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The Kelly’s
@KellySCC
Passionate about lots of things. Grateful for the good & the lessons from the less good. Trying to leave the place better than when we found it.
Queensland, Australia Katılım Nisan 2012
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@KaylaTheFifth @Iamivy05 Again, the major diff is that, from birth, even those individuals will make progress with particular developmental skills, though it may be minimal for those with comorbid conditions. Hence why i noted nuance & ASD as a spectrum. It’s just my opinion, not a point. We can disagree
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@grahamchatterl2 @sciantificnew We might be referring to different things. I’ve been referring specifically to the teacher & context in the original post.
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@KellySCC @sciantificnew Are you saying you've never come across teachers complaining about taking work home?
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I’m with this teacher. We always use our own time to mark work, so exactly when we decide to fit that time in around our private lives is entirely up to us and quite frankly no one else’s business!
Amber Apinions@fvckerysprinkle
So my daughter had a test and asked her teacher if she was going to grade them over the weekend so she could know her grade on Monday. Her teachers reply “I’m not spending my weekend grading papers.” Okay then.. moving forward my children will not spending their after school hours doing hours of homework. They will not spending their weekend working on projects. They can do that during school time then.
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@KaylaTheFifth @Iamivy05 By comparison, a baby born without working lower limbs, a person whose spinal nerves are severed or who has lost lower limbs will very likely never walk, for eg. There’s no room for relative skill growth.
Further nuance exists due to the spectrum of function within ASD
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@KaylaTheFifth @Iamivy05 No, they’re not and I’m not suggesting that. I’m saying level of functioning fluctuates. I’m saying developmental disabilities, by nature, have potential for skill growth. I’m saying that interventions can improve functioning. It can also worsen. Do you disagree?
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@grahamchatterl2 @sciantificnew I may have missed something, sorry, because I can’t see in the original post where the teacher complained. The response by the teacher was simply relating to work hours and work conditions. No complaint or comparison.
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@KellySCC @sciantificnew Taking work home is complained about with great regularity, (rightly so in many cases)
But if those people complaining are expecting children to work from home
Then they are being hypocritical, what would you call it?
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@grahamchatterl2 @sciantificnew I’ll let you be. I can see your point of view but I simply don’t agree. I think the issue is that we have a different view of our expectations of teachers vs students. Teachers are there to do a professional job. Students are there to learn. They have different sets of rules.
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@KellySCC @sciantificnew Hypocrisy is complaining about having to do something, whilst simultaneously demanding someone else do the same thing
I don't know what is complicated or outrageous about pointing this out
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@grahamchatterl2 @sciantificnew For one of the people in the exchange it’s their literal job for which they’re paid (their professional role) not a general choice. And there was no complaining in the initial exchange. The only complaining is by a third party on SM. It’s not a good look but it’s not hypocrisy
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@KellySCC @sciantificnew And I was making a point more generally that complaining about working from home, whilst then directing someone else to work from home is a bit hypocritical
The professionals/consumers/customers stuff is irrelevant
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@grahamchatterl2 @sciantificnew Hypocrisy can happen in a school environment & can impact significantly on teacher perception & parent-teacher/student-teacher cohesion but performing the role you’re paid to do within the time you’re paid to do it is not it.
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@KellySCC @sciantificnew It seems like you just want to argue semantics
But children aren't professionals either
There is also a big difference between a request and a direction
And directing children to do something whilst complaining about doing it ourselves, is hypocrisy
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@grahamchatterl2 @sciantificnew Not really necessary to throw snark in there. Again, I’m comparing the role of professionals rather than schools & businesses. You didn’t answer a very direct question & instead chose to be rude.
I can see you’re not interested in honest or kind discussion. It’s ok to disagree.
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@KellySCC @sciantificnew Okay, I'll remember to come to you rather than the dictionary in the future
The comparison between schools and businesses still doesn't work
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@corrinnbarnett @hannahcenters Also it’s heaps of fun when attending friends and non-attending friends chat in a group chat to update the non-attending friends about what’s happening.
There’s more examples but I’ll stop now
lol
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@KellySCC @hannahcenters On their phones together? How do you do that lol
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I will forever and always scoff at the argument that “homeschooled kids aren’t socialized.” Last night my 12YO went on a bus trip. He was the only kid without a phone, and he was the outsider because of that. He actually IS socialized and wanted to chat and hang out with his friends. Instead, they were all on their phones. So tell me who has socialization problems again??? It certainly isn’t the homeschooled kids.
Nickitruesdell@nickitruesdell
In the 21st century, homeschooling is a loose term that basically means “not at government school.” It can mean: Every day at home Co-ops Tutors Hybrid academies Private classes Online classes Forest school Unschool Road school Dual credit college courses Sports teams Apprenticeships And of course, an eclectic mix of all of the above. That’s why we LOL when someone is worried about socialization.
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@corrinnbarnett @hannahcenters Another example is you take turns showing your friends your saved shorts or fave vids and discuss them.
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@corrinnbarnett @hannahcenters Another example is you pop a filter app on and take photos of and with each other while interacting, smiling and laughing together.
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@corrinnbarnett @hannahcenters One example is you all play the same game at the same time; linked in, competing against or with each other.
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@grahamchatterl2 @sciantificnew Well, not literally. They may be better referred to as a consumer, user or client depending on the service being offered & the type of transactional relationship that exists.
Customer most often refers to a person who pays a monetary amount for a good or service from a vendor.
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@KellySCC @sciantificnew Someone receiving a good or service is literally the definition of a customer
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@grahamchatterl2 @sciantificnew Note above: “one party is providing a service; one party is receiving a service; professionals”. Is that not true?
It certainly doesn’t necessitate the language you’ve introduced (“employees”, “customers”)
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@KellySCC @sciantificnew Children aren't employees or customers, so it really doesn't work as a comparison
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@wildcat_of @Iamivy05 I would never compare myself or any other family member with a developmental disorder (who has the ability to function at times & who can build skills with support) to my very disabled aunt who never had the chance to walk again
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@wildcat_of @Iamivy05 Motive is responding directly to the topic. If I were discussing a different topic I would focus differently. In this instance, I’m thinking of my dearly loved aunt who never walked again after a debilitating accident, not due to a developmental disorder. Diff experiences exist
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@grahamchatterl2 @sciantificnew Comparing two professionals in their workplaces is valid
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@KellySCC @sciantificnew Key word there is request
It's a really weird example, there's no comparison between a business and a school
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