@Jon_Wicked1@PublicEnemiesHQ No need to apologize. I’m going by your logic. The point is, it’s all cooperation. You grabbing my wrist and me grabbing yours is cooperation regardless of the outcome. Jade hitting steps regardless of bleeding intentionally or not is still cooperative
@xdeathcursex@PublicEnemiesHQ I’m sorry you don’t get it, It’s not full. In a real fight you can literally throw someone flying. By the arm, the shirt, or hair. There just aren’t ring ropes to contend with. Reminds me of when Jade got whipped into the stairs and started bleeding, or was that full cooperation?
@MrDrProf2@rajmuker I think it was JBL that said it best, "if people say you're a good heel then your NOT a good heel". Real hate is what a true heel delivers. Go-away heat dosen't exsist. You are either liked or hated or you aren't doing your job.
@Jon_Wicked1@rajmuker That's not heat, that's go-away heat. You must've thought Constable Corbin was the best heel of all time. If a heel took a shit in your cereal, you wouldn't say "oh, he's working me hard here" now, would you?
@Lizlawson07 Of course they don’t. They cornered themselves when they had him beat Brock. Who does he lose to now? Who is as big a star for him to wrestle that can lose to him?
@FBSpidey@PublicEnemiesHQ You fail to understand. These moves have set ups. They are when you have beat your opponent up, they are tired, hurt, they need a moment recover. That’s wrestling. Ray usual trips them into the second rope hurting and stunning his opponent then kicks them for example.
@Jon_Wicked1@PublicEnemiesHQ Another IWC retard. The AA requires your opp to literally lay there on your shoulders. Destroyer require your opp to jump, 619 req your opp to lay on ropes. Any moonsault. Most finishers aren’t slams and require cooperation
@Jon_Wicked1@pissedofchef@ninjaskrzypek@PublicEnemiesHQ The Undertaker could not lift up most wrestlers for a choke slam if they opted to straight up sandbag him.
You don't actually pick someone up by their neck or chest, they jump and put their weight on your shoulder.
Big guys do it because it is a spectacle when they do.
@pissedofchef@Severed_Ties_@PublicEnemiesHQ If you lock your opponents head between your knees and jump over their back they will follow. Obviously this could really hurt someone but it can be done.
@Jon_Wicked1@Severed_Ties_@PublicEnemiesHQ The person taking a destroyer jumps to get the full rotation. The person taking a powerbomb uses the upper body to come up with the move. If they go limp and sandbag the person giving the move can’t actually give them the move
@pissedofchef@ninjaskrzypek@PublicEnemiesHQ Sure but it can be done without it right? That’s why it was a move for the big guys to do. The big guys don’t need help. This is what I’m talking about the deconstructing of wrestling. Anyone can do a choke slam now.
@Severed_Ties_@PublicEnemiesHQ A destroyer doesn’t need cooperation think about it. Also to be fair it’s a cutter. Not RKO. Sure Randy has had “help” but it’s a good wrestling move. Also a powerbomb doesn’t need cooperation period. It just does when Oba does it. That’s not the original intention for these.
@Jon_Wicked1@PublicEnemiesHQ If you think you can pull off a destroyer with no help you’re insane… Randy’s best RKOs were mostly because of the other person not him. fall from grace is a pop up PowerBomb where the other person has to jump on obas shoulders. 😂😂
@TMitch8988@PublicEnemiesHQ Yes. Athletically impressive but it exposes the business. Which is bad for it. We all know wrestling is “fake”. The problem is these companies aren’t treating it as “real”.
@Jon_Wicked1@PublicEnemiesHQ Fall from grace
OG cutter
RKO
Any destroyer variation (pop rox panama sunrise)
End of days
Styles clash
Just a few finishers that requires full cooperation from the opponent
L take
@ninjaskrzypek@PublicEnemiesHQ Does the choke slam require “full cooperation? Also who does the choke slam? It isn’t small guys lifting the big ones, and if it is that’s garbage too.
@xdeathcursex@PublicEnemiesHQ Well if you get whipped to the ropes you have a few options (which all have been done before in a match) bounce back, slide out, stop running. Which is wrestling. It’s a fight and sometimes one thing is better than the other because the goal is to “win”.
My heart is fine. The video circulating of me asking for prayers is from a decade ago. It’s click bait. I Love the love and concern but I’m totally ok!