home") in order to save my soul are stating a position I cannot espouse. 4. Moreover, a major part of Israel's evil is precisely this convulted pretense to "symmetry". I reject it not as an Israeli, but as what I perceive to be human in me. If the struggle for good is based on a page out of the Israeli playbook, that (I think) is a problem. 5. I think the two state solution is not just dead, but that it was always detrimental. It is based on the notion that, left to their own devices within one state, the Palestinians will simply set about attempting to kill all the Jews (as Jews, "peace loving nation", will have no choice but to kill all the Palestinians first). This makes the 2SS "necessary". 6. I would like to see a single state in which Jews and Palestinians live in full equality. In the process leading up to the formation of such a state, Palestinians must first be assured of receiving all their legal rights alongside reparations. Justice here is also not symmetrical. Israeli Jews need to stay quiet for a very long time. In this state every religious denomination should be allowed the freedom to practice its religion in peace. I would like to think of a multifocal one state rather than one state based on negative freedoms.
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@FranceskAlbs What kind of intellectually indolent way of thinking is this? Someone in Tel Aviv says something racist and you then impute that that sentence to the character of an entire country? I lived in Italy for 2 years. By your standard it’s preternaturally evil.
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Richard Medhurst
Richard Medhurst@richimedhurst·
Texas and Louisiana — that's where all the money is in the oil and gas business now. It's the anchor of the LNG-Dollar. The French made a big mistake selling it.
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@susanabulhawa He just dead, not “resting in power.” If his ancestors are worms, you’re right about that, though.
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@susanabulhawa You may be the single most malignant and undermining voice in the Palestinian national movement, today. Keep it up!
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susan abulhawa | سوزان ابو الهوى
globalize the intifada. globalize resistance to the Epsteiners. globalize glory to indigenous Palestinian resistance against foreign colonizers decimating the land, extinguishing life, planning casinos and degeneracy in place of ancient native life. globalize naming Israel for the cancer it is. globalize ousting of political puppets like Starmer.
Shadow of Ezra@ShadowofEzra

Keir Starmer says protests must now be fully approved by the government and must not offend Israel in any way. He says certain words and phrases will get you arrested for “racism.” The Anti-Defamation League wants these types of rules in the United States.

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@susanabulhawa Almost all Israelis carrying long guns this way, are not civilians. They are conscripts, who are required to keep their weapons with them at all times when they are off base to make sure they are secured (they have to “wear” them) and can respond to terror.
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(((JLloydMiller)))@JasonLloydMill2·
@susanabulhawa it’s amazing that you’re so drunk on bigotry and disoriented by your own stupidity that it isn’t completely clear to you that this is…Turkey. 🤦🏻‍♂️
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susan abulhawa | سوزان ابو الهوى
we tried to make peace with you, but you were too drunk on power, too obsessed with dominating others. now you will never have a place in this region. no matter what happens, you will leave. you had a chance to live in peace, but you couldn't resist killing and destroying. that chance is gone. you will know no peace on this earth until you repent your evil ways.
MEHMET VEFA DAG -Cape Town Mayor Candidate@AFRICANDEMOC

Finally

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