Jay

You're stripping hours of narrative context down to one-line descriptions to make them sound equivalent. That's not honest engagement with the material. Sylus's storyline is an enemies-to-lovers arc where the power dynamic is the narrative tension. The player enters that storyline knowing what it is, chooses to engage with it, and the story explores that complexity over dozens of chapters. Caleb's storyline involves a character dealing with trauma, duty, and fear of loss — moments of intensity are portrayed as internal conflict, not endorsed behavior. These are narrative choices within a genre that has explored morally complex dynamics for decades — in novels, film, and games worldwide. None of that is comparable to a promotional video — not a story chapter, not a scene players opted into — broadcasting a brand new character breaking into a woman's home as his public debut, with no context, no relationship, no narrative framework, shown to everyone including minors. But here's what matters more than either of our opinions: a prosecutor reviewed the content in this game and classified one specific scene as legally problematic. Not Sylus's scenes. Not Caleb's scenes. Valko's promotional scene. If you believe other content also crosses legal lines, that's a complaint you can file. But a legal authority already made the determination on Valko's content specifically, and no amount of 'but what about the others' changes that.

@JayShan0506 @llux4_ Wait where is consent when Sylus is kidnapping MC and debate to hurt us? When Caleb is drugging and controlling us? Are you even hearing yourself? Every one of them would be a red flag. You just want reason so spin this to fit you narrative.

I hear you, and I'm going to answer every point because you clearly put thought into this and deserve a real response. First — Valko was not removed because players didn't like his design. Valko's own promotional content contained a scene where he breaks into a woman's home at night while she lives alone, and says 'what's wrong with inviting the wolf in?' A Chinese prosecutor's office formally characterized this as romanticizing illegal entry into a private residence — a crime carrying up to three years imprisonment under Chinese law. The national women's federation's official newspaper called it a direct threat to women's safety and demanded investigation and legal punishment. The legal system's official newspaper said it crossed a legal red line. These are not player opinions — these are institutional determinations with legal authority. The character wasn't cancelled because CN players threw a tantrum. He was cancelled because his own content was formally classified as promoting illegal behavior and endangering women's safety. This is a legal compliance issue, not an aesthetic preference. On top of that, the 731 reference in the game's human experimentation record — which had been reported to customer service by multiple players long before this crisis and was ignored — was identified by state media and a prosecutor's office as content that harms national sentiment and violates public morality regulations. The company's response of 'it's a random number' was publicly rejected by six state media systems and a national think tank. Second — you're right that Valko himself had nothing to do with 731. Nobody claimed he did. These are two separate issues that exploded at the same time because the Valko controversy triggered a community-wide audit of the entire game. The company had years to quietly fix the 731 content. Players told them about it. They chose to leave it in. Third — you ask why CN players didn't fight to keep Valko. Because for most CN players, the issue was never about one character. It was about a company that went 500 days without updating the main story, couldn't deliver for five existing characters, broke an explicit promise of no new love interests, and then added a sixth whose own promotional material romanticized breaking into a woman's home. Demanding that he stay would have meant accepting both the broken resource model and content that legal authorities had already flagged as problematic. Fourth — the CN players who liked Valko. You're right that they were caught in the crossfire, and that isn't fair. But the people who mistreated them are individuals, not a movement. Just as I won't judge all global players by the ones calling us racist, I'd ask you not to judge all CN players by the ones who attacked Valko fans. Fifth — the developers. Yes, real people worked on him. Their work was wasted. That's a tragedy, and the blame falls entirely on the executives who approved a character launch with content that legal authorities would later classify as promoting illegal behavior. Not on the players who spent six days warning them while they responded with 'look at his shiny eyes.' Sixth — localization. What happened with Love and Deepspace is not normal localization. Renaming Chinese New Year's Eve while keeping Christmas. Erasing Chinese text from animations and re-drawing entire scenes to remove Chinese characters. Removing Chinese food from every date menu — four menus, zero Chinese dishes, in a game made by a Chinese company. Scrubbing calligraphy from character art. Posting a government collaboration promoting Chinese sports culture three times domestically and zero times internationally. A provincial party newspaper — the same level as a state governor's official press — just published an editorial calling this 'diluting Chinese elements and blurring cultural identity.' Normal localization adapts content for local audiences. This systematically erased the game's origin. There is a difference. Seventh — you say global players are 40% of revenue and not irrelevant. You're right. Which is exactly why the company owed you the same honesty it owed us — and gave you a different story instead. The English apology said 'we weren't ready to introduce Valko.' The Chinese apology acknowledged broken promises, failed content delivery, and systemic trust collapse. Same decision, two different explanations, designed so you'd blame us instead of them. That's not respect. That's manipulation. Last — you say this should be company versus players, not CN versus global. I agree completely. But the path to unity isn't asking CN players to defend content that our own legal system has classified as problematic. It's both sides recognizing that the company engineered this conflict — by telling us different stories, stripping your version of cultural context, and making sure you'd never have the information needed to understand our concerns. You want us to help you push back? We already are. Every demand we've made — for accountability, for transparency, for better content standards — benefits you too. The company that lied to us is the same company that lied to you. Start there.

We do know. It was a promotional video. The character hadn't launched yet. There was no relationship — no storyline, no chapters, no buildup. It was a marketing PV introducing a brand new character to the public for the first time. That's not 'a moment in their relationship.' That's a stranger breaking into a home, presented as romantic, broadcast to everyone including minors. Caleb and Sylus's scenes exist within established storylines where the player has spent hours building a relationship with the character. There is context, consent within the narrative, and player agency. Comparing that to a promotional video of a character nobody has ever met is not the equivalence you think it is. A prosecutor reviewed Valko's specific content and classified it as romanticizing illegal entry. That classification was based on the content itself — a stranger, no relationship, no context, marketed to the general public. That's not a subjective opinion. That's a legal determination. 'We don't know at what part of their relationship it's happening' — correct, because no relationship existed. The character hadn't launched. The company chose to market him with that scene as a first impression. That was their decision, and a prosecutor determined it crossed a legal line.

@JayShan0506 @llux4_ Stop with this “he breaks into a woman's home” we don’t know at what part of their relationship it’s happening and even if every other LI is doing some fucked up shit with Caleb and Sylus leading.

If someone called you that, they were dead wrong. No excuse. But I need to ask you the same question I've been asking everyone in this thread: are you talking about specific individuals, or are you talking about the movement? Because if your standard is 'some people in your community said terrible things, therefore your entire community is racist and none of your concerns are valid' — then apply that standard equally. I can show you English-language comments calling Chinese people 'brainwashed,' saying 'we already know China is racist' about 1.4 billion people, telling us our WWII trauma 'doesn't matter.' Does that make the entire global community racist against Chinese people? Does that invalidate every concern you've ever raised? You know it doesn't. Because you understand that the worst voices don't represent everyone. The people who called you slurs are not the people who got a prosecutor to issue legal classifications. They're not the journalists who published investigations. They're not the women's federation that demanded accountability. The actual outcome of this crisis was driven by institutions reviewing evidence, not by racists on Twitter. You want to be angry at the individuals who insulted you? You have every right. Report them. Call them out. But don't use their words to erase a prosecutor's legal determination, six state media investigations, and documented evidence of content that violated legal standards. Nobody is asking you to sympathize with people who disrespected you. We're asking you to separate the trolls from the facts — the same way you'd want us to do for you.

@JayShan0506 No imma call y'all racist because YOU lot called us brown people chimps and monkeys. CN players have been calling global people all kinds of names and now you want us to sympathize with you??????

I'm a CN player. I'm a Caleb stan. And I'm done being polite about this. You don't get to call an entire player base racist while knowing absolutely nothing about what actually happened. So sit down and read. CN players didn't wake up one morning and decide to cancel a character because of his skin color. We spent 500+ days waiting for main story updates that never came. We watched the company fail to deliver content for five existing characters while announcing a sixth — breaking an explicit promise of "no new love interests." In 2025, Love and Deepspace ranked #1 on China's largest consumer complaint platform with 3,406 cases about unequal resource distribution. This rage was years in the making. Valko was the last straw, not the cause. Then we found a drug experimentation record inside the game numbered 0731. If that means nothing to you, that's your ignorance, not our problem. Unit 731 was a Japanese military program that conducted live human experiments — vivisections, biological warfare, forced infections — on thousands of Chinese civilians and POWs during WWII. The in-game record included the name 严颂, a phonetic match to Japanese researchers from the unit, within a full narrative of injection protocols, endurance testing, and forced mental control. Players reported this through customer service when it first launched. It was ignored. The company later called it "a random placeholder number." Six state media systems, a national think tank, and a prosecutor's office publicly called that a lie. Now let me tell you why you had no idea about any of this. The company deliberately gutted every trace of Chinese identity from your version of the game. Chinese New Year's Eve was deleted from the script. The Lantern Festival greeting was removed across every language version — Chinese, English, Japanese, Korean — while the holiday imagery was kept, proving it was a deliberate directive, not a translation choice. Mid-Autumn Festival was renamed to a fictional name. Christmas and Halloween? Kept their real names. Chinese text was manually redrawn out of cutscene animations. Chinese food was erased from date scenes — four date menus, zero Chinese dishes, in a game made by a Chinese company. A calligraphy illustration had its Chinese characters scrubbed for international release. A government-backed collaboration promoting Chinese sports culture at the Asian Winter Games was posted three times domestically and zero times on any international channel. You were handed a product that was systematically stripped of its origin. And now you have the audacity to tell us our concerns don't matter — while consuming a game built on Chinese players' money and Chinese creators' labor. The apology letter you received was also different from ours. Your version said "we weren't ready to introduce Valko." Our version acknowledged broken promises, failed content delivery, and systemic trust collapse. Same company, same decision, two completely different explanations — designed so that you'd blame us instead of them. And it worked. Here you are, calling us racist, while the company that lied to both of us watches from the sidelines. And let me be absolutely clear about where things stand right now. This is no longer a player dispute. This is no longer about your feelings or ours. The Chinese government has taken notice. As of today, state media outlets at every level — from central party organs to provincial papers, from the national women's federation to the legal system — have published critical coverage demanding accountability. A prosecutor's office has issued a formal legal characterization of the game's content as violating regulations on public morality and national sentiment. State media are calling for the company to undergo "fundamental reform." Whether this company can survive what comes next is an open question. Your anger in our comment sections changes nothing. The character was not cancelled because of tweets or Reddit threads. It was cancelled because institutional power stepped in. And that same institutional power is still escalating, not retreating. You are screaming at the wrong people about a situation you fundamentally do not control and do not understand. So no. We are not "xenophobic" for refusing to let a company monetize our historical trauma. We are not throwing "toddler tantrums" for demanding accountability after 500 days of broken promises. And we are certainly not going to apologize for defending a position that our own government, our own judiciary, and our own national media have now publicly endorsed. You want to be angry? Be angry at the company that decided you didn't deserve the truth. Or don't. But understand this: your ignorance was manufactured, your outrage was engineered, and the people you're defending don't even respect you enough to tell you the same story they told us. One last thing. Before you reply, ask yourself whether you can dispute a single fact in this post — not with feelings, not with "well I don't care about 731," not with "China is racist" — but with a single verifiable fact that proves anything I said is wrong. If you can't, then you don't have a counterargument. You have a reaction. And reactions don't change reality. Every claim above is backed by public data, official media coverage, in-game evidence, and documented company behavior. If you choose to ignore all of it because it's easier to blame Chinese players than to confront what this company did to all of us, that's your choice. But don't mistake your comfort for the truth.

Nobody targeted Valko because of 731. I'll say it one more time because this confusion keeps coming up: Valko was removed because of Valko's own content. His scene. His dialogue. His promotional video showing him breaking into a woman's home at night and saying 'what's wrong with inviting the wolf in.' A prosecutor classified that as romanticizing a criminal act. The women's federation demanded investigation. That had nothing to do with Xavier or 731. That was Valko's own material being independently determined as legally problematic. 731 is a separate issue about the company's content review failures. It surfaced during the same week because the Valko crisis triggered mass scrutiny of everything in the game. But no one — not players, not media, not prosecutors — said 'remove Valko because of 731.' And you're right — rewriting was an option. Some CN players wanted exactly that. Fix the break-in scene, adjust the content, relaunch properly. The company chose total deletion instead. Ask yourself why. Because rewriting would have required them to publicly explain what was wrong, how it passed review, and what they're changing — a level of transparency they've never shown and clearly want to avoid. The company chose the option that required zero explanation. That tells you everything about how they operate.

@JayShan0506 In my opinion, Infold could’ve simply rewrote the character. And if it wasn’t even related to Valko and it was related to Xavier, why target the one who had nothing to do with it?

'Crazy Chinese folks who can't separate fiction from reality.' A prosecutor separated fiction from reality. The legal determination was that fictional content romanticizing a real crime — breaking into a woman's home — crosses a legal boundary. That's not Chinese players being crazy. That's how content regulation works in every country. Try putting illegal content in a game released in the EU or the US and see what happens. 'Left a bunch of people jobless over a stupid whim.' The developers who worked on Valko are still employed at Papergames. The company has 2,000+ employees and 84 billion yuan in annual revenue. Nobody was fired over this. And if you're concerned about the developers' work being wasted, direct that anger at the executives who approved a character launch with content that a prosecutor would later classify as illegal — not at the players who spent six days warning them before any institution got involved. 'Wasn't necessary to go as far as kicking him out.' Some CN players actually agreed with you — they wanted the problematic content rewritten and the character reworked rather than deleted entirely. The company chose total cancellation because it was easier than explaining how the content passed internal review. That was the company's decision, not the players'. And calling 1.4 billion people 'crazy Chinese folks' while complaining about racism in the same conversation — you might want to think about that for a second.

@JayShan0506 Ya pero, con todo eso que dijiste, no era necesario llegar a la instancia de quitar a valko del juego, literalmente dejaron a un montón de gente sin trabajo por un capricho idiota de ustedes las chinas locas que no saben separar la ficción de la realidad

Yes, the 731 content was in Xavier's World Underneath story, released months before Valko. You're absolutely right about that, and no CN player has ever claimed otherwise. These are two completely separate issues that happened to become public at the same time. Let me explain why. The 731 content was buried in a supplementary lore section called 'World Depth' — optional reading that the vast majority of players never open during normal gameplay. When it first launched, some players did notice it and reported it to customer service. Multiple reports were filed. The company received them, logged them, and did nothing. Most players never knew those reports existed. Then on June 22nd, Valko was announced. The backlash was massive — not because of his appearance, but because the company had gone 500 days without updating existing characters' main stories and broke an explicit promise of no new love interests. 40,000+ complaints were filed. The company responded with 'sorry, but look at his shiny eyes.' As frustration peaked, players began systematically going through every piece of in-game content looking for other problems. That's when the 731 reference went from 'a few customer service tickets that were ignored' to 'millions of people seeing it at once.' The content didn't change — the number of people scrutinizing the game did. Now here's the critical part: Valko was NOT removed because of 731. Valko was removed because of Valko's own content. His promotional video contained a scene where he breaks into a woman's home at night while she lives alone and says 'what's wrong with inviting the wolf in.' A Chinese prosecutor's office formally classified this as romanticizing illegal entry into a private residence — a crime carrying up to three years imprisonment. The national women's federation demanded investigation and legal punishment. The legal system's official newspaper said it crossed a legal red line. So to be completely clear: 731 is about the company's broken content review system. Valko's removal is about Valko's own legally problematic content. They are two separate failures by the same company that surfaced in the same week because the company's crisis triggered the scrutiny that uncovered both.

@JayShan0506 THE 731 THING WAS IN THE GAME WAY BEFORE VALKO'S APPEARANCE!!! IT WAS IN XAVIER'S WU STORY !!!

Some CN players did call for the game to be shut down. I won't deny that. But you should understand why. These players didn't wake up one day and decide to destroy something they loved. They arrived at that position after exhausting every other option. They filed customer service reports — ignored. They submitted formal complaints through consumer platforms — 3,406 cases, resolution rate 0.24%. They posted feedback in every available channel — met with 'look at his shiny eyes.' They waited 500 days for story updates — nothing. They watched the company respond to legitimate concerns by threatening to sue them for 'spreading rumors.' When a company systematically blocks every legitimate channel of communication, some people will inevitably escalate to extreme demands. That's not irrationality — that's what happens when you leave people no other way to be heard. But that's still separate from why Valko was actually removed. He wasn't removed because players demanded the game be deleted. He was removed because his own promotional content was classified as legally problematic by a prosecutor's office. The players who called for shutdown and the institutions that forced Valko's removal operated on completely different tracks. And 'racist' — you keep returning to that word. But neither the prosecutors, the state media, the women's federation, nor the think tanks that drove the actual outcome mentioned race once. If the core movement were racist, the legal system wouldn't have validated it.

@JayShan0506 Then delete the whole game? Why only deleting Valko? 731 is from Xavier anecdote right? Who are we kidding, everyone knows that yall mentioning this issue now just to pressure the company. What about all the shit you cn players saying about the global fans,Yall are just racist af

That is factually wrong, and I can prove it with specific outlets and quotes. The Chinese Women's Daily — the national women's federation's official newspaper — published an article specifically titled 'Why the 0731 Defense Cannot Convince Anyone,' explicitly addressing the unit 731 connection and concluding with a demand for 'thorough investigation and legal punishment.' Beijing Times — BRTV's flagship platform — ran a dedicated segment asking 'what are the odds of randomly landing on 0731 out of ten thousand possible numbers.' Yangtze Evening News — based in Nanjing, the city that experienced the Nanjing Massacre at the hands of the same military that operated Unit 731 — wrote: '731 was never a meaningless random number. Behind it is a national trauma that must never be forgotten.' A prosecutor's office issued a formal legal notice explicitly stating that 'game content with numbering referencing Unit 731 human experimentation constitutes content harming national sentiment and violating public morality regulations.' Beijing Youth Daily created multiple hashtags including 'Why the One-in-Ten-Thousand Probability Landed on 731.' Wherever you got your information, it was wrong. The 731 issue was covered extensively by named, institutional media at every level — central, provincial, and judicial. This is not a matter of interpretation. It's a matter of public record that you can verify right now.

@JayShan0506 "I noticed that among the 100 Chinese media outlets Chinese players used to pressure Papergames, not a single one mentioned the Unit 731 issue. They were only discussing how the new character was a bit too offensive."

A game being about romance doesn't mean a debate about legal classifications and content standards should be settled by who's more upset. Those are different categories and you know it. 731 wasn't Valko's lore. Correct. I've said this repeatedly. Nobody connected them — they exploded at the same time because Valko's crisis triggered mass scrutiny of everything. Valko's own content is what got him removed. A break-in scene classified by a prosecutor as romanticizing a crime. That's his content, not 731. Did some players dislike his appearance? Yes. Players dislike characters in every game. That's normal consumer feedback and it's not toxic. Saying 'this design doesn't match the game's established art style' is the same feedback every game community gives worldwide. Did some players go too far? Yes. Some always do. But 'some people were toxic on the internet' doesn't erase a prosecutor's legal determination, six state media investigations, or a national think tank's analysis. You're stacking 'toxic fans existed' on top of the legitimate issues to make the whole thing look irrational. But the institutions that actually caused the outcome don't operate on toxicity — they operate on evidence. And the evidence was in Valko's own content.

@JayShan0506 "Dont counterargument with feelings" and yet this whole ass game is about dating. "Valko was the last straw" and the whole 731 wasnt even his lore. Dont try to hide the fact that there r a tons of toxic cn players who disliked him cuz of his appearence n then decided to go feral

Yes, I realize that. I've said it multiple times in this thread. They're two separate issues. And you're right — it is convenient timing. But the convenience indicts the company, not the players. The 731 content was reported by multiple players through customer service when it first launched. The company ignored those reports. They had months to quietly fix a four-digit number before anyone outside customer service ever noticed. They chose not to. Then they created a crisis so large that millions of players started reading every line of text in the game. And suddenly everyone found what the company had been told about and left in. That's not players manufacturing outrage at a convenient moment. That's a company gambling that a known problem would stay buried — and losing that bet because they triggered the very scrutiny that uncovered it. 'Wake up' — I'm wide awake. The question is why you're directing your suspicion at the players who found the problem instead of the company that was told about it and did nothing.

@JayShan0506 You do realise that the World Underneath entry that contained “731” was released several months ago and had nothing to do with Valko, right? Just seems awfully convenient that it’s brought up NOW during the height of frustration, poor communication and timing? Wake up.

Two separate things. Let me untangle them for you. 731 and Valko's removal are not connected. Valko was removed because his own promotional content — breaking into a woman's home at night and saying 'what's wrong with inviting the wolf in' — was classified by a prosecutor's office as romanticizing a criminal act. That's a legal compliance issue specific to Valko's own content. It has nothing to do with 731. 731 is a separate problem. Players did report it when it first launched. Multiple reports through customer service. The company received them and did nothing. It didn't become a mass crisis until the Valko controversy caused millions of players to scrutinize everything at once — and then discovered that the company had been told and chose to ignore it. And nobody asked to 'get rid of a character' over 731. What CN players demanded about 731 was exactly what you're suggesting — acknowledge it, explain how it happened, change it, and build systems to prevent it. The company's response was 'random number, we'll fix it today, some employees lacked sensitivity.' No accountability, no explanation of how multiple reports were ignored, no systemic reform. You're combining two issues into one to make the response seem disproportionate. Separated out, each had its own logic: Valko's content had legal problems identified by judicial authorities. 731 had historical sensitivity problems that the company was warned about and ignored. Both are the company's failure. Neither was manufactured by players.

@JayShan0506 You guys didn’t have a problem with 731 until Valko came, and if that was the issue why didn’t you just push for info to change the numbers instead of getting rid of an entire character???

Nobody asked for Valko to be removed because of 731. These are two separate issues. Valko's own content — the break-in scene — was independently classified as legally problematic by a prosecutor's office. That's why his content was the problem. 731 is a game-wide content review failure. It doesn't belong to any character. It belongs to the company's broken review pipeline. Which is exactly why CN players aren't asking for one character to be removed — they're asking for the company to explain how this passed internal review, why customer service reports were ignored, and what systemic changes will prevent it from happening again. You're trying to make this sound absurd by saying 'well then remove the whole game.' But you're accidentally describing exactly what state media has been saying all day: the problem isn't one character or one number. It's the system that produced both. A major newspaper literally published today: 'the problem was never the character — it was the system that created him.' So yes, we agree. This is bigger than Valko. That's not the gotcha you think it is. That's the whole point.

@JayShan0506 literally everything hinges on that there would be a sixth LI, and the text “coming soon” lol. And that you’re writing about was in the game before Valko; I think it was first mentioned with Xav. So maybe you should ask for him to be removed then? Or better yet, the whole game

I understand these comments are upsetting. And I'm not going to tell you they're acceptable — nobody should be spoken to that way. But look at what's actually being said. One is mocking the company, not global players — 'you didn't realize your mistake, you just can't make money anymore.' One is making a point about revenue share. One is about spending power. The bottom left is just raw hostility with no coherent argument at all. What I don't see in any of them is a reference to anyone's race, skin color, or ethnicity. These comments are aggressive and hostile, yes. But calling them 'racist' stretches the word beyond its meaning. Rude and racist are not the same thing. More importantly — these are random individuals on social media. Every community has people like this. You could screenshot the worst English-language comments about Chinese players and build the same collage. Judging an entire playerbase by its loudest and worst voices is something neither side should be doing. The decisions that actually shaped this crisis — the media interventions, the legal classifications, the institutional responses — came from a completely different place than Twitter arguments. Those are the conversations that matter. These screenshots are a distraction from the real question: why did the company put both communities in this position?

@JayShan0506 Global didnt calles cn players racists for nothing. Instead of cn players to explain what you say they just mocked us and the new character

Nobody said CN players did nothing wrong. Individual players were hostile, aggressive, and in some cases inexcusable. That's true. But you're conflating three separate things: individual player behavior on social media, the legitimate grievances about 731 and content standards, and the institutional response that actually caused Valko's cancellation. These exist at the same time, yes. They are not the same thing. Toxic Twitter comments didn't get Valko cancelled. A prosecutor's legal classification did. Rude CN players didn't force six state media systems to intervene. The company's own content did. The individuals who were shitty to you have no connection to the institutions that made the actual decisions. You're right that 731 has nothing to do with Valko. We've said that repeatedly. They are two separate failures by the same company that exploded at the same time because the Valko crisis triggered a full audit of everything. And yes, Infold is shitting in all of our faces. That's the one thing we actually agree on. So why are you spending your energy fighting us instead of the company that lied to both of us — gave us different apology letters, told you a different story than they told us, and is right now sitting in silence watching us tear each other apart while they post furniture updates? You want to be angry at CN players for being rude to you? Fine. But being rude on Twitter and embedding war crime references in a romance game are not equivalent sins. One is bad manners. The other is why prosecutors got involved.

@JayShan0506 All of this doesnt change the CN Playerbase behavior towards us and valko. All of this exists at the same fucking time. 731 has NOTHING TO DO WITH VALKO. Infold is shitting in all of our faces but acting like CN players did nothing wrong is pathetic

You just made our argument for us. Yes, the 731 content existed before Valko. Players reported it to customer service when it first launched. Multiple reports. The company received them and did nothing. So you've been following since launch. Did you know about 731 before last week? No? Neither did most players, because it was buried in supplementary lore text that almost nobody opens during normal gameplay. The Valko controversy didn't create the 731 problem. It created the conditions for millions of players to start scrutinizing every piece of content at once. That's when a problem the company had been told about and ignored became public knowledge. You're not arguing that 731 doesn't matter. You're arguing that it should have been found sooner. Agreed. It should have — by the company, after the first player report. They chose to leave it in. That's not the players' failure. That's the company's.

@JayShan0506 I dont even play the game but have been following it since launch and know the 731 has been in the game well before Valko. Theres screen shots of this floating around its stupid that its being used as an argument now 🙄

'Rumors and misinformation' — a prosecutor's office issued a formal legal characterization classifying the break-in scene as romanticizing illegal entry. The national women's federation's official newspaper demanded investigation and legal punishment. Six state media systems published critical coverage. A national think tank provided academic analysis. These are not rumors. These are institutional determinations by authorities with legal standing. You are calling a prosecutor's legal opinion 'misinformation.' The 0731 reference: seven pages of in-game human experimentation records, a test subject number matching the most notorious biological warfare unit in WWII, a recorder named 严颂 matching Japanese military researchers, within a complete narrative of injection protocols and endurance testing. Multiple players reported this to customer service when it first launched. The company ignored those reports and later called it 'a random number.' Every institution that reviewed the evidence publicly rejected that explanation. The iron pot scene — even if the original reference was a fairy tale, the company's own content team combined it with a werewolf character breaking into a woman's home at night saying 'what's wrong with inviting the wolf in.' When you layer these elements together in a game marketed to women, including minors, the context is what matters, not the original source material. You call this 'making a fuss.' Chinese legal authorities call it crossing a legal red line. I'll let you decide whose assessment carries more weight.

'Nationalism' — a prosecutor classified the content as illegal. Six state media systems rejected the company's explanation. A national think tank called it 'systematic arrogance.' When your own country's legal system determines that a product violates public morality regulations, responding to that isn't nationalism. It's the law. 'They stated 731 wasn't intended' — and every institution with authority to evaluate that claim publicly said it was not credible. A human experimentation record with the number 0731, a recorder named after Japanese military researchers, within a full narrative of injection protocols and endurance testing. The company said 'random number.' A prosecutor, six media systems, and a national think tank said no. You're choosing to believe the company over every institution that reviewed the evidence. Ask yourself why. 'Are they obligated to include Chinese festivals? It's another universe' — then why does that universe have Christmas and Halloween under their real names? The issue was never obligation. It's that Chinese New Year's Eve was deleted, Lantern Festival was removed, Mid-Autumn was renamed to something fictional — while Western holidays were kept intact. If the 'another universe' rule applied equally, Christmas would also be renamed. It wasn't. That's not worldbuilding. That's selective erasure. And this game wasn't 'decapitated by nationalism.' It was wounded by a company that put a criminal offense in a promotional video, a war crime reference in its lore, and a cultural double standard in its localization — then told you it was all China's fault.

@JayShan0506 Now that you'll have another game decapitated by your nationalism I hope you're happy. Let them do their work, they already stated that the 731 wasn't intended to offend or mention the unit. And as for China festivals, are they obligated to do that? It's set in another universe.

I see the screenshots. But you're showing me the reaction without showing what provoked it. Go look at the official announcement comment sections. Look at what international players were saying about Chinese players first — calling us xenophobic, homophobic, colorist, saying 'we already know China is racist,' saying our concerns about 731 don't matter, telling us our historical trauma is irrelevant, celebrating that the character was 'designed for a global audience' as if the domestic playerbase that built this game is disposable. CN players didn't start this fight. They responded to it. Badly, in some cases — I won't pretend those comments are pleasant. But framing this as 'CN players attacked us' while ignoring that international players were dismissing our war trauma and calling our entire country racist first is not honest. You're selecting the ugliest Chinese responses to prove racism. I could do the same with English-language comments calling Chinese players 'brainwashed,' telling us '731 doesn't matter,' and saying 'China is racist' as a blanket statement about 1.4 billion people. Would you accept that as proof that the entire global community is racist against Chinese people? Neither side's worst commenters represent the whole. But only one side's concerns were validated by prosecutors, state media, and legal institutions. The question is whether you want to keep arguing about who was ruder on Twitter, or whether you're ready to talk about why those institutions stepped in.

@JayShan0506 Still doesn't disprove the fact they were racist towards us. We are all angry regarding Caleb's ms but the difference is that the CN side resorted to calling valko and us racist names. This is not to downplay the other issues but this kind of behavior doesn't solve the problem.

That's literally the question everyone is asking — including CN players. Why did a Chinese company, founded by someone from Jiangsu province who studied in Japan, allow a human experimentation record numbered 0731 to go live? Why did their own content team write a scene romanticizing breaking into a woman's home? And you're right — revision was an option. Some CN players wanted exactly that. But the company chose total cancellation because it was easier than explaining how this content passed internal review in the first place. Answering that question would mean admitting their entire content pipeline has no functioning safety mechanism. They'd rather lose the character than face that conversation. The deletion wasn't accountability. It was avoidance.

@JayShan0506 And why did a China based company even design a character with his lore based around that then? That’s just hypocritical but everyone’s entitled their own opinion. The right thing they could’ve done was revise his lore instead of deleting him completely.

You're right. Deleting him changed nothing. That's exactly our point. Some CN players did want him removed. Others wanted the problematic content rewritten and the character reworked — fix the break-in scene, fix the 731 reference, adjust the design, and try again properly. Both positions existed. But the company didn't choose either path thoughtfully. They chose the laziest option: total cancellation, 30 wishes, move on, hope everyone forgets. They didn't delete him because players demanded it. They didn't keep him and fix the problems either. They picked the option that required zero explanation, zero accountability, and zero transparency. Cancel everything, say sorry, avoid answering a single hard question. And you're living proof it didn't work — because here you are, still hurt, still angry, still without answers. Just like us. A major Chinese newspaper published an article today titled 'removing the character is just damage control — the real problem is the values gap.' Eight state-level institutions are still demanding answers. A prosecutor's office has issued legal classifications on his content. None of them are satisfied by the deletion either. The company had options. It could have acknowledged the legal issues with the break-in scene, rewritten the content, addressed 731 with a real statement, and relaunched him with proper preparation. Instead it chose a one-cut solution that answered nothing and hurt everyone. So we agree: deleting him solved nothing. But the blame for that belongs to the company that chose deletion as an escape route — not to the players on either side who deserved better.

@JayShan0506 And what did deleting him even changed? The 731 text was removed way before any of this (because it wasn't even related to Valko) and the company didn't even acknowledged it. We're not getting a story update any time soon, like it was initially planned anyway, it anything 1/