KyrCynic

@scofieldxxtr @Dr_tedddd @Nob0dymyname Exactly! A normal military contingent is what there is on them and it means that the islands are not demilitarized. Additionally this applies to only 4 islands with no military restrictions whatsoever to the rest of the islands.

@KyrCynic @Dr_tedddd @Nob0dymyname You retarded cunt cant read what urself posted. " Greek military forces in the said islands will be limited to the NORMAL CONTINGENT

Greece’s position at the UN is clear: international law must be respected. The term “Turkish Straits” contradicts the Montreux Convention, which defines the Straits as a unified legal regime. Yet once again, Turkey appears to disregard agreements it has signed.

@Dr_tedddd @Nob0dymyname I'm not sure which Lausanne treaty you have read, but the one at the UN treaty repository explicitly says that on 4 islands in the Aegean a normal military contingent is allowed with no military restrictions to the rest of the islands.

@Nob0dymyname It seems someone needs a history lesson on the Treaty of Lausanne. Article 13 wasn't written for decoration; it explicitly forbids the militarization of Aegean islands. Ignoring these treaties doesn't change the facts—it just violates the law

@bjkerd76 @Nostre171552 @GulsunarEng Muslims are from outer space?

@Nostre171552 @GulsunarEng We do not deny that they are Greek; Greece claims that the people in Western Thrace came from outer space.

Why does calling the straits within Turkey ‘the Turkish Straits’ bother Greece? Does Greece have some secret ambitions regarding those straits?

@LucasNeillgs @Glauk_Athinaze @GulsunarEng Indeed, it would be a waste of time to try to find them because there are no such provisions in Lausanne treaty. Apparently, between you and me I am the one who has actually read the treaty.

@KyrCynic @Glauk_Athinaze @GulsunarEng Hahaha now it’s what provisions , is it not ? I am not going to waste my time to educate you. Go read treaties or ask your government a copy of it. If they can’t provide , come visit someone will educate you for sure.

@turkic_facts @Imperator_Lex BTW, Sicily is not a fringe island of Italy, neither is Sardinia. They both have their own straight baselines.

@turkic_facts @Imperator_Lex Alexy, is that you? It's been a while that I have not seen your nonsense.

FACTS; #Greece, with its EEZ agreement with Italy in 2020, accepted the 1977 borders and refuted its own claims. The #Greek side has accepted coordinates that grant limited influence to Greek islands such as Diapontian (70%) and Strofades (32%), located above Corfu.

@turkic_facts @Imperator_Lex Greece is indeed not an archipelagic state. Yet nowhere in UNCLOS it says that islands of not archipelagic or island states do not have EEZ under any circumstances. On the contrary, it says that islands that are not rocks have EEZ as any other land territory.

@Imperator_Lex Learn the difference between island states and mainland states that own islands, then comment. #Greece is not an "archipelago state"! (UNCLOS 46) Therefore, the islands on the Turkish side of the median line do not have exclusive economic zone rights!

@LucasNeillgs @Glauk_Athinaze @GulsunarEng What demilitarization provisions in the Treaty of Lausanne? 🤔

@Glauk_Athinaze @GulsunarEng Oh, I see you follow the law. Is that selective, or do you apply it consistently? What about the demilitarization provisions in the Treaty of Lausanne? Or is that ignored? Maybe u are here just for propaganda purposes and not for the rule of law 🤡

@MustafaKartalo8 @M0rkRom @poirazis Είναι τα Ελληνικά χωρικά ύδατα 40νμ?

@KyrCynic @M0rkRom @poirazis Αν ισραηλινά πολεμικά πλοία παρέμβουν στον στολίσκο Sumud χωρίς άδεια στα ελληνικά χωρικά ύδατα, τότε η Ελλάδα δεν είναι ανεξάρτητη χώρα. Τελεία και παύλα.

Ε άμα εμείς μαζεύουμε ισραηλινά όπλα παντού λογικό είναι να κάνουν ανάλογες κινήσεις και οι άλλοι Εμείς το αρχίσαμε

@MustafaKartalo8 @M0rkRom @poirazis I guess you did that at the same time that I was administrator of NASA.

@KyrCynic @M0rkRom @poirazis Tarih okudum üniversiyede benim tezimdi sikdir git şimdi

@MetehanALPASL10 @FionaMullenCY Issuing more threats proves my point really.

@KyrCynic @FionaMullenCY Türkiye ne İran’dır nede başka bir ülke. Türkiye 1000 yıllık devlet geleneği olan, ne zaman ne diyeceğini gayet iyi bilir. Söz etkili olmaz ise, sahada etkisini daha sert gösterir. Tavsiyem; İsrail haddini bilsin, boyundan büyük laflar etmesin!

All rhetoric relating to Turkey and Israel, Turkey and Cyprus, Turkey and the EU, and Turkey and Greece is worsening. Maybe it is time to revive my Cyprus problem risk index. No one bloody bought it so I gave up. The risks didn’t go away though. #cyprob

@onurustunel @JDSwanson @baronahmet @ictinus_x No it doesn't. It is what it is whether you like it or not. Lausanne treaty is not the "one side of the legal framework" of the law of the Sea, as you seem to allude. These are completely different things.

@KyrCynic @JDSwanson @baronahmet @ictinus_x Then I reiterate, the treaty of Lausanne needs to be amended as well. You cannot progress one side of the legal framework and leave another 100 years ago. Although you claim that it is not explicitly stated they are contextually bound with each other.

If you ask Turkey what “peace” in the Aegean looks like, the answer is stark: it begins with Greece making concessions. In practice, the Turkish vision of “peace” entails Greek islands left undefended opposite a heavily militarised Turkish coastline and stripped of full territorial waters, so that Turkish warships and jets can operate freely around in what is, by geography and international law, a Greek island sea. It means Greece accepting a permanently occupied Cyprus and giving up exclusive rights in its own seas. In short, for Turkey, “peace” would mean Greece becoming smaller, weaker, and quieter-while Turkey steadily expands its influence. At its core, this is not a technical dispute over legal interpretation - it is Turkish irredentism. ❌Turkey simply refuses to recognise where its borders end and Greece’s begin. This dynamic reveals the true nature of the relationship: not that of a difficult neighbour, but of a revisionist aggressor that still harbours imperial ambitions over territory and waters that do not belong to it. These borders are not ambiguous, nor are they recent. They were settled in the aftermath of the Treaty of Lausanne, which definitively established the modern boundaries between Greece and Turkey. Under that settlement, Turkey secured full sovereignty over Anatolia, while Greece retained its islands in the Aegean. Until Turkey demonstrably abandons these claims, respects the sovereignty and integrity of Greek territory, it will always be seen as a security threat that has to be contained. 🔵Greece harbours no desire for war or confrontation. Its position is clear, lawful, and purely defensive: it seeks only to uphold its sovereignty within borders and rights already recognised under international law -nothing more, nothing less. 🔴But that is not enough. Deterrence cannot remain passive or declaratory. It must be decisive and credible. Greek foreign policy has to send an unambiguous message: any violation of its sovereignty will not just be blocked-it will be met with consequences that impose real, strategic loss. Those who choose escalation must understand that they risk not only failure, but the loss of what they already hold. This is the only language bullies understand.

@onurustunel @JDSwanson @baronahmet @ictinus_x High seas and territorial waters were not the subject of Lausanne treaty. What applies for them is another legal framework which indeed allows for a coastal state to turn international waters to it's own territorial waters at it's will.

@onurustunel @JDSwanson @baronahmet @ictinus_x There is no such right as to anchor your military vessels in one of the seas on which you have what you call a huge coast. Never was, never will be. You have the right to do that in your own territorial waters and to what is international waters at that given time.

@onurustunel @JDSwanson @baronahmet @ictinus_x If it was not agreed, it is not binding, nor the subject of the treaty. And yes it is doable and right since international law not only permits it but provides for it.

@KyrCynic @JDSwanson @baronahmet @ictinus_x I know, that is what China doing in east China sea and everyone is laughing at them. That is why I deliberately gave that example and asked you to get a grip. Just because it is not agreed does not make it doable or right.

@onurustunel @JDSwanson @baronahmet @ictinus_x It says nothing about territorial waters and particularly nothing about Greece or the Aegean. Do you want to say that UK, Japan and Italy being coastal states and signatories to the treaty should remain at 3 miles of territorial waters?

@onurustunel @JDSwanson @baronahmet @ictinus_x You spoke of "The high seas as they were in 1922". Nowhere in the treaty says that the world should stand still as it was in 1922. Art 6 says that islands lying within 3 miles of the coastal state are included within it's frontiers.

@baronahmet @onurustunel @JDSwanson @ictinus_x There is no uncertainty in UNCLOS about territorial waters. Nothing of what you mention affects them. That's another clue that you don't know what you are talking about.

@KyrCynic @onurustunel @JDSwanson @ictinus_x There's no certainty about the 12-mile limit in the UNCLOS, which you love so much. There's the issue of semi-enclosed waters, coastline length, mainland rights, etc. Why are you ignoring all of that?

@onurustunel @JDSwanson @baronahmet @ictinus_x Where can this be found in the treaty? I cannot find it.

@KyrCynic @JDSwanson @baronahmet @ictinus_x No, it does not work that way. The high seas as they were in 1922. Not in any given moment. The agreements does not change as you stated. When you subtract something from a whole the remaining also becomes fixed.

@onurustunel @JDSwanson @baronahmet @ictinus_x Once again you show that you have no clue about international law and particularly maritime law. Artificial islands do not have rights to maritime zones nor any state has any right to construct them in areas outside of their jurisdiction.

@KyrCynic @JDSwanson @baronahmet @ictinus_x OK then we can construct artificial islands in the highseas and claim them in that case. It is not against the treaty. Or maybe we can enlarge the a few islands that we have ? Get a grip please.