@ColdSnapDragon2 @chocolatedebris no you're right, i was too quick to try and defend when i should've asked if it was actually something that deserved defending, im sorry
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John
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John
@JohnToulet
ttttrans don't take whatever i say too seriously, sometimes i'm genuinely saying stuff i don't believe for little reason. just ask and i'll clarify
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@JohnToulet @chocolatedebris Seriously you don’t seem like a bad person; racism does exist in the LGBTQ+ comm and it should be called out.
Goose and the other VAs may not be bad, but the racists queers in replies absolutely are. Stand up for your siblings; we’re in this together
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THEY'RE ACTUALLY CALLING THE "my opinion on black people? uhm.. well trans rights?" IMAGE "QUEERPHOBIC" NOW???? WHY DO WHITES VICTIMIZE THEMSELVES??
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Maybe I’m the friend that’s too woke, but there’s something queerphobic about this image.
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@JohnToulet @chocolatedebris Sorry can’t find og artist twitter made me unfollow them
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@ColdSnapDragon2 @chocolatedebris hmm this may not be the most logical take though i do feel like the fact that it was just a part of a set makes me take a lot less issue with it. do you have the rest of the comic?
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@JohnToulet @chocolatedebris It is much older and it was part of a panel making fun of twitter user archetypes. Personally I think the shedtwt was is funnier
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@ColdSnapDragon2 @chocolatedebris again, i think people are perfectly fine in being upset with her. if she was cis and made transphobic comments a decade ago i don't think i would mind a whole lot but i'd also understand people who would, same for now. but was that image created for this? i feel like it's older
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@JohnToulet @chocolatedebris The TADC discourse is summarized as this image in that you don’t care about BIPOC.
If goose said transphobic things you wouldn’t be doing all this meatriding be fr
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@ColdSnapDragon2 @chocolatedebris i was unsure if you meant the tadc drama or the situation revolving around the image. if people want to be upset with the tadc creator then i have no problem with that, i don't think that comes from a place of queerphobia. it's this image that i think is queerphobic in nature.
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@JohnToulet @chocolatedebris This whole thing started from TADC, and yeah nonwhite trans people were using this sit to remind people that racism is still a massive problem jfc are you this obtuse?
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@JohnToulet @NoReferences here’s an example of one with what you could call “i’m not going to touch you” racism. responding to a black person calling out white queer men from stealing from black women, stating that it’s just homophobic to call that out, and a well worded response by a black queer person.
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Maybe I’m the friend that’s too woke, but there’s something queerphobic about this image.
(っ◔◡◔)っ 🐲 Cold Snapdragon 🐲 (MJ BIOPIC OUT 👑)@ColdSnapDragon2
@DinkDaBird Again your kind wouldn’t be acting like smartasses if she showed support for IsraeI or said transphobic shit Have a “fuck you, I hope that orange raisin takes away your rights” ❤️
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@thatguy__yeah @NoReferences i wasn't saying it didn't happen, that's what i meant when i said that my question wasn't a gotcha (though none of those are about trans people like my image was) but simply i wanted to see a comparison of the correct and incorrect way to do so.
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@JohnToulet @NoReferences here’s 3 i just pulled out from searching “black” and “homophobia”. it’s VERY much a thing talked about in the black community, you’re just not in it.
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@ColdSnapDragon2 @chocolatedebris can you elaborate on what you mean by this situation? i'm unsure what that's referring to
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@JohnToulet @chocolatedebris Most of the people mad in this situation are LGBTQ+ Black people, including trans people.
Do their voices not matter?
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@ColdSnapDragon2 @chocolatedebris if the original isn't queerphobic, then there's nothing wrong with this correct?
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@thatguy__yeah @NoReferences can i see examples of each? i don't mean this as a gotcha or anything, just do you have an example of a tweet where a black queer discussed it vs how a white queer discussed it incorrectly?
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@JohnToulet @NoReferences because the majority of it is directed towards black queers, who are already discussing it,
mind you, and ive never actually seen a white queer discuss it without being incredibly racist.
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@itafushipilledd tranny has always predominantly been used for trans women since its inception. if you have no problem with the original tweet then i don't see why you would have a problem with this one.
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@SaladTCG (ps i do not consider myself racist, i do not believe any race is inherently better or worse than any other and i am just as quick to criticize other races as well. above all else its the culture that america instills into every american thats the problem)
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@AnthonyM06 @BeigeFrequency @kunneak9o7 @hayasaka_aryan you can try
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@SaladTCG you can say i'm racist if you want, but who's fault is it that they're transphobic and homophobic? about 70% of them do not believe trans people are who they say they are. is it any surprise that trans people don't want to be friends with people who view them as their birth sex?
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“It’s actually black peoples fault that im racist” is crazy
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@SaladTCG it's a two way street yknow. i won't really blame anyone for prioritizing themselves, but 54% of black adults being essentially indifferent to trans issues isn't doing any favors for the bridge of friendship.
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i cannot believe i have to say that if you’re not a lesbian you can’t say dyke
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@brainstronaut @himeyachi troon? idk i never consider that one as a real slur so idk anything about its origins other than i don't think it existed ten years ago (could be wrong) though tranny has consistently since its inception referred to trans women until the modern anti trans panic
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@User446272828 @himeyachi nah i just like how john toulet sounds, idek what it means tbh
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@invincibat @wulfhildaa @BastetsPassion @beeisoveritbad @AisSkeet okay but that logic is a two-way street. there are plenty of communities where it isnt racialized and doesn't carry any offensive weight (id imagine more communities than not.) are those places just supposed to stop using it? are the blk lesbians in them supposed to change views?
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@wulfhildaa @BastetsPassion @beeisoveritbad @AisSkeet your community is not the only community ever. same w beatrice she's literally canadian and as you mentioned it's aave. black lesbian communities in the us, and specifically harlem, where i'm from and where it originated, still view it as racialized.
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it really diminishes accusations of racism if you follow them up with 'and you follow the guy teenagers have been harassing for a year because he calls out transmisogyny'
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@ultimopedazodeL @BeniMaslac @AnthonyM06 @BeigeFrequency @kunneak9o7 @hayasaka_aryan ah now i see what you mean, it's not the full 28%. though this applies to other stuff as well like the whole "despite only being 13% of the population black people commit" spiel.
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@JohnToulet @BeniMaslac @AnthonyM06 @BeigeFrequency @kunneak9o7 @hayasaka_aryan Only a fraction of white men commit such crimes. So only a fraction of that 28% commit 75% of incest crimes.
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