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@JiujitsuOtter I think the belts hold more stratification in gi. In no gi its much harder to deal with the younger, athletic, or ex wrestlers. Throw a gi on most of them and its usually easy mode.

I didn’t realize how common this attitude was becoming in BJJ gyms Are there any colored belts here that like training but are over the whole belt system?

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@BjjTip I always bookend anything like this with a clear disclaimer that these are skills that have to be trained, like anything else.

Two-Hour Self-Defense Seminar I’ve always had mixed feelings about these seminars. Even if you give the best information, attendees don’t have enough time to develop any skills. It's better than nothing, I guess. What do you think?

I teach all classes at my Gym using the CLA, it realy bugs me when people say it probably isn't good for beginners. Over the past year or so, I have found that I am able to get a beginner playing the full game much quicker than when i just taught moves. They are playing guard, pinning, passing, and engaging in the standing position. Before, when I just showed technique, the 3-6 month white belt seemed much more lost in the chaos of a roll.

Not so much, but I’m sure it happens, usually when this sort of things happens. You find the big aggressive guy gasses in a few minutes from lake of efficiency, and the smaller guy ends up coming out on top. But, yea, like the examples I used above could beat up my blue belts. But my business partner is 145lbs with 16 years of grappling, and he dominates our Air Force guy easily.

@JiuJitsuStill @TonyChiaroscuro @Azariel91 Have you seen the other way around then? At your dojo? Cause I’ve seen a rugby guy with zero fight training overtook a very experienced guy (but small) at a MMA gym once. But then again, repetition of tackling likely had helped. Nonetheless, he was a beast.

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To answer, it depends, all factors play into the result. How trained? Trained in what? How big? how athletic? How explosive? What disposition? These and many other things come to play. I do know most people that have never trained before massively over-estimate their abilities and are actually shook when they get held down like a child by some 145lbs nerd who is obsessed with wrestling, mma, or Jiu Jitsu.

@JiuJitsuStill @TonyChiaroscuro @Azariel91 Interesting. So my question is: how much size and strength is too much for a 5’3 120lb trained fighter to overcome? It would be intriguing to see a professionally done experiment that quantifies extreme nature vs extreme nurture in a life or death fight.

I mean it was all male, but that’s basically what the first few UFC’s was, the rules weren’t very restrictive. So this experiment has pretty much been ran. All sizes, all different fighting styles. Grappling dominated. Also this idea that if it was life or death, it changes. I mean if weapons get involved, everything changes, but in pure hand to hand combat, the idea that the guy dominating in let’s say an mma context wouldn’t also dominate in life or death is kinda silly. It’s not like he cant gouge out eyes too, he’ll just do it from a much more dominant position.

I disagree, I see this experiment on a regular basis. I see guys that have no Idea how to regulate their aggression/strength try to app out and end up giving and posish and tapped by, women, teenagers, and small/weaker/unathletic guys who have a decent amount of training. Im not saying this happens 100%, but it does VERY often. Obviously an absolute beast is gonna be hard to handle. For example, Im 6 ft 225lbs, with maybe average or slightly above athletisicm, like decent in high school sports. About 5 years ago, I had a 2 time team captain division 1 defensive lineman start training under me. He is 6'2 285lbs, can do the splits. I could do whatever I wanted to him, hold him down against his will, tap him however. Now, he beats my ass on the regular. I have a new student start a few months ago, played DLine at Air Force, 6'4 270lbs. I can do whataver I want to him, he literally has no chance. My point being, size and strength matter, 100%, but a level of skill can overcome those attributes.

@JiuJitsuStill @TonyChiaroscuro @Azariel91 To be honest, this trained woman vs average guy scenario is actually hard to hypothesize. I suspect men instinctively create a mental blockage that makes them to subconsciously go easy on a woman—you could argue it’s underestimation.

My man, Have you ever been in a fully locked RNC from someone who actually knows how to do it? Im a 225lbs jiu jitsu black belt, earlier tonight a -100lbs 11 year old girl, tapped me with 2 chokes. Let be very clear: Yes, I let her work until she locked in the chokes. No, I didn't ape out when she did lock them (like this video, except she actually knows how to properly choke). I did try to fight out of them a tiny bit, but once she locked them I had like 5 secs before I forced to tap or I go unconcious. So, what we are saying here, is a fully grown women, who trains multiple times a week WITH dudes, has ZERO chance to choke a guy out if given the same oppurtunity.

Your point is completely different than the one in the video. In the video she is a 100 pound “trained” vs 180 pound (about avg) man The difference in strength is extreme if used. Do the examples in your gym are involving the same size /difference? In my experience similar sized women (big 180-200 pound) are not nearly close in strength to an equally trained men. It takes massive diff in training for a woman to match or surpass in strength an equal weight man. So if your real life example is women of similar size, with much better training ….and I add men holding always back… yes possible and seen… but that’s a 1% case or less Because irl - women are on avg less trained (or less women train for fighting than men) - women are on avg less fit and proportionally much weaker - women are on avg smaller

@MuskieDave54 @Azariel91 Yea man, there are so many women in this thread that are local to my small business, that has never sold sold womens self defense classes. Excellent observation.

@JiuJitsuStill @Azariel91 Guy trying to sell self-defense skills to women Believes his course works. I am totally surprised by this self-serving take. 🙄

@koolk8000 @nathan_wit22449 @Azariel91 All schools welcome every Friday night.

@JiuJitsuStill @nathan_wit22449 @Azariel91 you’re living in a fantasy world. I’m in FL and train , let me know when you want me to come and test out that dumpster theory of yours

Yea, fair enough, I saw this clip when it first came out and it just rubbed me the wrong way, Im not an incel thats saying there are no differences. But the way the guys are in the video are like no matter what we would just throw you off easily, is wrong, she is such a poor example of what an actual trained female is capable of. Most of these guys liking and sharing think just becasue they are male they can fight, when in reality, they walk into their local jiu jitsu or mma gym and they get absolutely dumpstered. Ive seen it 1000 times over the last decade or so. They are just as delusional as the girl in this video. They have no idea.

@JiuJitsuStill @Azariel91 Sure. And I am glad we all agree the exception, even those you put forward, PROVE the rule.

No, in the video, the women claims she is trained, which she isn't. She definitely doesn't know jiu jitsu. The guy is no training, just a normal dude. 1) In a properly applied rnc, the hands are hidden and its actually pretty hard to pry the hands off. 2) This is possble, but if hooks going in it is not that easy, and also, if the choke is in, he has 5-6 seconds to make that happen

@JiuJitsuStill @Azariel91 So you’re saying the only way they’d win if they were both trained and also in the perfect position from the start? And the guy cannot resist at all? Then she would win? Because: 1) bro can just pry her grip open 2) stand up, bend down and the RNC will open due to gravity

@SaltyTroonTears @Bearr2929 @Azariel91 You need to up your troll game bro, its pretty awful.

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@SaltyTroonTears @Bearr2929 @Azariel91 Welcome back! I see you like weightlifting. You guys are actually the most fun. Big strong tough guy. ❤️

@JiuJitsuStill @Bearr2929 @Azariel91 Already said all that was necessary. You’re objectively wrong, retarded, small and weak.

@SaltyTroonTears @Bearr2929 @Azariel91 you were more fun when you used your words. 😥

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@anandafeier @WashiingtonR @nathan_wit22449 @Azariel91 You aren’t entirely wrong, but what you are missing is jiu jitsu also teaches you how to get someone off of you and up off the ground, and how to deal with someone grabbing you, which happens very often in street fights.

All good my man, no worries. Only real shit here. I probably would never do a women’s self defense class. If I did, I would be very clear about the realities, and that fighting is a skill that has to be built just like anything else. Our women are throwing down along with the rest of us.

@SaltyTroonTears @Bearr2929 @Azariel91 I appreciate the engagement. Keep living in your own fantasy.

@JiuJitsuStill @Bearr2929 @Azariel91 You thought nothing. You’re a small, weak retard.