Hypocrisy

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@RetroBitX @tarragon111 @inmyidolera Like, I genuinely don't get your premise, and you're refusing to elaborate. And if I don't get it, and you don't get it, then what am I supposed to get out of this 'cept for CERTAIN PEOPLE using this shitshow as grounds for racism and xenophobia?

@RetroBitX @tarragon111 @inmyidolera Like, is it so hard to, well, idk, petition for Toby to add something similar to tModLoader onto Steam? Who knows, he might even do so himself once he finishes Deltarune, as he did say he plans to review his stance on localization and seek a method.

The crazy thing in the original response is that Toby literally says "Maybe I should try a different approach" in regards to translations but everyone skipped over that because deltarune fans cannot fucking read.

@ELS28__ @Bloodthirstyleo @yogurtmunchies @RyDawgE_ So, if you already did, and a >good< fan translation already exists, then.... What's the point of this shitshow? We're y'all just bored and decided to stir up the nest or what?

@Lith_Chlor @Bloodthirstyleo @yogurtmunchies @RyDawgE_ We already did, that's why we know it's not hard to make it official

>Bitching that Toby won't use a translator >Uses translator >Translator fucks up

@RetroBitX @tarragon111 @inmyidolera Jokes are jokes, but actual hatred isn't acceptable, is what I meant.

@Lith_Chlor @tarragon111 @inmyidolera What I mean is that is common for us to joke with that.

@RetroBitX @tarragon111 @inmyidolera -practice methinks, feel free to disagree. And I'm talking about both sides, btw. This shouldn't serve as any sort of "justification" for any sort of racism or xenophobia on EITHER side.

@RetroBitX @tarragon111 @inmyidolera A joke is fine, yet the things I've seen are not jokes. Review bombing is the lowest of the low when it comes to tactits, esp. when you already got an answer. And the wave of insults and racist remarks made towards Toby and other people that simply want to discuss it are bad-

@RetroBitX @tarragon111 @inmyidolera You were? Where exactly, I don't see it. Do you see it? Because I don't. As I told one other LatAm person I was arguing with: We're not asking you to stay quiet, we're asking you to be reasonable. Big difference.

@Lith_Chlor @tarragon111 @inmyidolera Dude I was reasonable for 10 years, give me a break

@Manguito_wtf @Coffy_Cat @onettbrat Seriously? That's your only reply? "And?" You know what, I won't even argue anymore, it's obviously a difference in culture, you just seem to lack event he most basic of basics when it comes to acting decent. Good day to you, thank you for the discussion.

@Lith_Chlor @Coffy_Cat @onettbrat Y? Lol

this drama should have ended days ago, but this is out of control. for the people saying “it’s just a joke”, review-bombing anything is not a joke, when you’re actively trying to ruin the credibility of something.

@Coffy_Cat @Manguito_wtf @onettbrat Yeah, they don't even realize they have no right to accessibility. It's a privilege. A really nice one, that, well, I understand wanting, but still one nonetheless.

@Lith_Chlor @Manguito_wtf @onettbrat Accessibility in art isn't even a right. It's a privilege. I swear, these people.

@Manguito_wtf @Coffy_Cat @onettbrat That isn't nearly expressive enough to facilitate either Undertale or Deltarune. ok okok okokok ok ok.

@Lith_Chlor @Coffy_Cat @onettbrat no pedimos localización, tenemos una variante del español totalmente neutral hecha para facilitar el acceso pq no nos incluyen en absolutamente

@Manguito_wtf @Coffy_Cat @onettbrat You want recognition? Earn it properly.

@Manguito_wtf @Coffy_Cat @onettbrat "womp womp" is crazy. Guess you aren't getting the localization, womp womp.

@Manguito_wtf @Coffy_Cat @onettbrat And then it wouldn't be Undertale, OR Deltarune. What's to mention that there is no single "neutral spanish", and that in most cases it's not as highly expressive and incredibly artificial.

@Lith_Chlor @Coffy_Cat @onettbrat Ni hace falta una localización, toda la latam se conforma con español neutro PQ ESTAMOS TAN ACOSTUMBRADOS QUE HEMOS HECHO UNA VARIANTE DEL IDIOMA PARA SER INCLUIDOS

@RetroBitX @tarragon111 @inmyidolera So then, why show nothing but bile and hatred instead of being reasonable people and simply asking Toby for it, or petitioning? Or were you so insurmountably blinded by hatred and anger that you simply... didn't think about it?

@Lith_Chlor @tarragon111 @inmyidolera Because we now have Undertale on consoles. And even for PC it would be nice to have no need to download an extra patch. I don’t need it, but I know people that does.

@Manguito_wtf @Coffy_Cat @onettbrat You know what, hope you don't mind the swearing. You don't want "accessibility" you want control. Nobody is asking you to stay quiet puta madre, we're telling you to act like humans, not animals out for blood, pendejo.

@Lith_Chlor @Coffy_Cat @onettbrat CONFORMISTAS si constantemente son ignorados y dejados de lado QUEJENSE. Los que no estamos conformes y queremos accesibilidad no tenemos pq callarnos

@Manguito_wtf @Coffy_Cat @onettbrat My friends are not "conformists", they're reasonable people that don't expect the entire world to revolve around them. If you want respect, you must earn it. And by pouring out nothing but hatred you find no respect, you only find more anger. It's the logical response.

@Lith_Chlor @Coffy_Cat @onettbrat Entonces tus amigos son conformistas, no es nuestro problema

@Manguito_wtf @Coffy_Cat @onettbrat What more could he do? Give it out for free? Or the concerto? He doesn't control that, either. He simply allows it, he doesn't plan out where they'll go. Beyond that fact, this is among the first ones outside of Japan.

@Manguito_wtf @Coffy_Cat @onettbrat And how exactly do you expect Toby to, idk, control Fangamer? Let's start with that, yeah? The merch prices in LatAm countries is honestly atrocious, and that much I agree with, but... Toby can't control it. He said as much, and that he's trying his best to lower it.

@RetroBitX @tarragon111 @inmyidolera And so, you already have a good translation, yet you want an official one? What for? Explain your case properly, not "we want it" but "why we want it".

@Lith_Chlor @tarragon111 @inmyidolera Because they are not professionals, that’s why. Specially old translations, some of them were made by a single fan, maybe two. But then we have teams like DeltaArg(i think), they even dubbed Tenna’s voice and the actor has a similar voice range, is so good.