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@JohnnyS91869

Katılım Nisan 2024
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@taymescryria @Twenty1st_Pilot Except, he gave sozin a warning, and that warning worked. That’s the part people keep forgetting is that the world was at peace for like 90% of roku’s time as avatar other than what is all together a very minor thing in comparison to what sozin later had planned.
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@Twenty1st_Pilot his one job as the avatar was to protect people and bring peace to the world he could have imprisoned him or anything as a grown man who mastered every element instead of his twelve year old reincarnation having to pull insane feats to save the world from what roku allowed
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@chrismckeever @Stenogabue @MrBeast Others is because in this scenario you literally can’t. Everyone is given an anonymous vote. You have no ability to convince others of what choice to make. You can only make your own and hope the majority chose blue so no one at all dies
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@chrismckeever @Stenogabue @MrBeast It’s not creating a moral dilemma at all, it IS one. The entire question is would you choose a guarantee of your own safety over the chance of everyone’s safety. And the original question is about EVERYONE. And the reason i did not answer the original question about telling-
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MrBeast@MrBeast·
Everyone on earth takes a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press? BE HONEST.
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@MaccusNormann I think the difference is reading also became something that became more necessary throughout history meanwhile bending as a whole has begun to become less of a necessity in LOK
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Maccus Normann@MaccusNormann·
I remember back when barely 1% of the population could read, and it was almost exclusively Noblemen and the Clergy who were smart and skilled enough to learn how. You expect me to believe that in the modern day, suddenly 90% of people can read? It's just bad writing.
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Shocker@JohnnyS91869·
@cobaco123 @Stenogabue @MrBeast The thing with free will is that you have to accept all the consequences of your actions: - Blue has to accept the risk of death but also that if they succeed no one at all dies. - Red has to accept the risk of killing everyone who picked blue, but they will not die.
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cobaco@cobaco123·
"The only person who is guaranteed to live by YOUR decision to pick red is you" my life is the only one I can control, and the only one I should control (not being a tyrant, and free will being a thing) "But red adds to the guarantee those who pick blue die" if you think blue dying is a guarantee, then picking it is just plain dumb "I’m not saying there death is 100% your fault" it is 0% my fault they had the choice for guaranteed survival available to them they choose to gamble their lives anyway gambling comes with a risk of loosing "the collective of the blue’s fate is on those who Chose red" nope, that denies the reality of free will I didn't make them gamble their lives they did that on their own (out of the best intentions perhaps, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions)
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Shocker@JohnnyS91869·
@Brizksie The absolute series is more about the characters not having a lot of there core character molding things. So maybe absolute nolan left. Absolute debbie died? Mark just kinda grew up a normal kid instead of the son of a hero. How that’d make him i wouldn’t know.
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Shocker@JohnnyS91869·
@cobaco123 @Stenogabue @MrBeast The only person who is guaranteed to live by YOUR decision to pick red is you. But red adds to the guarantee those who pick blue die. I’m not saying there death is 100% your fault what happens to the individual is 100% on them but the collective of the blue’s fate is on those who
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Shocker@JohnnyS91869·
@cobaco123 @Stenogabue @MrBeast In all of your scenarios you’ve framed the red button as inaction, as just letting the people who picked blue die, but it’s not, picking red is saying you want them to die rather than you. It is ultimately still a decision and not just letting something happen.
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cobaco@cobaco123·
"And I believe everyone should live, which of course means I’m going to have to make risks for other people’s sake." and you are free to pick blue if that works out for you great if not... oh well, life goes on "where people choose to kill others because that’s what picking red is" disgree I respect free will if you choose to risk dying, you're allowed to if you jump out of an areoplane with a parachute that has a 50% chance of failure, I'll advise you not to do it, but I'm not joining you, nor stopping you forcefully
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Shocker@JohnnyS91869·
@ReaperII7 @Verratus_Speaks @RealPostFolder For helping that outcome win. The drunk is of course responsible for drinking too much, but you can always press the blue button and help them get a cab, or ask the bartender to cut them off. Meanwhile people who let them keep going are the ones who press the red button
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Shocker@JohnnyS91869·
@ReaperII7 @Verratus_Speaks @RealPostFolder Well yes, at least while at the bar, same for the buttons, you aren’t at fault for the overall situation but your vote contributes to the outcome. If you pick blue and it fails, you are at fault for your death and your death alone. If you pick red and it wins, you are at fault-
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Shocker@JohnnyS91869·
@cobaco123 @Stenogabue @MrBeast And I believe everyone should live, which of course means I’m going to have to make risks for other people’s sake. I’d rather personally die than live in world where people choose to kill others because that’s what picking red is.
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cobaco@cobaco123·
@JohnnyS91869 @Stenogabue @MrBeast nobody voted to kill them people simply voted - to live - to not give their loved ones a reason to risk their lives I believe in free will that unfortunately means some people will do stupid things in this scenario that likely kills them
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cobaco@cobaco123·
@JohnnyS91869 @Stenogabue @MrBeast "You can choose to save others at no cost to yourself" a 50% percent chance of dying is not 'at no cost to myself' everyone has the option to not need saving they could just take it at no cost to anyone that did not choose the cost
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natsuki64@yurddlc2·
Why do red voters think its perfectly reasonable for all 8 billion people to pick red buts its unreasonable for half of that to pick blue
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Shocker@JohnnyS91869·
@cobaco123 @Stenogabue @MrBeast In this hypothetical you can save others AND yourself, because blue CAN win, and in every poll it has. You can choose to save others at no cost to yourself so long as other people aren’t selfishly choosing themselves over potential millions.
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cobaco@cobaco123·
"That may be there choice, or it may be them additionally trying to be empathetic" them trying to be empathetic may be the reason for their choice, but that doesn't change the fact that it IS their choice "No matter what someone is picking blue" someone is always killing themselves off it's impossible to idiot-proof the world that's no reason to join the idiots "if you pick red you’re choosing to ensure they die" if I could I'd tell them "don't press blue, you're likely to die" but free will is a thing, and I'm not a tyrant if they choose blue anyway, that's on them "picking blue where you’re choosing to stop putting yourself first" first rule of live-guarding: don't let the guy you're saving pull you down yes you save yourself first, then and only then do you look at what you can do for others
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Nome@nome_inadequado·
@DaVis31887111 @AletaValiant so you are saying you would jump of a bridge to try and save a suicidal person? yeah, sure
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Shocker@JohnnyS91869·
@cobaco123 @Stenogabue @MrBeast That may be there choice, or it may be them additionally trying to be empathetic. No matter what someone is picking blue. You’re not just choosing to live if you pick red you’re choosing to ensure they die vs picking blue where you’re choosing to stop putting yourself first.
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cobaco@cobaco123·
"And you are guaranteeing there death with red." they are absolutely have the option to choose red too ... so no I'm not guaranteeing their death ... I'm merely guaranteeing my life by not adding another life to the 'needs saving' pile them choosing to gamble with their lives is entirely their own stupid choice
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Shocker@JohnnyS91869·
@ReaperII7 @Verratus_Speaks @RealPostFolder Yes, well at least for while they are in your establishment, if they die in your establishment that’s on you cor not judging if they’ve had enough alcohol yet.
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Shocker@JohnnyS91869·
@cobaco123 @Stenogabue @MrBeast I’m not expecting you to do anything, but I’m just saying making the choice to save yourself is selfish. Like by definition. And you are guaranteeing there death with red.
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cobaco@cobaco123·
"you chose to save yourself and let potential billions die just because you valued your life over there’s" they chose that risk all by themselves I just chose not to join them in taking that risk what is selfish is expecting me to risk my life in order to safe you from risks you needlessly took
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