@realbenbriggs @AL_J82 @needGod_net The oldest manuscript we have of Luke 10 is Papyrus 75 (Hanna Papyrus) dated between 175-225 AD.
This is how we know we have the right Luke and know that it is Scripture.
Here is Luke 10:7
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@realbenbriggs @AL_J82 @needGod_net Paul recognizes Luke's Gospel as Scripture in the 1st century.
We know this because in 1 Timothy 5:18, Paul quotes Luke 10:7 and calls it Scripture.
The oldest manuscripts we have of 1 Tim 5 is in Codex Sinaiticus dated to mid 4th century.
Here is 1 Tim 5:18
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OrthoBro thought Paul and Silas were on @needGod_net live stream🤣🤣🤣 #Jesus #Christian #God #Christ #Orthodox
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@WindermereLarry @farmingandJesus Have you read the Protoevangelium of James?
It is a 2nd century pseudobiographical that was condemned by Pope Innocent I in 405 AD.
That is where a lot of this Mariology comes from.
It is ahistorical and takes glory from Christ.
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@farmingandJesus Sorry Lizzie, none of these quotes establish your point. None of them say Mary was a sinner. On the other hand, the Angel Gabriel said “ Hail Mary full of grace”. Only those who are righteous in the eyes of God are full of grace. Baptism gives us grace . Yet Mary was not Baptized
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Romans 3:23
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
Romans 5:8
But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
Romans 3:10
As it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one;
Romans 5:12
Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned—
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
1 John 1:8
If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
Uche is a girl@UcheMaryOkoli
I need Protestants to actually point to me exactly where it is mentioned in the Bible that "Mary is a sinner." Since you are sola scriptura, let's go sola scriptura. Just one part in the Bible where it is said, explicitly that "Mary, the Mother of God is a sinner." Because I'm tired of seeing your heresies in my comment section every time I talk about Mary. Mary was born sinless. She died sinless. Period! But if you have proof of Mary being sinful, show me.
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@realSammyPasta @UcheMaryOkoli Have you read the Protoevangelium of James? It is a 2nd century pseudobiographical that was condemned by Pope Innocent I in 405 AD. That is where a lot of this Mariology comes from. It is ahistorical and takes glory from Christ.
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@UcheMaryOkoli The argument I hear from Protestants (which I do not believe) is that she descended from Adam so she has original sin.
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I need Protestants to actually point to me exactly where it is mentioned in the Bible that "Mary is a sinner."
Since you are sola scriptura, let's go sola scriptura.
Just one part in the Bible where it is said, explicitly that "Mary, the Mother of God is a sinner."
Because I'm tired of seeing your heresies in my comment section every time I talk about Mary.
Mary was born sinless. She died sinless.
Period! But if you have proof of Mary being sinful, show me.
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@UcheMaryOkoli That is like asking for a Bible verse that says, "Joseph was a sinner."
You will not find one, because all created human beings sin according to Scripture. It is assumed.
Mary is a created human being and she is no exception.
Only Christ was sinless.
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@farmingandJesus The setting of Matthew 16 has to also be taken into account. It was at Caesera Philippi were there was a huge rock cliff and a cave that was considered the gates of hell. You also need to define "petra" and "petros" to determine what Christ is referring to.
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Augustine of Hippo (400 AD) in his exposition on Psalm 61
“Let us call to mind the Gospel: “Upon this Rock I will build My Church.” Matthew 16:18 Therefore She cries from the ends of the earth, whom He has willed to be built upon a Rock. But in order that the Church might be built upon the Rock, who was made the Rock? Hear Paul saying: “But the Rock was Christ.” On Him therefore built we have been. For this reason that Rock whereon we have been built,”
“For Christ Himself is the tower, Himself for us has been made a tower from the face of the enemy, who is also the Rock whereon has been built the Church.”
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@BibleInContext1 @KellyPowersBPA The problem with eastern churches and western churches trying to communicate on theology is that we view the topic differently. The east is very mystical and the west is systematic.
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Go watch the replay with Kelly Powers (@KellyPowersBPA) talking to two orthodox priests! You won’t believe what happens:
youtube.com/live/e1-RtS0C5…
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@WordFits @C2Antiquity The act of asking the Saint to pray for you is called "prayer".
You are praying to or invoking a Saint when you ask them to intercede for you.
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@C2Antiquity No saints on Earth are praying to or invoking Saints in heaven in Revelation.
There is absolutely no Scripture that promotes praying to anyone but YHWH.
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Revelation 5:8 and Revelation 8:3-4 shows the saints in the presence of God praying and carrying our prayers up to God like incense.
2 Maccabees 12:43-45 shows Onias (a recently deceased priest) and the prophet Jeremiah (long deceased) praying for Israel.
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@_InTheFilth @Eli_StayFocused Where is the verse that states the gifts of the Spirit ended? Don't get me wrong those hypercharismatics playing with rattlesnakes have gone to far. We should make room for the Spirit to move though.
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So Protestants, the Holy Spirit only works through you "in a colloquial sense" according to the "true churches".
To all my Charismatic, Holy Ghost Fire, tongue speaking individuals, do you believe that?
This gets worse the more I hear.
Be not deceived.
-StayFocused
Via - @RuslanKD
#HolySpirit #FearOfGod #Bible #Orthodoxy
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@Eli_StayFocused I see the fruits and gifts of the Spirit both at work within my Assemblies of God church. We have gone from 300 to 1300 members in 10 years. We are having to build a new sanctuary. Many are putting their faith in Christ and seeing life change happen.
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@AletheEkklesia @sparklingxnacho @JPuncut recitation of the Apostles Creed and reverence for the Eucharist, even though we do not believe it to be of a propitiatory nature. We do like our rock bands and smoke machines though. 🤣
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@AletheEkklesia @sparklingxnacho @JPuncut Maybe I will check it out one day. I myself was not raised Catholic, but I come from an Irish Catholic family. It is interesting to see the differences in worship. I do feel like the modern Evangelical movement does need to bring back to some tradition elements like the 1/2
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Ortho-Bros, I know your desperate to get a W but if you use the talmud to say a first century rabbi was praying to the dead you're going to make a fool out of yourself.
Ash accidentally misdated his source as the Rabbi he mentioned was in the THIRD century, not the first.
Additionally he confused the names,
"The tomb/cemetery quote in Ta’anit 16a is attributed to Rabbi Levi, an Amora from the 3rd century AD not the 1st century. That already leaves a significant time gap from the apostolic era.
The “Rabbi Hanina” mentioned there is not Rabbi Hanina ben Dosa from the 1st century. There were multiple rabbis named Hanina.
The 1st-century Rabbi Hanina would be Rabbi Hanina ben Dosa, who lived before the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 AD.
But Ta’anit 16a discusses Rabbi Hanina alongside Rabbi Levi bar Hama, a 3rd-century Amoraic rabbi. The Rabbi Hanina there is understood to be Rabbi Hanina bar Hama, a known contemporary of Rabbi Levi.
How could it be referring to the 1st-century Rabbi Hanina ben Dosa? Rabbi Hanina ben Dosa was not alive debating Rabbi Levi in the 3rd century.
If Rabbi Hanina ben Dosa died around the 1st century, and Rabbi Levi lived around 250–300 AD, they were separated by roughly 150–200 years.
So the passage is not referring to the 1st-century Rabbi Hanina ben Dosa; it is referring to the later Rabbi Hanina bar Hama from the 3rd century.
That means the argument fails as evidence for a 1st-century Jewish practice. The passage is a later Amoraic discussion, not evidence from the 1st century and not even from the 2nd century."
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@AletheEkklesia @sparklingxnacho @JPuncut I am a big fan of the Didache. I am glad they found the entire manuscript in 1873.
As a credobaptist I use it as a proof text against paedobaptism.
I also like how the Eucharist is an actual agape meal. Also, there is no consecration of the host.
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@JeradMac @sparklingxnacho @JPuncut Yes. The writings of the church fathers, canons of the ecumenical councils, and the Divine Liturgy services do serve as a “written” record of the apostolic oral traditions preserved in the church.
The biggest one is “the Didache”, but it speaks in more general terms
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@TerriGreenUSA Howerton admitted that he got advice from the other pastor. What is the big deal?
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Josh Howerton not only plagiarized a sermon, but he plagiarized the apology
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@AletheEkklesia @sparklingxnacho @JPuncut Do you have an official list of the dogmas and oral traditions of the EO church?
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@JeradMac @sparklingxnacho @JPuncut You’re bringing elements of Islam into Christianity. Christ never said “only follow the book”, He said to follow apostolic teachings AND scripture
“He who rejects you, rejects me”
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@BKalafut @ViaMediaVoice Vatican 2 confused a few things.
CCC teaches that Muslims worship the same God as Christians.
However Islam denies Jesus died on a cross and the Trinity.
They obviously worship something which is not YHWH.
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@ViaMediaVoice The issues present during the reformation were corrected on the Catholic side by 1563 or 1965, some of which (e.g. forensic atonement) were left uncorrected on the Protestant side. Meanwhile Protestantism accumulated more problems still; chapter-and-verse heremeneutic, OSAS.
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A serious problem I see are low-church / evangelicals reading basic Church history and realizing their Church is incompatible with the historic Church and them jumping straight to RCC or EO without having spent a single day reflecting on the issues present during the reformation.
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@garyandglendah1 @HwsEleutheroi I could see how she thought that. I mean look at indulgences.
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He seems to be avoiding the issue of the Sacrifice of the mass.
My mom who was a Catholic, actually thought she could pay for others sins when she suffered.
She wasn’t the most educated Catholic.
But she got this idea from the sacrifice of the mass, and imputed grace from saints which is Catholic doctrine.
-your devoted Arminian follower
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