@jess_ann_pin Well that makes sense. If he could really see himself falling for you then he would want to protect himself via saying no to a FWB, fairly rare man these days.
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Johnny Stone
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Johnny Stone
@JohnnyXStone
if you follow the story long enough, you eventually reach the conclusion.
Katılım Haziran 2024
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@JohnnyXStone Dude what? I meant that I was into him and wanting to date but then some stuff happened and I told him I couldn’t date anyone but hoped we could still bang and he said no
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Sure people are misleading each other in college — probably mostly men misleading women.
Every man I banged in college, even on the first date, became my boyfriend unless I chose another man and was not intended as a hook up except in one case where I needed to practice using a vibrator with a random man and felt awkward after and refused to give him my number.
My hook ups were not just hook ups. They were exploratory for the purpose of getting new boyfriends. Because I was a “Stacy,” I got whatever I wanted. On top of this, no one ever said, “Hey this is just casual.”
This leads me to believe that the men who just hook up over and over in college without settling down are actually refusing to do what the women want and are not really having sex with good faith or honest, upfront intentions.
It’s possible to have reformed, but at the very least any man who got 100+ bodies in college most likely was a bad person who hurt women.
Johnny Stone@JohnnyXStone
If you’re a stud, especially in your college years you can easily pass 100+ and no one is misleading each other in college. When you move to a new city, especially in your early 20s, again, pretty easy to do 20-80. However, with Are We Dating the Same Guy groups and Tea app this has been keboshed and very hard to do unless you’re at the bar solo weekly doing 1 night stands. Any man on Hinge, Work, Church etc can get looked up by any woman any time and the hoe-fax will show.
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@jess_ann_pin You canceled because he was being unserious? That demonstrates agency and a boundary. Respectable
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Plenty of those women liked me too! I’m not anti-charming! Many women came and went and were happy for the ride but didn’t see us going anywhere long term. Simply the reality of being attractive on a dating app. Today, I wouldn’t swipe right on someone i didn’t think I could spend some money on getting to know. I don’t message women on Hinge and ask if they want to come over without having their number and IG, that’s what 10 years in this market will do to you. It’s not worth it anymore when you have a good career and reputation to risk it on a hookup and getting blasted on the Tea App or wherever.
My hookup days from apps are long over
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@JohnnyXStone Yeah I was trying to bang him but I also liked him
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@jess_ann_pin If you’re asking to go over to a guy’s at 2am wouldn’t he interpret that as you initiating sex?
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@JohnnyXStone Once a guy asked me on a date but I canceled and then asked to come over to his place at 2 am but I liked him
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@jess_ann_pin Is this them talking to you or you talking to them? I’m confused by the use of “they” in the first sentence
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@jess_ann_pin Proves my point? I’m sure in another life Jessica we would have matched and let this exact scenario play out. Many such cases from my past life.
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@jess_ann_pin If a tinder match is coming over at 10pm because I asked and forgoing requesting a date that’s on her. No woman seriously thinks a booty call is an effort at a step towards a serious relationship.
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@JohnnyXStone I’m not talking about half committing and love bombing, if your intentions are casual, you should tell women upfront. The default is serious and you should be trying to save people’s feelings
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Yeah it’s shitty to half-commit and love bomb. I don’t do that. I told anyone I’ve ever been with seriously that if at any point I’m not their person to let me know and leave. A breakup is 10min or less.
I’m sure most men don’t do this since their access to an eligible pool of bachelorettes is limited so they love bomb and pull out manipulation to hold on.
Ironically being a successful bachelor requires you intuit women well and communicate with them appropriately.
Most men would rather women end things than themselves.
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@JohnnyXStone When I wanted casual, I would tell men upfront and I never expressed affection at all yet they would still get upset if I didn’t want to date.
But men feel no obligation at all to even clarify?
Don’t you see what a horrible person you have to be?
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What? Being a valuable commodity makes me a bad guy? Hoeflation exists because of women trying to compete for attention from higher-status guys and in college an athlete is a higher-status guy. I had options don’t hate me for exercising them.
Incels exist because they are men who don’t take accountability for their lack of access to the dating market because they choose to be fat and unattractive both financially and physically.
Incels being in 0 demand has lowered the supply of eligible bachelors thus women increasing their marketing of themselves to the eligible bachelors. It’s simply economics. More men taking accountability for their shitty lives would fix this.
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@JohnnyXStone Has any woman ever told her that you misled her or that you should have been more upfront with your intentions?
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Men date in college to get exclusive or recurring sexual access and many men will forego mid sex to date a woman they perceive as higher value than their roster. That can turn into a full relationship and perhaps even marriage.
If a man doesn’t care about retaining exclusive access he’s going to have sex with you then not going to schedule a follow up date.
I dated women I hooked up with because the sex was awesome and I’d prefer 2nds and 3rds and move to investing more in keeping her coming back.
Other women not so much.
I believe the evolutionary psychology says the more sex you have with 1 woman the more likely a kid is to get conceived which boosts the man and woman’s bonding capability. 1 time is not enough seriously for that to happen.
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Why did you right swipe so many of these women that you would not have approached or courted?
When I got on Tinder, I did not think, “Oh men have no standards and will fuck everyone.”
I thought, “Oh wow! So many more men than I thought find me hot!” I even matched with my biggest crush from high school who claimed he’d had a crush on me the whole time.
When I met with my first Tinder date, one of his friend’s dates asked, “Why are you here? You’re too hot for this guy.” I had picked him because he was funny. 😂
Ironically the hottest man I matched with was the one who wanted to date me even though I only wanted fwbs at that time.
I was 27. How would women only in college figure out that a right swipe did not signify genuine interest?
When I was in college, I definitely believed wanting to hook up with me meant interest in dating me, and I did date who I wanted. I was not at all wary of “oh he just wants a hook up.” Maybe with a couple guys I only made out with. 🤔
Johnny Stone@JohnnyXStone
I mean that’s fair, I’m not talking about the average girl or guy, I’m talking about the guys who can get to at the very least 100+. I went to a very large state school in California, was a top athlete, Tinder was new. Suddenly women had private access to message and shoot their shot with athletes since the “match” system took the “does he find me attractive” question out and the barrier to entry was destroyed. Would I have approached or courted half the girls I slept with in college in person? Likely no. To high a barrier for an uncertain outcome. When we would match on Tinder, these women are not naive, they knew they were going to sleep with an attractive guy at the very least. On their way to my apartment were they thinking I could be their boyfriend or future husband? Perhaps, but at the very least they were okay having sex without my commitment, and perhaps were using sex to secure my commitment. Either way, they showed up. So is that me misleading them? Are they not responsible or accountable for agreeing to forgo a date for Netflix and Chill? Could they have been misleading me having sex with me expecting commitment without communicating that? I don’t reject your lived experience, I’m sure that is the case for a majority of men and women. However, as a man who is successful with women am I coercing, manipulating, or misleading them in any way? No. However, now that I’m 28, real job, with a professional reputation, in a big city, would I feel that way if I’m on dating on an app now? Yes I would, so I agree with you, you’re likely misleading a woman if you’re on a dating app and spending time and money to go on actual dates. If I were to secure another 100 it couldn’t be through apps, work, or social group but transient places like bars, hotels, or clubs.
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@hashjenni Who knew ragebaiting was this fun??? Do women always have this primal urge to respond???
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@hashjenni What really upsets women more is seeing men happy without being in a relationship or married. That ruins all the happiness in the moment of their singleness.
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@belle379 @hashjenni A man whining is bitchy. We got that adjective from women
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@angryvet34 @hashjenni Women are always the victim. It’s the 3rd law of Hoethermal Dynamics
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@JohnnyXStone @hashjenni If only that was actual the truth, maybe you men wouldn’t kill yourselves each other and us so much if you actually were.
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@RaraSensei @hashjenni You can take your don’t care attitude to the cats
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@JohnnyXStone @hashjenni Nope. We don’t care. And that drives you wild.
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If you keep getting approached by unqualified men you’re either 1) not attractive enough to get the attention from better looking or qualified men 2) overestimating your value since the market always sets the price.
If your standards are high that’s good but realize high standards have high opportunity costs. Live with the consequence and don’t complain about it.
Anything other than that is ignoring reality which is a recipe for long term misery
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@JohnnyXStone @hashjenni Tbh women rejecting tons of men is proof women don't really care if they remain single, as long as they stop disturbing women with their unwanted proposals that's fine.
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@JohnnyXStone @hashjenni You severely overestimate how much women think about men.
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It’s called living a life and having access to the internet. Broad enough to rage bait and true enough to get a response. If society weren’t broken I’m sure we’d all be happier with a committed partner.
Plenty of women out here calling me an incel for stating an observation from my own lived experience i see everywhere online. Generalization my friend.
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@JohnnyXStone @hashjenni You've done a massive, wide research project on this, I presume? Because that's a pretty broad statement to make.
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@Tiffany65595920 @hashjenni It’s the attractive ones they expect to be approaching them choosing not to!
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@JohnnyXStone @hashjenni Women don’t approach men so why would they care if you’re happy . Women only focus on men they find attractive why would they care about a losers being happy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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