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@ArcRaidersInfo There are more votes in favor of a PvE mode, but in the comments, the players who speak up the most to complain about the potential addition of an optional mode one that wouldn’t even concern them are the PvPvE players. It’s clear who the vocal minority is.

Arc Raiders needs a PVE only mode.

@ronjour_ @MicahhParsons11 If it only concerns PvE players, where’s the problem? PvPvE players would still play in a PvPvE version dedicated to them. And all additions to the game would be the same in both modes, just with more parameters to adjust.

@MicahhParsons11 I feel like a PvE only is cool but to have it be a permanent gamemode would kinda go against the whole purpose of the game

Biggest issue is pc players have a greater movement advantage than controllers. It should have a console-only version. Yeah, you can take cross-play off, but you still can’t play with your PS5 friends. Lastly , it’s impossible to farm with rats! A PVE mode strictly for arc or farm, no PvP, will do wonders!

@b1tnut @harmsedition @ARCRaidersMedia no

@harmsedition @ARCRaidersMedia They do have separate modes. Die enough to pvp without shooting back and viola, super friendly pve mode

Taeseok Jang, head of PUBG Studios, says ARC Raiders has proven that extraction shooters have huge potential, and that's exactly why they're building Black Budget. ARC Raiders has already sold over 14 million copies and hit nearly 1 million concurrent players, making it one of the biggest live service shooter launches in recent memory. With battle royale dominating for nearly a decade, it looks like extraction shooters might finally be ready to challenge that throne.

@Ramzy02678726 @FinalBattll3 @ARCRaidersGame PvE players don’t defend themselves, because it would immediately send them into PvP lobbies.

@FinalBattll3 @ARCRaidersGame The main issue is that Embark for whatever reason, fails to create a reasonable PvP balance. PvE players must be able to defend themselves against, this hasn't been the case since release! TTK is far too short, weapon damage in PvP is too high, healing is too slow etc.

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@mitchael_scells @ARCRaidersGame It’s not the developers’ fault, it’s the decision-makers who are only trying to sell skins without really listening to the community.

@ARCRaidersGame Maybe if the developers weren't so brain-dead they'd listen and give us a pce only server but nobody they have the brain power of a dead fucking fish and thats insulting to fish

Heads up Raider, a free kit won't get you very far 😱 Squad up, gear up, and put your skills to the test in the ARC Operation: Close Scrutiny.

@MrPuzzleHeadd @FinalBattll3 @ARCRaidersGame At the game’s release, players cooperated more since most of them were PvE players, so PvP players didn’t act too boldly when facing 10 PvE raiders cooperating against all threats, including PvP.

@FinalBattll3 @ARCRaidersGame U guys are insufferable, u do know that ABMM was added later on in the game? So what did u do when all the lobbies were always mixed at the beginning?

@JoeTrapani @ArcRaidersInfo Indeed, but to a lesser extent. Players in these lobbies are mostly PvE players, so the level of threat is very low. But we’ll see over time how these lobbies evolve and how long it will take before PvE players leave the game due to the absence of a PvE mode.

@Kallhem29 @ArcRaidersInfo The threat of pvp is always present. Even in a friendly lobby you could potentially get shot. It makes the game more dynamic and will make it more long lasting.

@joetrapani @ArcRaidersInfo The only PvP threat comes from rats and PvPvE players who go back to PvP after finishing their quests in cooperation with PvE players. The PvP threat is so minimal in these lobbies that they could be compared to an unseparated PvE mode.

@Kallhem29 @ArcRaidersInfo There is always the threat of pvp.

@BloodShot_CS @LegioXXAlpha @Velion PVP players are unable to understand that PVE players have a different vision of the game than they do.

@LegioXXAlpha @Velion PvE definitely created a very good money stream for BSG. PvP players need to relax about PvE. They’re so hostile towards PvE players. Not everything in life is about being better at PvP. I just want to play Tarkov on my own. I have no interest in the PvP aspect anymore.

This is very important. Prestige should be on PVE mode. Don't be a pussy and vote anything else because PVE Players deserve to enjoy the ability to prestige and the rewards also!

@joetrapani @ArcRaidersInfo Friendly lobbies already exist and allow players to do everything without much risk of PVP. A PVE mode with a separate inventory from the PVPVE mode wouldn’t have this problem.

@ArcRaidersInfo Sissy mode. The lifespan would be significantly shorter if they add a PvE mode. It will be so much easier to do all of the quests and expeditions without the threat of PvP. Grow a pair.

@Gevany31427941 @vr_mama @MarathonGG_ Tarkov’s player base was never divided by PvE. On the contrary, the mode created by modders even encouraged new players to buy the game for the modded PvE. Then the studio sold an official PvE mode and gained even more players. Without a PvE mode, Tarkov would no longer exist.

@vr_mama @MarathonGG_ that split the player base for tarkov and will more than likely do the same here

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@ExpatBrat_ PvP requires a lot of meta balancing and fixing exploit bugs. Otherwise, players who are often victims of those exploiting loopholes eventually give up. Nothing is simple for the developers.

PVE support often comes with an increased pressure for devs to continue to deliver new content, missions, story and experiences. PVP will often simply require 2 players to act in a slightly unpredictable way without a devs hand being involved. There is a big difference.

Instead of developing & deepening the PVP experience in Dune & boosting re-playability. Dune devs continued to water down the experience for PVE locked players. The PVP players left long ago. The PVE players followed, even after a year of concessions. Now they will try Instancing

@UnloyalSheep @HMBohemond That’s exactly why extraction shooters are a niche genre. The most frustrated PvPvE players eventually give up. And those who remain end up playing mostly PvP, like in a battle royale.

@HMBohemond Pvp players in these type of games don't want PVP, they just want to fight ungeared pve people, otherwise they'd be playing games with actual pvp as its core or its balanced properly.

>be Funcom >release Dune Awakening >force PVP for the entire Deep Desert endgame zone >PVP players are a statistical minority >casual players and PVEers leave the game because the PVP sucks and just incentivizes ganking with ornithopters >walk back PVP to only half the endgame zone >it helps a little >poll players on what to do about PVP >vast majority wants PVE Deep Desert >add it in upcoming patch >PVP Deep Desert will be a separate instance with higher resource yields >PVPers complain >"ALL THE PEOPLE WHO LEFT WERE PVPERS BECAUSE HALF THE DEEP DESERT WAS MADE PVE!" PVPers in MMOs genuinely deserve less.

@KKackt34582 Bad idea. That would force PvE players to play PvP. Players need to be separated so they can find the experience they’re looking for. Otherwise, only PvPvE players will remain, and the game will be left dying. Example: Marathon.

This also means trials and projects that want you to do or obtain something in PvE or PvP as well.

People often argue about splitting the playerbase in Arc Raiders if a PvE mode is made but there are ways to prevent splitting and create "dipping" back and forth from modes. Incentivize loot that makes sense to be earned in a PvE mode only and visa versa with PvP Incentive mode.

@Elchorizo06 @ArcRaidersInfo The two modes would be completely separate if a PvE mode were added. Why insist on mixing the inventory between both modes? Two different characters for two different modes.

@ArcRaidersInfo I feel like a separate mode would be cool but to keep things spicy divide the loot so certain things only drop in pvpve servers and certain things drop only in pve servers.

@JayburTV @MJR_Plays @CAMIKAZE78 If the PvE mode doesn’t interest you, keep playing PvPvE. PvE players simply don’t want to play with you.

@MJR_Plays @CAMIKAZE78 Doesn't seem comical, how would a pve mode improve the experience of Arc Raiders? BTW, I'm not the best player and I did alot, I do not see any sense in a pve mode in a pvpve game

If you buy a PvPvE game and are shocked when people PvP… then I’m sorry to say you are playing the wrong game. The AGBMM is what has turned me off from even trying Arc Raiders. The whole premise of these games is the chance interaction and stories that produces. Mechanics like AGBMM just makes it an artificial experience by comparison. It also produces really crappy mentalities like the one on display here.

@SoupTimeNA @Kotaku That’s why they’re asking for a PvE mode. The advantage would be that PvPvE would be more balanced and wouldn’t offer advantages like those in friendly lobbies where PvP becomes practically absent.

@Kallhem29 @Kotaku their expectation is to not get shot in a game where PvP cannot be disabled, which is silly.

A viral Arc Raiders lobby clip showing a PvE player threatening a PvP player for killing him in the game has folks debating why those who wish to avoid PvP would play a game in which it's prominently featured. kotaku.com/arc-raiders-pv…

@Astro_Bon3s @CortesMoka @aimkeyx Both ignorant and hypocritical. PvPvE extraction shooters are first designed around a PvE foundation, and then PvP is added to balance the game. But if you play in lobbies without PvP, why go after PvE players?

@Kallhem29 @CortesMoka @aimkeyx I genuinely think you’ve never heard of or played any extraction shooters. They are PvP games with PvE elements. Why do you think there’s more PvP items in the game than PvE ones? If this wasn’t a PvP game, why is there PvP lobbies? For the record I play PvE btw, not pvp

How to Save ARC Raiders #arcraiders 1. Manually ban cheaters targeting streamers (stream sniping) 2. Remove red raids and any dark modes that aren’t night mode 3. Reduce trigger grenade damage 4. Increase trigger grenade crafting cost 5. Reduce trigger grenade throw distance 6. Eventually add the Emperor boss 7. Better communication with Devs 8. Make loot tier POIs matter / add higher tier zones with better loot 9. Rework night raids / make the loot worth it (no free kits) 10. Rework mantling / add separate bind for mantle 11. Add more weapon mods similar to the Anvil Splitter 12. Add a blocklist system (limit 5–10 players) to avoid certain lobbies 13. Introduce high-stakes map conditions with higher loot requirements 14. Stop recycling/reskinning ARC enemies 15. Add an “Appear Offline” option 16. Nerf Survivor augment or buff other augments for balance 17. Rework stash (increase stack sizes, e.g. gun parts from 10 → 20) 18. Add preset loadouts to save time in the lobby 19. Make crafting more accessible/easier overall 20. Add more bosses 21. Introduce custom games and replay system 22. Remove the 3-strike system 23. Fix the quick-use bug 24. Increase barricade cost (currently too cheap) 25. Buff legendary weapons 26. Fix the shoulder bug (present since launch) 27. Reduce teams per match or improve spawn system (especially duos) 28. Add new healing items 29. Fix movement skills 30. Add more PvP-focused skills 31. Improve the shop and give money more value 32. Add new traders 33. Remove gun smoke visual clutter 34. Fix audio bug on Stella 35. Fix ARC spawning inside walls on Stella 36. Remove shield sound when players enter render distance 37. Add ability to drag downed/dead bodies 38. Improve overall lighting on Stella 39. Add higher-tier loot (rarer items like trinkets) and buff their value 40. Buff keycard rooms and allow keys to be purchased from traders 41. Fix duping issues 42. Allow players to open the map while downed 43. Add stronger anti–stream snipe measures 44. Allow dual keybind inputs (currently limited to one) 45. Increase hatch key cost (nerf Survivor augment) 46. Show kills and full stats post-match 47. Add trader leveling system to give money real purpose 48. Add more mobility items 49. Revert movement nerfs 50. Add a social hub where players can walk around, interact, and see others 51. Add more knockout animations and weapon skins 52. Add in-game shield repair options (via skills/items) 53. Improve cosmetic quality/team output 54. Allow augment changes mid-game (non–free kit only) 55. Fix defibrillators (currently buggy) 56. Add a squads mode 57. Buff Bettina 58. Add brightness settings 59. Add more attachments overall 60. Improve crosshair customization 61. Rework trials to make them worth completing 62. Allow rearranging of workbench layout 63. Allow practice range queue with teammates 64. Add a new rarity tier above gold (e.g. red tier) 65. Add dedicated PvP modes (2v2, 3v3, arena) 66. Introduce a paid battle pass (cosmetics) 67. Buff heavy shields 68. Increase FOV limits 69. Add more customization options (e.g. pink blood on all servers) 70. Add auto-run feature 71. Revert Wolf Pack nerf 72. Improve buying system (reduce spam-clicking + holding E) 73. Lower/tune menu audio 74. Add more low-tier weapons 75. Expand PvP support and systems (separate PvE/PvP matchmaking)

@not4eels I presented facts, and you didn’t provide any arguments in return. So there is no debate if you don’t actually debate. I’m still waiting for your arguments.

@Kallhem29 Sure thing kimosabi, you sure did come in with "facts and logic". Ya sure did😂 Anything else to say before I go ahead and relieve myself of ya?

Fact: You don't get to complain about pvp in extraction shooters, it is literally one of the most intrinsic values of their core gameplay loop. Arc Raiders pve only players are the same level of unbearable as Dead By Daylight players. Stay away from the wider gaming community.