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Many years ago, I left the religion in which I was raised—Jehovah’s Witnesses—because I could no longer reconcile its teachings with Scripture. Many of their fundamental beliefs appeared to rely on spiritualizing the words of God in order to fit their established doctrines.
The consequences were disastrous. I rejected the Bible and God entirely. It was only twenty years later that I realized the world we isn't better. I therefore decided to give the words of God a second chance. I began reading the Bible on my own and soon realized that it truly is the Word of God. I attended a Baptist Evangelical Church. Last year, I was baptized a second time after being born again.
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🚨‼️No, the rapture is not a lie, and you do not help anyone by calling clear Bible doctrine false just because you do not believe it. If you want people to read the Bible for themselves, then let the Bible speak. “Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air” (1 Thessalonians 4:17). That is not an “escape fantasy.” That is a plain statement from Scripture. You can argue over timing if you want, but you cannot honestly call it a lie without calling Paul a liar too.
The real problem here is not that people listen to pastors. The real problem is that people like you read something in the text you do not like, and instead of submitting to it, you erase it. Then you turn around and accuse everyone else of not reading the Bible. That is backwards. If you actually read the Book carefully, you would see that the catching up of believers is in the text, not invented by preachers.
What I keep seeing from this crowd is the same pattern over and over. You flatten prophecy, you remove distinctions, you throw out the rapture, you blur Israel and the Church, and then you act like you have finally “deprogrammed” everybody. But all you have really done is cut pieces out of the Bible until it agrees with your system. That is not rightly dividing the word of truth (2 Timothy 2:15). That is editing the Book to fit your preference.
So do not lecture people about reading the Bible for themselves while dismissing clear Scripture as a lie. The sad part is not that people listen to pastors. The sad part is that some men read plain Bible doctrine and call it false because it interferes with what they already decided to believe. At that point, the issue is no longer ignorance. The issue is authority. Either the Book corrects you, or you try to correct the Book.
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@forestfrank Nope. Rapture is a lie, an escape that isn’t coming. It’s sad, and the saddest part is, people listen to pastors instead of reading the Bible for themselves. If people did, they wouldn’t be duped by the false rapture doctrine.
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@TNTJohn1717 When I started reading the Bible, I noticed the exact same thing and made the exact same connections regarding Cain. Later, I spoke with my pastor, and he told me that while this isn't the common belief, it could still be what happened.
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that follows is restorative and ordering. I believe Genesis 1 gives a broader creation statement that includes male and female together, while Genesis 2 reveals the later formation of Adam and the covenant order of Eden. I believe the seed conflict is real. I believe Cain’s fear points beyond the narrow answers men usually offer. And I believe a lot of Christians have been too scared of being mocked to consider that the opening chapters of Genesis may be far larger than they were taught.
Now maybe some men will hear that and call it heresy. They can do what they want. I have no need to impress them. My concern is whether the Bible is being allowed to speak. If it is, then the opening of Genesis is not weakened by these questions. It is magnified by them. It becomes richer, deeper, more fearful, more glorious, and more alive. And if that makes a man slow down and reread the first chapters of his Bible with fresh eyes and a trembling heart, then good. Maybe that is exactly what needed to happen.
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Before Adam - Reading Genesis Literally Without Apology
Main Passage: Genesis 1:1-2
The longer I read my Bible, the less interested I am in protecting men’s traditions and the more interested I am in letting the Book say what it says. That is where a lot of people get nervous. They do not mind you reading the Bible literally until you actually do it. Then suddenly the same crowd that talks about believing the word of God starts reaching for brakes, qualifiers, experts, and commentaries to explain away what is sitting right there in black and white. I have no interest in that game. If Genesis says God created man male and female, then I believe He created them male and female. If Genesis later says there was not a man to till the ground and then gives the special formation of Adam, I am not going to pretend those details do not matter just because someone in a seminary got uncomfortable with the order.
I know full well that saying this kind of thing will make some people itch. They would rather I stay inside the little fence they were handed by academia, tradition, or the safest brand of conservative commentary. But I am past that point. After reading through the Bible again and again and again, there comes a point where you stop forcing the text to fit the chart and you start forcing the chart to bow to the text. That is where I am. I am not claiming to know every last detail. I am not pretending I can answer every question a man might ask about the world before Adam, the condition of the earth in Genesis 1:2, or the precise nature of those outside Eden. But I am saying there is more in those opening chapters than most men have the courage to admit.
What I am laying out here is not some cheap attempt to be different for the sake of being different. It is an attempt to take Genesis seriously in the order it is written. I believe there was something before the Adamic world. I believe Genesis 1:2 describes judgment, not pristine creation. I believe the recreation or restoration that follows opens the way for the Adamic kingdom scene. I believe Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 are not simply the same event retold in a harmless little close-up, but that real distinctions are being made for a reason. And I believe Cain’s fear, Cain’s departure, and Cain’s world only make more sense when we stop acting like Adam’s garden was the sum total of all reality on the earth.
1. In the Beginning Means More Than Men Want It to Mean
“In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth” (Genesis 1:1). That is not a weak verse. That is not a rough draft. That is not God trying and failing. That is a perfect statement. God created the heaven and the earth. Then the very next verse says, “And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep” (Genesis 1:2). Now any honest reader ought to stop right there and ask himself a simple question. If God created the heaven and the earth, and Isaiah later says, “he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited” (Isaiah 45:18), then why is the earth in Genesis 1:2 sitting there in darkness, covered in the deep, and described in terms that sound like ruin instead of order?
That question matters because the average answer usually sounds like this: “Well, that is just how creation began, raw and unfinished.” But that answer is too quick, too convenient, and too neat. The verse does not sound like an unfinished masterpiece sitting on the easel. It sounds like something devastated. Darkness on the face of the deep is not how God describes the triumph of creation elsewhere. The Lord is associated with light, order, life, distinction, and beauty. When you see darkness, deep waters, desolation, and emptiness, you are not looking at language that naturally invites you to think everything is proceeding in some calm and simple way. You are looking at aftermath.
Then the Spirit of God moves upon the face of the waters, and God begins speaking light, division, order, fruitfulness,

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🚨 Here is the full 40 minutes of my crew and I exposing California fraud, Minnesota was big but California is even bigger... We uncovered over $170,000,000 in fraud as these fraudsters live in luxury with no consequences. Like it and share it, the fraud must STOP.
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Bill C-9, the Combatting Hate Act, will be voted on by Members of Parliament today or tomorrow. This bill opens the door to Catholic priests, Orthodox rabbis, Evangelical pastors, Sikh granthis, and other religious leaders, as well as ordinary Canadian citizens, being prosecuted for hate speech simply for quoting sacred texts. Call your MP today to stop this bill before it is too late.
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@MaximeBernier Sérieusement ? Tu sais bien que le régime théocratique islamique ne respectera jamais aucune entente et continuera à agir sournoisement sur l'Occident et toutes les communautés judéo-chrétiennes comme il le fait depuis 1979.
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Trump is launching another reckless war to instigate a regime change.
He used to understand that such military interventions more often than not have disastrous consequences for both the population of the targeted country and for Americans. And to denounce the warmongers in both the Republican and Democratic parties.
But the neocon imperialists have hijacked his government. And they are putting out the same ridiculous propaganda to justify this war that George W. Bush did when he invaded Iraq in 2003.
I cannot support the US for once again bombing a country that poses no threat to them. They act, as they have for decades, like imperialist bullies who believe they have the right to do whatever they want, anywhere in the world.
Canada must remain neutral and stay out of this and other foreign conflicts that do not directly concern us, and, as always, put Canada’s interests first.
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